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beevul

(12,194 posts)
17. Imagine that.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:56 PM
Feb 2016
The majority of Americans favor reasonable gun control, better background checks, and restrictions on particular weapons and ammunition.


Until you show them your view of "reasonable", then the support you speak of evaporates. Maybe it was just a mirage.

However, what is "cultist" about the gun nut crowd (here and elsewhere) is the view that your "rights" are absolute above the interests and safety of the public.


Ahh, the politics of misrepresentation and projection. We do not see a conflict between our rights and the interests and safety of the public. The only people that see that, are people like you. You're misrepresenting our position, projecting yours on to us. And you got caught. Tut tut...

If pressed, most of you would admit it's a good idea we don't let people open carry RPGs or drive to work in M1A tanks or own their own howitzers.


If we strip away the hyperbole here, we're left with the 'howitzer' comment. Guess what genius: We DO let people own their own howitzers, and tanks, and RPGs. You haven't the foggiest idea of what the facts even are. Its a shame you bothered to preach without them, but then, cultists do that. Are you projecting again too?

Those are all arms you don't have a right to keep or bear in the US.


Bzzt. Wrong again.

So right there, unless you're one of the few who actually does think that would be OK, you favor restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms.


Spoken as if theres a sizable number of people, not to mention posters on DU, who actually believe in no restrictions. Strawman much?

Where you draw the line is a matter of debate. When I call you cultists, it is to point out you are uninterested in the debate, uninterested in any sort of compromise or conceding any validity to the points of your perceived opposition.


Oh this is rich, Oh so rich.

If we are the ones uninterested in debate, why is it always people on your side of the argument running away:

Done here, I can't argue with cultists.


You are aware of who authored that projectionist screed right before running away, I trust?

We have an anti-gun poster here who posts google dumps in multiples daily, who is the host of the anti-gun group, who essentially never debates anything. Like I said, its basically always the anti-gun types that run away. I'll find you 20 examples of anti-gun posters running from the argument for every one you can find of a pro-gun poster doing the same. So yeah, another misrepresentation.

And "compromise"? Please. We know how anti-gun folks feel about compromise. Just because your head is buried in the sand, doesn't mean everyone elses is. Here we go, an example of how anti-gunners actually feel about real compromise:

Bloomberg gun-safety group has a new target: Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172186338


I noticed your absence in that thread. Pop on over and leave a comment, wont you? I'm game to discuss it. I won't run away. Are you? Will you?

As to the validity of the points of the perceived opposition, when I see some validity, I'll point it out. So far I haven't seen much of any. Penis jokes and the accusation of "nra talking points" don't constitute validity, just so you're aware.

At some point when the bodies are stacked high enough this nation will turn its fury on the NRA and its death cult supporters.


Spoken like a true lifelong hunter and gun owner.





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Do you and a couple of comedic actors speak for the American people? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #3
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Win like the the CO state senate and Gov McAuliffe or win like the NY SAFE Act Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #5
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You make statements of baseless faith then engage in epitomological closure Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #7
I've often read that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2016 #9
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You keep claiming we're uninterested in debate but you're the one who states Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #16
Imagine that. beevul Feb 2016 #17
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you do know tanks Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #22
Run away, run away, that's what you you best when confronted by facts. LOL. GGJohn Feb 2016 #8
You almost got a hide Travis_0004 Feb 2016 #11
Thanks for the results, GGJohn Feb 2016 #12
The great lawyer from the north lives! ileus Feb 2016 #14
all I can say Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #21
Pssst, Polls aren't votes and your imaginary friends don't vote DonP Feb 2016 #10
what weapons and what ammo? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #20
Our local anti-2A nutters believe they speak for the American people. Just like Bloomberg. ileus Feb 2016 #13
are you talking about fellow DU members? Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #19
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For some reason I bet TS has more youtube views than all anti's combined. ileus Feb 2016 #23
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