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Gun Control & RKBA

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Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 05:58 PM Dec 2015

The costs and consequences of gun control [View all]

As I detailed in articles in early November, federal proposals and recently-enacted state laws about “universal background checks” are a bait-and-switch. Instead of applying to only the private sale of firearms, they also impose onerous, impractical restrictions on short-term loans and returns. These have enormously destructive effects on safety training and self-defense, on safe storage, and on informal target shooting. Further, they indirectly impose handgun prohibition on adults aged 18 to 20.

Instead of ineffective measures which do much more harm than good, the better approach is laws which can enhance public safety while respecting individual rights. Pretend “gun free zones” (which are enforced only by signage, rather than by metal detectors) have been proven to be magnets for psychopaths, and they should be repealed. The Cato papers lists some of the instances in which armed persons have thwarted a criminal intent on mass murder.

By far the single most effective step we could take to reduce violent crime would be to greatly increase spending to help the severely mentally ill. The biggest crime reduction would be fewer crimes against the mentally ill, since they are more vulnerable than the general population, and are victimized at a much higher rate. The mass murderers in Tucson and Aurora could have been committed for observation and treatment under existing state laws, with due process protections, but people who knew about the danger failed to take the appropriate steps. More broadly, there are many persons with severe mental illness who voluntarily seek temporary hospitalization, but who are turned away due to insufficient treatment capacity. Greater spending to help the mentally ill today will more than pay for itself in the long run, by reducing criminal justice and incarceration costs. (The mental health issue is addressed in greater detail in my forthcoming article in Howard Law Journal.)


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/12/01/the-costs-and-consequences-of-gun-control/

This is an excellent article that I thought you all might enjoy.

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pretty one sided if you ask me - every murder committed by a gun is not patsimp Dec 2015 #1
No, but 67% of "gun deaths" are suicides. N/t Kang Colby Dec 2015 #2
not the 20 or so from today in California patsimp Dec 2015 #3
Oh, do you know what they were already? DonP Dec 2015 #4
and what will the Gun Lovers do once they know the exact numbers of innocent people killed? patsimp Dec 2015 #5
What'll they do? They'll go back to laughing at gun control groups DonP Dec 2015 #6
and continue your support for terrorists patsimp Dec 2015 #7
How the hell does calling someone a terrorist get left here? MaggieD Dec 2015 #8
That lot *really* don't like it when their obvious political inefficacy is noted friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #10
I guess some people believe in the first amendment patsimp Dec 2015 #14
"I did not call anyone here a terrorist" You falsely claimed a DUer supported terrorism friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #15
i was responding to maggied's "How the hell does calling someone a terrorist get left here?" patsimp Dec 2015 #16
You're dodging the issue. You libeled another DUer, and are now waffling about it friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #20
and you're making stuff up. But that's what the gun lobby does too. patsimp Dec 2015 #21
What have I made up? It is incontrovertable that you libeled DonP friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #32
scary that people who are so easily offended have access to guns patsimp Dec 2015 #35
What's really scary is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #36
More scary is that false accusations such as yours are tolerated here friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #37
The first amendment restricts only government. beevul Dec 2015 #18
let's see if this doesn't go over your head patsimp Dec 2015 #24
It would help if you stated something which were true. beevul Dec 2015 #25
like i said about going over your head patsimp Dec 2015 #27
Nope. beevul Dec 2015 #29
IMO, there is special dispensation given to the prohibition crowd... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #9
Feh. DonP is a far better Democrat (and DUer) than the likes of you could ever hope to be friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #11
on what basis do you think i don't GOTV? patsimp Dec 2015 #17
I asked what you have done about it. DonP has, and has written about it at DU. Also: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #19
the 'likes of you', nothing libelous there or aggressive patsimp Dec 2015 #22
And yet again you dodged a direct question... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #33
you seem to be very good at asking but never answering anything or addressing anything patsimp Dec 2015 #34
"(I)f you believe that gun control will not stop..." Please keep your words out of my mouth friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #38
like i said you can't answer a question patsimp Dec 2015 #41
OK, gun control will stop some of the violence but not all of it friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #42
Oooh, I forgot to add "inarticulate" as well DonP Dec 2015 #12
This is why we win.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #13
gun lovers know what its like to be petulant. patsimp Dec 2015 #23
Same meme the NRA trotted out right after Sandy Hook RandySF Dec 2015 #26
Yup, 20 years and gun control has accomplished nothing and keep using the Evil NRA as an excuse DonP Dec 2015 #28
"activist gardening". BwAAHAH! Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #31
^^^Wow. Drop the mic. Kang Colby Dec 2015 #39
"activist gardening" discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #40
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