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branford

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23. If the robbers drove away, it would still be perfectly legal to pursue them
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 01:22 AM
Nov 2015

to their home or anywhere else, with or without a firearm. Criminals do not receive any form of legal immunity from pursuit from their victims during their escape.

The laws of self-defense also do not change because a pursuit is initiated. In your hypothetical, if the boyfriend followed the thieves by car to their home, he would still only be able to employ lethal force if reasonably endangered, just as he didn't fire until the thieves turned on him during the actual chase. The boyfriend would not be able to break into or trespass upon private property, but could wait and observe them on public property or, if allowed, other private property.

Your really have no understanding of basic criminal law and the rules of self-defense, regardless of whether or not a firearm is involved, including the fact that in some localities, such as Texas, lethal force is permitted to stop property crimes. You're hatred of guns is blinding you to centuries of jurisprudence in both liberal and conservative jurisdictions.

Lastly, the only "stupidity" of display was that of the thieves. They should never have turned on the boyfriend, were lucky they survived the encounter, and hopefully will display better judgment in the future.

The efforts defending repeat, often violent, criminals, and then trying to criminalize innocent victims, all because of a dislike of firearms, is one of the reasons for the failure of gun control as well as increasing numbers of people carrying firearms for defense.


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Try to be helpful these days. yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #1
"he grabbed a handgun and ran after the suspects." SecularMotion Nov 2015 #2
LOL - Looks like we reached the same conclusion. nt procon Nov 2015 #5
It has been established sarisataka Nov 2015 #7
Looks like Texas is a bad place to be a criminal. FLson Nov 2015 #9
Actually, that is legal in California gejohnston Nov 2015 #11
It is perfectly legal to pursue escaping robbers, with or without possession of a firearm, branford Nov 2015 #12
He "ran after the suspects" in order shoot them. procon Nov 2015 #3
Oh, so you were there? GGJohn Nov 2015 #10
I'm sure your own fictionalized speculation is absolutely correct. procon Nov 2015 #13
He only shot AFTER the POS turned to confront him. GGJohn Nov 2015 #15
Why, that sounds like the same excuse George Zimmerman used, so it must be OK. nt procon Nov 2015 #16
LOL. GGJohn Nov 2015 #17
Odd, but when I think about gun violence, humor is not the first thing that comes to mind. procon Nov 2015 #18
Odd, I don't remember laughing about firearm violence, which, BTW, GGJohn Nov 2015 #19
so, not only are you saying that gejohnston Nov 2015 #20
Running down the robbers after they left and no longer posed a threat, procon Nov 2015 #21
If the robbers drove away, it would still be perfectly legal to pursue them branford Nov 2015 #23
Are you actually trying to argue it was self defense to run after them and shoot them down? procon Nov 2015 #26
No, you're not right. branford Nov 2015 #29
You are laboring under illusions... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #34
No the excuse Zimmerman used.. virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #22
That happened after Zimmerman tracked him and accosted him. procon Nov 2015 #24
According to the evidenced adduced at trial, branford Nov 2015 #25
The sad truth is, that virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #27
not self defense, he pursued them just so he could shoot them mwrguy Nov 2015 #4
He didn't shoot sarisataka Nov 2015 #8
It's perfectly legal to pursue escaping thieves. branford Nov 2015 #14
Prove he did it virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #28
What?! And stop a newly-concocted Narrative™ in its tracks? I won't hear of this. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #36
So much for the myth of the law abiding gun controller. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2015 #43
Correction: The violent Thugs are in jail. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #35
One life possibly saved, and millions dead over the last hundred years. FLson Nov 2015 #6
Two men TeddyR Nov 2015 #30
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I have no idea what you are talking about TeddyR Nov 2015 #32
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So, directly calling someone "racist" is now a package deal with NRA Talking point? Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #38
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But, they take it so seriously. Followed by "no one wants to take your guns©." Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #41
So, any rebuttal to your "reasoning" isssss an NRA "talk point?" Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #37
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I now bowel down. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #42
bad, bad man with a gun... ileus Nov 2015 #44
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