Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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23. threatening anyone with a weapon

Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:01 PM

Nov 2015

especially when the robber, after getting the money, decides to herd people in the back room, that meets the definition of reasonable belief of or immediate threat of death or grave bodily harm. There is no guarantee that the robber wouldn't have murdered the clerks just for the fun of it. That actually happens. As much as it was an unfortunate necessity, are you saying that people shouldn't have the right to defend themselves from possible or certain death? Had he murdered them, the chance of the crime being solved is less than half.

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Oooops! "Police: Customer with concealed carry license kills robber at corner store" [View all] DonP Nov 2015 OP

Yes! One good guy with a guy killing one bad guy with a gun SheilaT Nov 2015 #1

I just read the OP's thread, GGJohn Nov 2015 #12

So you're saying killing someone is a good thing? daleanime Nov 2015 #2

Uh, no. The "drop of hat" metaphor is YOURS. Own it... Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #5

Forcing people at gunpoint into a back room = "drop of a hat" DonP Nov 2015 #7

Reginald Gildersleeve (this would be a much bigger story, with the name you gave, I think) petronius Nov 2015 #18

A criminal with a gun committing a crime? Yep, its a good thing. Waldorf Nov 2015 #35

I'd call that manslaughter. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #3

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #6

I wouldn't. Being forced to go "to the back of the store" is Especially threatening. nt Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #11

gun owner murders man in armed robbery attempt nt msongs Nov 2015 #4

LOL. GGJohn Nov 2015 #9

Wind. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #14

disgusting. Silicosys4 Nov 2015 #16

Poor victim sarisataka Nov 2015 #20

innocent sweet little criminal with a gun... ileus Nov 2015 #31

You slept through years of English classes, didn't you? Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #43

Bet he will not rob another store Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #8

Yup. GGJohn Nov 2015 #10

Well, being kinda dead he probably won't rob another store packman Nov 2015 #13

We live in a violent country, my fellow citizens HassleCat Nov 2015 #15

Is armed robbery, or the mere attempt of it, a capital crime now? procon Nov 2015 #17

When should self defense be acceptable sarisataka Nov 2015 #19

Only if robbers never never kill people in cold blood hack89 Nov 2015 #22

threatening anyone with a weapon gejohnston Nov 2015 #23

Definition issue and an answer discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #24

Augustine addressed the central ethical concern. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #44

that was my thought on the matter as well discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #45

You really need to have a discussion with the 5 families of the women that took your advice... DonP Nov 2015 #28

Some risks aren't worth taking. ileus Nov 2015 #30

An armed robbery threatens the lives of all the other people. Waiting to see if the person shoots Waldorf Nov 2015 #36

If the judicial process was there in the store, this man would not have had to kill. krispos42 Nov 2015 #39

No, but it is one of only a few crimes where the use of deadly force is justified... jmg257 Nov 2015 #46

Were multiple people in the store? JonathanRackham Nov 2015 #21

Yep, that's about 3 for the year for the entire country. louis-t Nov 2015 #25

There's a great many more defensive firearms uses than three. branford Nov 2015 #26

What is it called when selective news is broadcast or printed? JonathanRackham Nov 2015 #27

I believe it's referred to as the "Gun Control Reform Activism" Group on DU... nt branford Nov 2015 #40

Here's a much better Reddit group for gun use SecularMotion Nov 2015 #33

Feel free to read any Reddit groups or news sources of your choosing. branford Nov 2015 #41

Hispanic??? Wut??? Only paranoid white people conceal carry... ileus Nov 2015 #29

That's why I liked this story, punctures multiple balloons at once DonP Nov 2015 #32

Well, it had to happen eventually .... eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #34

Happens all the time, try to keep up DonP Nov 2015 #37

two must reads for both sides gejohnston Nov 2015 #38

Update - Cops: Charges not expected against licensed gun holder who killed suspected robber DonP Nov 2015 #42

Don't trick or treat with a plastic gun. ileus Nov 2015 #47

He grabbed a 13 year old boy and put the gun to his head DonP Nov 2015 #48

Race of the shooter TeddyR Nov 2015 #49