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jimmy the one

(2,721 posts)
13. a zeal to deceive
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:24 AM
Oct 2015

gjohnston: ... there was no ruling about individual vs collective right before that. Both sides like to bring up Miller, but Miller didn't buy the collective rights argument either.

1939 Miller case, UNANIMOUSLY* decided by SCOTUS: The Constitution, as originally adopted, granted to the Congress power -- To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.
With obvious purpose to assure the continuation and render possible the effectiveness of such forces, the declaration and guarantee of the Second Amendment were made. It must be interpreted and applied with that end in view.

*unanimously was 8-0, since one justice just appt'd & recused himself.

I know you've seen the above before Johnston, yet you have the gall to ignore it or 'forget' it, in your zeal to deceive.

Johnston:The writer doesn't know what he is talking about and the essay wasn't even coherent.

You're not the one to be criticizing others here about not knowing what one is talking about.

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Almost EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #1
actually not, gejohnston Oct 2015 #6
a zeal to deceive jimmy the one Oct 2015 #13
I know exactly what I'm talking about gejohnston Oct 2015 #15
a blue link still needs explanation jimmy the one Oct 2015 #17
the reason I ignored the collective right gejohnston Oct 2015 #18
what kind of error was it jimmy the one Oct 2015 #20
stupid ol' supreme court jimmy the one Oct 2015 #19
printz and miller were both criminals gejohnston Oct 2015 #21
non responsive jimmy the one Oct 2015 #23
non responsive is gejohnston Oct 2015 #24
The U.S. Constitution doesn't do "collective rights." Rights are individual. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #9
The right to life, liberty, and persuit of happiness is where firearm ownership comes from. ileus Oct 2015 #2
The "pursuit of happiness" does not necessarily equate with "happiness is a warm gun" Human101948 Oct 2015 #3
A right to life implies a right to self-defense discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #4
It is the mode of self defense that is in dispute... Human101948 Oct 2015 #5
File with ATF... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #7
That's a negative, you're just wrong discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #8
That paragraph essentially destroys interpretation out of context... beevul Oct 2015 #10
Absolutely!!! discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #11
the invisible word - declaratory jimmy the one Oct 2015 #12
the Bill of Rights... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #14
declaratory & (govt) restrictive jimmy the one Oct 2015 #22
Of course it isn't, james. beevul Oct 2015 #16
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