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LGBT Civil Rights and Activism

BrienDoesIt

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9. No one I'm discussing this with gets that.

Reply to Solly Mack (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 16, 2022, 06:49 PM

Nov 2022

Ive used the abortion analogy because I think it's a good analogy - just in the sense of forcing you to go elsewhere for something you have the right to do right now. But no one seems to understand that having a right and then getting it yanked back and then giving you half of what you had previously isn't really a step forward. It's like getting rid of the very core of the issue and saying "well it's protections". It is protections! Those are good! What would be even better is just making states give you the license in the first place. .

And I know that is sticky, that congress can't just wave a wand and get gay marriage forced into every state. But I just can't help but see this as a step backwards.

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Does this new law allow states to discriminate against gay people? [View all] BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 OP

Looking forward to this discussion. ShazzieB Nov 2022 #1

Here's a decent article on how things could play out. Solly Mack Nov 2022 #2

So it's exactly as I thought - it still allows states to discriminate. BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 #5

It offers federal protections but if Obergefell falls, states that want to discriminate can, yes Solly Mack Nov 2022 #6

I think the fed protections are a good thing. Very much so. BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 #7

That is one of the many questions - how it plays out on the state level Solly Mack Nov 2022 #8

No one I'm discussing this with gets that. BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 #9

You need to look at two cases: 1) as it is now and 2) if the SC over turns same sex marriage rights karynnj Nov 2022 #3

I'm not asking for this law to not go through.... BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 #4

It isn't a step backwards. Just a tiny step forward as laws go. ColinC Nov 2022 #10

But isn't it giving states the right to deny you a marriage license? BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 #11

It is. Which is how it is already as far as the laws on the books. ColinC Nov 2022 #12

What good is the progress if, in order to be protected by it, I have to take a vacation to get it? BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 #14

That's kinda how progress works unfortunately ColinC Nov 2022 #15

You're not wrong. At all. BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 #17

It is not a step backwards because it ONLY has consequence if the SC acts karynnj Nov 2022 #13

I guess I don't see it this way. BrienDoesIt Nov 2022 #16