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PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,076 posts)
20. It usually does get better.
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 01:17 AM
Jul 2017

And the relatives who say their kids never had a single issue are full of shit.

Some years back, when we were having issues with our younger son, I asked a psychologist we were doing some family therapy with, why was it that my friends with kids the same age had no problems? He said that if there weren't problems now, there would be at some point in the future. Maybe he was wrong, but that gave me a great deal of comfort.

Here's another story that may help a bit. I'm one of six children. Growing up, we absolutely had our share of squabbles. Which apparently my mother never noticed. Fast forward a couple of decades. My younger sister and I had five children in six years. Sounds like a lot, but there were two mothers involved. Anyway, at various times our Mom would say, in strongly disapproving tones, when one of the kids was acting up, "You kids NEVER acted that way." At first it hurt, then we realized that Mom had forgotten, or was oblivious in the first place to the totally normally behaviors of her own children.

So for years after, whenever the two of us were together with our kids, and (as invariably happened) one of the five acted up, the sister who wasn't the mother of the miscreant would say, "My kids NEVER do that." And then we'd both laugh hysterically.

All kids act up. As parents we may become inured to our own child's behavior. So we might not recognize when our own kid is behaving badly. Or (and this is truly separate) we may be extremely annoyed by someone else's child who is misbehaving, even when that (mis)behavior is actually within normal bounds.

The only thing I can offer is that you keep on talking to other parents you know. If there is any chance of family therapy, seek it out, but I'm not about to suggest that you can't make it through without it.

Here's another way to think about these teen years. Until maybe 150 years ago, kids were out on their own by age 18, often earlier. Boys went to work on the farm or in the factory. Girls got married and had babies. We're hard wired to become independent in our mid to late teens, even though our brains aren't fully mature. In modern culture kids stay at home a whole lot longer. Many of them go off to college for four or more years, retaining that dependency into their early twenties.

I'm not saying you need to toss your sons out of the house right now, but give them, in so far as possible, opportunities to be independent. Maybe earn money. Do hang in there.

Oh, and I was a stay at home mom and was very glad of it. My younger son was an especial challenge, and had I been in the work force and more disconnected to him I honestly think it would have been much worse.

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Okay. No posts. Nobody's frustrated with parenting? Let's wake up the group. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #1
I agree, parenting is tough. Ruby Reason Mar 2012 #2
It's not a ramble. If you say you know what to do, you're full of shit. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #3
So you have a few ladies you feel need an apology? Ruby Reason Mar 2012 #4
Not at the moment. When I'm wrong I admit it and deal with the apology then. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #5
I wasn't reffering to your daughters... Ruby Reason Mar 2012 #6
I'm still trying to track a few down. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #7
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Spam deleted by William769 (MIR Team) lovemehoney Mar 2012 #8
I just joined this group, along with three others. HelpmeHelp Aug 2012 #9
teenagers becoming adults... steve2470 Aug 2012 #10
I wasn't exactly a piece of cake on a plate with a scoop of ice cream. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #11
My 16 year old son is very easy, compared to many others steve2470 Aug 2012 #12
I was just freaked out when I told my mom I was stoned all to Jesus for ten years. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #13
Best wishes with your kids steve2470 Aug 2012 #14
Seriously, I'd say mine are easy. We set down solid rules early on and eventually didn't have... HopeHoops Aug 2012 #15
Help! Grandma raising 2 grandkids, 11 and 5 (birthdays in March). They've been with me 4-years now. txwhitedove Feb 2013 #17
Happy Spring! I am so grateful for this awesome support group, and can tell ya'll can't wait to txwhitedove Mar 2013 #18
Hi, I've never posted in here because Bettie Jun 2017 #19
It usually does get better. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2017 #20
Thank you so much Bettie Jul 2017 #21
How about adult in-laws? Marthe48 Sep 2021 #23
Wish and hope for a happy outcome Marthe48 Dec 2021 #24
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