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In reply to the discussion: Men’s Rights Movement Spreads False Claims about Women [View all]lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)19. I've never heard anyone claim that "men are victimized by sex crimes as much as women are"
The linked article is correct; if the claim had been made, it would be false. Men aren't sexually assaulted as frequently as women are.
Intimate partner violence on the other hand;
Methods. We analyzed data on young US adults aged 18 to 28 years from the 2001 National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, which contained information about partner violence and injury reported by 11 370 respondents on 18761 heterosexual relationships....
...Almost 25% of the people surveyed 28% of women and 19% of men said there was some violence in their relationship. Women admitted perpetrating more violence (25% versus 11%) as well as being victimized more by violence (19% versus 16%) than men did. According to both men and women, 50% of this violence was reciprocal, that is, involved both parties, and in those cases the woman was more likely to have been the first to strike.
Violence was more frequent when both partners were involved, and so was injury to either partner. In these relationships, men were more likely than women to inflict injury (29% versus 19%).
When the violence was one-sided, both women and men said that women were the perpetrators about 70% of the time. Men were more likely to be injured in reciprocally violent relationships (25%) than were women when the violence was one-sided (20%).
That means both men and women agreed that men were not more responsible than women for intimate partner violence. The findings cannot be explained by men's being ashamed to admit hitting women, because women agreed with men on this point.
...Almost 25% of the people surveyed 28% of women and 19% of men said there was some violence in their relationship. Women admitted perpetrating more violence (25% versus 11%) as well as being victimized more by violence (19% versus 16%) than men did. According to both men and women, 50% of this violence was reciprocal, that is, involved both parties, and in those cases the woman was more likely to have been the first to strike.
Violence was more frequent when both partners were involved, and so was injury to either partner. In these relationships, men were more likely than women to inflict injury (29% versus 19%).
When the violence was one-sided, both women and men said that women were the perpetrators about 70% of the time. Men were more likely to be injured in reciprocally violent relationships (25%) than were women when the violence was one-sided (20%).
That means both men and women agreed that men were not more responsible than women for intimate partner violence. The findings cannot be explained by men's being ashamed to admit hitting women, because women agreed with men on this point.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/?tool=pubmed
The study concluded that of all domestic violence, 15% is unilateral violence by men, 35% is unilateral violence by women and 50% is reciprocal. It also concluded that reciprocal violence is the type most often resulting in injury for both men and women. In fact, a man in a reciprocally violent relationship is 25% more likely to be injured than a woman in a relationship in which only the man is violent.
Interventions which deny the character of the cycle of domestic violence are doomed to fail.
The OP conflates separable issues. Strictly speaking, if anyone has ever actually claimed that "men experience more sex crimes and abuse", they would be wrong. According to the NIH, men experience more abuse but not more sexual assault.
If you still think that what I'm saying is disinformation, please take it up with the National Institute of Health.
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I like how Men's Rights Stuff is on the SPLC radar --that's what we're dealing with
CreekDog
May 2012
#3
At the time she made the post, there were people arguing over the Men's group in H&M.
Neoma
May 2012
#9
In case anyone is interested in the views of ONE of the hosts of The Men's Group;
Warren DeMontague
May 2012
#16
I know you aren't replying to me, but I've never thought you are an MRA.
Starry Messenger
May 2012
#17
Were there really progressives and liberals who were fighting against VAWA reauthorization?
Warren DeMontague
May 2012
#22
MRA groups are extremely hateful. Men would not want to be associated with them.
Dash87
May 2012
#23
I've never heard anyone claim that "men are victimized by sex crimes as much as women are"
lumberjack_jeff
May 2012
#19