I'm a little peeved, to put it lightly

[iverglas]

19. I'd like group members to take a look at Feldspar's hidden post

Feldspar has been PPRed

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=275415&sub=trans

as a result of this post.

Some of us will remember Feldspar from this thread at old DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=229&topic_id=13075&mesg_id=13098

I'm not sure what she has written at new DU, except this in Women's Rights, expressing disagreement with the idea of "Women's Rights" being defined as a "Gender and Orientation" issue in the forum subdivisions:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11389

Feldspar

"Gender and Orientaion"?!

Women (and our "issues" ) are now just lumped right in with the *queers* whether we're *queer* or not and as if we're some fringey minority like the MRAs over there in the OH So Necessary! Men's Group. Jeezuz, we all know that DU is one bigg-ass Men's Group already!

Females comprise more than 51% of the human population yet here we are in our little "safe haven" because we need paternalistic protection from the brothers riding roughshod all over us? Well there's something progressive and new! Way to blaze the trail for that women's EQUALITY y'all are going on about all the time!

Democracy? Ha! Effing pathetic is what it is.

And BTW: "Gender" is the societal construct which produces feminine and masculine as sexed roles based on the two biological sexes, Female and Male. I am NOT a *feminine*, I am a Female.

and this post explaining it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113811

Feldspar

Whoopsie! I am a Lesbian and just thought

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that everybody was hip to the fact that *queer* has been reclaimed by LGBT crowd. My bad.

My point was simply that Females are NOT a minority group like MRAs, Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals and Trans*people; females are The 51%.

And I for one am tired of being treated like some ghetto-ized special interest group when I belong to the majority class.

Feldspar appeared to be a woman-identified lesbian. This might put her at odds with the LBGT-identified women we have heard from in the past.

I think that perspective is one that should be explored here. I think that is the issue raised in the post hidden in this thread. I also think Feldspar was not the most adept at posting coherently, let alone non-confrontationally, of course.


My main problem is the interference in the proceedings of the Feminists forum by someone who alerted on the post, by the jurors who voted to hide it, and by the MIRT member who decided to PPR the poster.

If we in this group have problems with posts or posters, we would like to be able to deal with them ourselves, just as the LBGT group does, for example. If we want to discuss other DU members or other DU discussions, we want to be able to do that too.

We intend to have the freedom to discuss anything we like from a feminist perspective as the group defines that perspective, and we intend to exercise that freedom.

If we feel that a post in this forum is inappropriate, one of us can alert on it. If the alert is unsuccessful and/or if the poster is asked and does not agree to edit or delete it, or persists in inappropriate posting after being asked not to, we can ban the person from this forum. We can ban people who post inappropriately in any case. We can take the problem to the administrators and request that the poster be PPRed, via a TOS alert.

This is our forum. We do not need or want outsiders to the forum controlling the content here.

Is there general agreement on this?

Please also see the discussion of Feldspar's post in the H&M forum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/124041878