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mariuma

(11 posts)
13. I made that point
Wed May 6, 2015, 07:30 AM
May 2015

...that if a woman lets a man get close to her he can likely pull the gun out of her hands. You and I agree on that. Except I didn't say "duh". Perhaps read my post.

I am against guns on college campuses because the combo of drunk young adults and lethal weapons is frightening.

But I would like to see the studies you mention: please give citations. I can think of lots of reasons why the studies turned out that way, some due to cause-effect relationship (woman waits too long to draw and has the gun used on her), some associative (the kinds of women who carry guns tend to be members of more dangerous niches in society, causing selection bias). Or maybe women with guns tend to move in the world more freely instead of locking themselves inside. If you give yourself 100 percent more freedom
In exchange for a ten percent higher death rate, that would be a worthwhile trade-off for some.

And the eventual offputting effect to oppoetunistic rapists, after enough 'easy targets' prove themselves to be less easy than the attacker suspected, may save lives and change society in the end. Though you won't see it on any study unless concealed-carry becomes widespread among women.

I disagree with your belief that the gun argument tells women the rape is their fault. Obviously rape is the fault of whoever commits it. I believe in fighting for a world in which rape never crosses anyone's mind because we have all been raised to respect each other. But a two pronged strategy (let's try to teach people not to rape, and for those that don't listen, be ready to teach them the fatal way) doesn't negate that.

Of course I hope you will always be free to NOT carry a gun. No means no! But I am glad we all have the other choice too.

Please do post those citations to the studies you mentioned.

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Guns are not magic Gothmog Apr 2015 #1
I'm mercuryblues Apr 2015 #2
So how does that work for minor females? Kalidurga Apr 2015 #3
The youngest rape victim I know was less than 6 mo old at the time of the rape. Gormy Cuss Apr 2015 #9
One of the idiot GOP state lawmakers here wants students to be armed on sinkingfeeling Apr 2015 #4
LOL ... don't TEMPT me ... you dumbass fuckwads. DO NOT TEMPT ME !!! Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #5
do i get to shoot the one that gave me a drug.... in between the black outs? seabeyond Apr 2015 #6
"She dressed provocatively so she could front rape as an excuse... and then she killed him!" DetlefK Apr 2015 #7
i FUGGIN' love you and this. ya. all that. lol. thank you for the wonderful laugh. seabeyond Apr 2015 #8
A different opinion from a feminist mariuma May 2015 #10
addendum mariuma May 2015 #11
If more women carried guns, more women will die from gun deaths Novara May 2015 #12
I made that point mariuma May 2015 #13
Read what I wrote Novara May 2015 #14
8 posts and 2 of them are telling feminists the solution to rape is carrying a gun? CreekDog May 2015 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #16
Please forgive me if I sound too blunt. icymist May 2015 #17
I don't see anger in that reply. I'd appreciate your pointing it out as sometimes I am slow. uppityperson May 2015 #18
9 posts now and 3 of them are carrying on this nonsensical idea CreekDog May 2015 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #20
You're saying that women should protect themselves from rape illegally CreekDog May 2015 #21
The NRA person is essentially saying women are to blame for the rape threat Gormy Cuss May 2015 #22
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