Feminists

Bernardo de La Paz

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51. Ask CSStrowbridge, who is the one making the assertion that he is a member.

Sun May 25, 2014, 04:55 PM

May 2014

Ask that poster how they know so much about their members.

Their assertions don't seem to jive with facts and the poster didn't provide any links. I can't find any reference to him being a member of any group, nor to MRA groups being terrorists. The Isla Vista shooter is effectively a lone wolf, unless there is some credible evidence the other way.

We don't just make stuff up, do we? Even when angry?

P.S. There is no condescension in my post you object to. All 19 words are neutral. There is no reference to the poster, just their post, nothing personal, just discussing facts. You are reading stuff in there that is not there or maybe carrying over some emotions found in some other post.

P.P.S. Before you go too far on your high horse, I don't have any time for MRA groups. So take your distasteful attempt to mount a personal attack somewhere other than DU and let's return to the facts and label speculation as speculation.

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Let's call the Isla Vista killings what they were: misogynist extremism [View all] Starry Messenger May 2014 OP

An article on SPLC with interesting parallels, imo Starry Messenger May 2014 #1

Chilling, Starry Messenger. brer cat May 2014 #2

And these same guys target and kill many women. Starry Messenger May 2014 #4

misogyny...the gateway drug. ......great articles you shared BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #7

It's self-evident to me too. Starry Messenger May 2014 #12

yes, we definitely deserve that. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #94

Very well said...n/t whathehell May 2014 #15

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #91

awww ..... shucks :) .....thanks smirkymonkey. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2014 #93

I have known too many like that Demeter May 2014 #27

may I humbly say it goes beyond that DonCoquixote May 2014 #83

K&R. Overseas May 2014 #3

I had the same thought excringency May 2014 #5

+1 Starry Messenger May 2014 #6

He is a typical... CSStrowbridge May 2014 #8

He is not typical of any group except mass murderers. Nor was he a member of any MRA group. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #16

FYI, this is the Feminist group. Starry Messenger May 2014 #17

Sure. I searched but can't find him being a member of any group. Please provide the links. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #47

PUAHate.com Starry Messenger May 2014 #48

Thanks for the link to dailyKos. Interesting. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #52

There are several variations, like white nationalist groups. Starry Messenger May 2014 #58

It doesn't matter one bit excringency May 2014 #56

I know, I'm just getting tired of only one gender being told they are making shit up in this convo. Starry Messenger May 2014 #60

I see now I was drawing a distinction that does not matter in this case, Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #69

I actually have it linked up in this thread. If this is the same one: Starry Messenger May 2014 #71

That's the one! I think it rather nails it. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #74

How DO you know so much about chervilant May 2014 #39

Ask CSStrowbridge, who is the one making the assertion that he is a member. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #51

Ah, yes, more condescension... chervilant May 2014 #88

I disagree. JDPriestly May 2014 #9

If you haven't yet, it would probably be useful to peruse his manifesto. Starry Messenger May 2014 #10

Just a thought, but, there's lost of WOMEN who are "lonely & rejected" and whathehell May 2014 #14

+1 n/t Triana May 2014 #18

I've known some female stalkers, and they were very difficult to deal with. JDPriestly May 2014 #23

Please..."Very difficult to deal with" is a lot different than "Mass Murderer". whathehell May 2014 #31

Seems that Rodgers also attacked his roommates or at least that something violent JDPriestly May 2014 #32

I think it was mainly about women, at least on the conscious level, whathehell May 2014 #54

And this guy isn't? ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #25

No one is saying he isn't.. whathehell May 2014 #30

Maybe guns really are some sort of phallic symbol? JDPriestly May 2014 #33

I think they may be, but I think male privilege & entitlement whathehell May 2014 #49

There are a lot of answers in his manifesto. Demit May 2014 #40

In his videos, he says he hates and despises guys. Helen Borg May 2014 #11

He hated men who got women he wanted. Starry Messenger May 2014 #13

"Bigotry is irrational" Android3.14 May 2014 #21

His attitudes SO remind me of Republicans/Teabaggers Triana May 2014 #22

This is such an excellent post. Starry Messenger May 2014 #37

He wanted women, but he hated them. wtmusic May 2014 #29

Lots of misogynists both hate and want women. Starry Messenger May 2014 #35

Wanting women = hating women. I'm lost there. JDPriestly May 2014 #34

His manifesto says he was declaring a "War on Women". Starry Messenger May 2014 #36

You REALLY need to read his manifesto. He lays out quite clearly how he feels. Demit May 2014 #41

Here's a screen-cap if you don't have time to wade through the whole thing. Starry Messenger May 2014 #42

and as usual, this "nice guy" felt entitled to "beautiful" females--apparently, zazen May 2014 #68

That way they get it both ways. Starry Messenger May 2014 #75

Very true. Ironically, a lot of those attitudes are due to the influence of Holllywood JDPriestly May 2014 #85

You need to listen to his words. He clearly both wanted and hated women. And yes, it is Squinch May 2014 #43

Of course it is, sulphurdunn May 2014 #57

No one said that he was. Starry Messenger May 2014 #59

That's true. sulphurdunn May 2014 #64

Well, this is the Feminist group. Starry Messenger May 2014 #67

I didn't look you up. sulphurdunn May 2014 #70

I am doing the first thing that needs to be done in any organizing drive. Starry Messenger May 2014 #72

Good for you. sulphurdunn May 2014 #73

Thanks for the help. Starry Messenger May 2014 #76

Anytime sulphurdunn May 2014 #77

I was having a ROFL about the mammoth reference. nt geek tragedy May 2014 #90

I will agree with you there. But not all mean people are men. JDPriestly May 2014 #86

Are we talking about "mean" here? Starry Messenger May 2014 #89

wow. PeaceNikki May 2014 #55

He was way overly focused on sex. JDPriestly May 2014 #87

He hated women because they weren't attracted to him. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #82

I know of 2naSalit May 2014 #19

KnR. I scanned the LA Times article today to see if there was a reference to his online affiliations Hekate May 2014 #20

Wasn't this fella just mentally disturbed? Mysogyny never even crossed my mind.. and I'm a woman secondwind May 2014 #24

He said he was waging a "War on Women" ConservativeDemocrat May 2014 #26

Here's a TINY snip from his manifesto PeaceNikki May 2014 #53

There are real men. sulphurdunn May 2014 #28

Well, which party is making sweeping gender generalizations that lead to this problem? Starry Messenger May 2014 #38

It appears the killer sulphurdunn May 2014 #45

I'm taking him at his words. Starry Messenger May 2014 #50

We can't discuss this till we propose a solution for you? Ok, we have your rules now... Squinch May 2014 #44

I don't think I said that. sulphurdunn May 2014 #46

. LeftyMom May 2014 #65

K&R Scuba May 2014 #61

actually, misogynistic terrorism noiretextatique May 2014 #62

I feel sure we will see more of this. Starry Messenger May 2014 #63

sadly...i agree noiretextatique May 2014 #84

K&R Jamastiene May 2014 #66

I've been thinking about a counterfactual and how it would change this guy's story. LeftyMom May 2014 #78

Right? Starry Messenger May 2014 #79

And instead of being dragged back from the brink by reasonable advice his resentments were fed. LeftyMom May 2014 #80

What I don't get now is people telling feminists this is our problem to fix. Starry Messenger May 2014 #81

Absolutely Horriying. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #92