Israel/Palestine

Picaro

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77. This is a grotesque logical fallacy

Wed Jun 4, 2025, 12:03 AM

Jun 4

Taking a specific incident and generalizing it to condemn an entire population is what others have done. It has always been proven to be wrong.

Trump is doing it with migrants now. The U.S. did this with native Americans. Later law enforcement did this with Italian immigrants and Irish immigrants.

This looks no better on the Israeli IDF and Netenyahu Likud government.

By your logic every massacre can be justified because someone in the hated group did something hateful and vile.

This is not how the moral scales are balanced.

I’m utterly disgusted by what the Israeli government and the IDF are doing.

That doesn’t mean I support mindless terroristic action against the Israeli people.

This man was wrong and was making the same error in ethical logic you are currently making.

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Israeli strike kills nine of Gaza doctor's children, hospital says [View all] AloeVera May 24 OP

An AI-detected target walks into a residence, and a smart bomb hits it. John1956PA May 24 #1

"Where's Daddy" was developed by the Israeli military and has been in use in Gaza since the beginning of the war. AloeVera May 24 #2

Isn't it the same hospital on whose grounds three top Hamas commanders, including Mohammad Sinwar, the leader of Hamas Beastly Boy May 25 #3

You're wrong as always. AloeVera May 25 #6

Other than your presumptive assertions, there is nothing you can produce to challenge me. Beastly Boy May 25 #8

The claim appears to be that it was a targeted attack on Hamdi Al-Najjar via "Where's Daddy?". lapucelle May 26 #12

They ran out of claims that appear halfass legitimate. An outright illegitimate one will do just fine Beastly Boy May 26 #13

See post 14. AloeVera May 26 #15

What's interesting is that lapucelle May 26 #35

Israel started bombing on evening of Oct 7th. AloeVera May 26 #37

Like I said, I don't get my news from tiktok. N/T lapucelle May 26 #43

He is a doctor too. AloeVera May 26 #14

Healthcare workers like this guy? "Journalist, doctor held Israelis hostage in Gaza" lapucelle May 26 #36

So all healthcare workers and their children are guilty? AloeVera May 26 #38

A doctor holding hostages in a residential building is disgusting. lapucelle May 26 #41

This is a grotesque logical fallacy Picaro Jun 4 #77

Exactly. Two things can be true at the same time. NH Ethylene Jun 4 #78

"Taking a specific incident and generalizing it to condemn an entire population"... lapucelle Jun 4 #79

Please elucidate. Picaro Jun 4 #80

My background is in education. Students learn best when they figure things out for themselves. lapucelle Jun 4 #81

Snide aren't you--even when you're wrong Picaro Jun 4 #82

Your profile says that you're from Plano, Texas. lapucelle Jun 4 #83

You just crossed into trollland Picaro Jun 4 #84

You said you're from Missouri. You're the one who brought it up. lapucelle Jun 4 #85

Geneva does not authorize going hog-wild in an orgy of destruction on hospitals. AloeVera May 26 #19

Geneva does not authorize the use of hospitals for harboring top belligerent commanders. Beastly Boy May 26 #24

None of it excuses going hog-wild in an orgy of destruction... AloeVera May 26 #25

Yes, for some reason "going hog-wild in an orgy of destruction" is not in the Geneva conventions at all. Beastly Boy May 26 #26

If you truly believe Israel's destruction of health care and hospitals AloeVera May 26 #27

I believe nothing. The Geneva conventions are not a religious text to believe or disbelieve. Beastly Boy May 26 #28

Oh and... the house where the kids burned to death was 3 miles from the hospital grounds. AloeVera May 25 #7

So it wasn't an *attack* terrorists hiding in a hospital? The claim is that it was a targeted attack lapucelle May 26 #11

The Hamas bigwigs were hiding underground in the tunnel under the European Hospital. lapucelle May 26 #9

What does that have to do with the strike 3 miles away on a civilian house? AloeVera May 26 #16

That was terrorist stronghold in a different hospital. You pointed that out, remember? lapucelle May 26 #17

Huh? Lol AloeVera May 26 #20

Upthread when you got into a quibble about the hospital tunnels where Mohammed Sinwar and the murder videographer lapucelle May 26 #21

Post #3 ? That was not me... AloeVera May 26 #23

Read yor response. N/T lapucelle May 26 #29

Photo of her nine kids prepared for burial.... riversedge May 25 #4

Oh no... AloeVera May 25 #5

Yes. Hamas needs to release the remaining hostages and hostage bodies, surrender, and beg lapucelle May 26 #10

Never mind terrorist organizations use civilians as human shields. That doesn't enter the equation at all because AZLD4Candidate May 26 #18

Looks like the only side proven to use human shields is Israel. AloeVera May 26 #22

When Jewish lives are treated with such reverance, maybe I'll change my mind AZLD4Candidate May 26 #42

In all probability this is yet another lie. Richard D May 26 #30

This is the second time these children have been killed. Richard D May 26 #31

Appalling. There were nine real, alive children burned and mutilated to death. That is indisputable. AloeVera May 26 #33

Says . . . Richard D May 26 #34

You keep repeating 44,000 when that falsehood was called out already. AloeVera May 26 #39

UN lying about 44,000 children dying in 48 hours? Never happened! Beastly Boy May 26 #44

Oh and you are back on ignore. AloeVera May 26 #40

I'll do my best Richard D May 26 #45

Pictures lie and reveal Richard D May 27 #46

According to the article posted by the OP, it was a targeted strike on the father, a Hamas militant terrorist. lapucelle May 28 #49

Damn . . . Richard D May 28 #50

Either way the story stinks to high heaven. lapucelle May 28 #53

Which article was that in? Violet_Crumble Jun 3 #62

+972 Magazine. lapucelle Jun 3 #64

The 972mag article doesn't say that at all... Violet_Crumble Jun 3 #65

No, that's who the +972 magazine piece says are targeted. lapucelle Jun 3 #67

The 972mag article doesn't say anything about the father recently killed... Violet_Crumble Jun 3 #68

Actually, it's an inference based on evidence that the OP so helpfully provided. lapucelle Jun 3 #69

So, it's nothing but yr opinion. Okay. Violet_Crumble Jun 3 #70

Just trying to be pro-active.... Because of course the IDF would claim that "terrorists" were there! AloeVera Jun 3 #73

Gaza is full of terrorists. lapucelle Jun 3 #74

Then Israel is the King of Terror. AloeVera Jun 3 #75

Thanks.... AloeVera Jun 3 #72

It is not a lie that the children were killed. Even your source says that. AloeVera May 26 #32

That would be a treat NoRethugFriends May 27 #47

Because the story in the OP is raising so many red flags, it is likely a lie. Beastly Boy May 27 #48

$20 billion in 2024 in aid alone from U.S. to Israel. Duncanpup May 28 #51

We didn't give $20 billion dollars in aid to Israel in 2024. N/T lapucelle May 29 #55

Heartbreaking 💔 Goddessartist May 28 #52

Heartbreaking responses can be made to disappear . AloeVera May 28 #54

Sigh Israeli May 31 #56

Thanks... AloeVera May 31 #57

Regarding : Israeli Jun 1 #58

Very encouraging!! AloeVera Jun 1 #59

So much could be avoided if Israeli Jun 2 #60

Yep. Violet_Crumble Jun 3 #61

Wow, that's exactly what it is. AloeVera Jun 3 #63

That one gets trotted out quite regularly, accompanied by dit-dits around Palestinians... Violet_Crumble Jun 3 #66

"Why are those children there"? WTAF! AloeVera Jun 3 #71

More war crimes Picaro Jun 3 #76