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Beastly Boy

(12,636 posts)
34. Just because you seem to be genuinely interested in my opinion,
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:39 PM
May 6

I will give you somewhat serious answers (as serious as the DU format allows for). They will necessarily be short and incomplete but genuine to the extent possible..

A far more in-depth knowledge of Israel's internal political dynamics than I can provide is required to answer your question more seriously. My contact with the immensely diverse and ever-changing political landscape in Israel is superficial at best, and even on this level it will require volumes to succinctly communicate my views. For lack of an alternative, we will have to take this disclaimer as a point of departure for everything I say, and my replies, just like your questions, will be sorely lacking in context. That's the best I can do.

To me, there is clear distinction between Israel and Netanyahu. It is the post I replied to that makes this distinction arbitrary and nebulous, if not entirely non-existent at times. Furthermore, I see a clear distinction between Netanyahu and members of his cabinet, Netanyahu and the Judiciary branch, his cabinet and the Judiciary, Netanyahu and Israelis, Jews and Israelis, Netanyahu and IDF, etc. Without elaborating, you can still see why the overly simplistic rigidly judgemental stereotyping that lacks any nuance or specificity pisses me off so much.

No, the same does not apply to other countries, because geopolitical, cultural and historical differences between them are so varied that one standard cannot possibly apply to all. In the most general of terms, there is always a distinction between the rulers and the ruled, but there is so little in common from one country to the other that there is no way to generalize how those differences manifest themselves.

I believe the above will partially explain why I disagree with you on Netanyahu and his government: I believe that his government is way to the right of Netanyahu, and that he is beholden to his right wing for his political survival. For a number of reasons, too many to address in full, the radical right wingers got him by the balls, to speak figuratively. A more detailed explanation how and why it happened has to do with how governments in Israel are formed, but that's a topic way beyond my ability to address briefly.

As far as individual DUers, I would rather not go into how my opinions of them were formed. I have my reasons.

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War criminals gonna crime. Dave Bowman May 5 #1
Yes, that's what's happening. The warmongers have... brush May 5 #2
"a pariah nation" Dave Bowman May 5 #3
I keep hearing "a pariah nation" over and over again. Can you explain? Beastly Boy May 5 #5
Killing a lot of innocent civilians when they didnt have to. Eko May 5 #6
Clearly, that didn't make Israel a pariah nation. Beastly Boy May 5 #7
No, pretty sure I know what it means. Eko May 5 #8
You did see the numbers I cited, didn't you? Beastly Boy May 5 #9
You do realize that Israel ranked lower than us right? Eko May 5 #10
Oh yeah your link doesnt show what you posted either. Eko May 5 #11
What I posted was my observations which I based on the numbers in my source. Beastly Boy May 5 #12
How did you get Eko May 5 #13
Ok, I will not indulge you with lessons on basic math Beastly Boy May 5 #14
Not sure what this nath you are talking about is. Eko May 5 #15
Take a guess. I am sure you can figure it out. Beastly Boy May 5 #16
Unfortunately your Eko May 5 #17
Show me. Beastly Boy May 5 #18
Jt's not complicated and you know the answer. brush May 6 #19
"Pariah nation" implies that a nation is considered an outcast among other nations. Beastly Boy May 6 #20
You must be very proud that Israel's PM has a standing arrest warrant against him. brush May 6 #21
So you will not address the facts that invalidate your use of "pariah" with respect to the nation of Israel. Beastly Boy May 6 #22
Whatever 'facts' you're talkng about don't erase mass killings, bombing and destrction done to the Palestinians. brush May 6 #23
I gave you multple sources, and they are all in agreement Beastly Boy May 6 #24
Meh! Enjoy your war criminal PM. brush May 6 #25
He is not my PM. But I appreciate your confirmation that getting personal is all you've got. Beastly Boy May 6 #26
My mistake. Keep supporting Israel's war criminal PM. brush May 6 #27
I am not supporting him. But keep proving my point. Beastly Boy May 6 #28
Heehee. Dude, do you even know what you stand for? brush May 6 #29
I do. And you don't. That was my point, and you keep driving it home. Beastly Boy May 6 #30
Please. You're on everyone of these Israeli war crime OPs supporting Israel.. Do you support the war cries or not? brush May 6 #31
Once again, you are illustrating my point. Beastly Boy May 6 #32
Can you explain why you feel there's no distinction between the two? Violet_Crumble May 6 #33
Just because you seem to be genuinely interested in my opinion, Beastly Boy May 6 #34
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this one... Violet_Crumble May 18 #35
They bulldozed five tents. Sounds like some of these "settlers" had been displaced before. Hard to get..... FadedMullet May 5 #4
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