Israel/Palestine

Beastly Boy

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73. It is not the number of Israelis surveyed, and not other clients of this pollster that is in question.

Sun Apr 13, 2025, 05:25 PM

Apr 13

It is the methodology of the pollster, which, as a marketing strategy, they place in the hands of their clients, be they government, corporations, media or individuals, and which the clients can refine an infinite number of times to get the results they desire.

You don't even know who the client that controlled this survey is, or whether or not there were more than one question in the survey, or whether the same 500 Israelis replied to each question or each version of the question refined by the client, or the number of refinements each question undertook.

In this respect, it is funny that you accuse me of overlooking the quote you cited. I didn't overlook it, I deemed it to be redundant: it is beyond question that the client-controlled data, designed, executed and analyzed by an AI-driven engine of this outfit will eventually produce the outcomes that the client desires to obtain, especially considering the AI-generated insights they may receive to make their surveys fit the desired outcomes, with a 4.5 percent margin error and a confidence level of 95%.

I am beyond ecstatic to admit that I overlooked the aforementioned quote. It reinforces my argument in ways I thought unnecessary. I owe you a measure of gratitude for shaming me into including it. Mea culpa.

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What REALLY Happened in Gaza is SHOCKING & No One's Allowed to Talk About it [View all] Uncle Joe Apr 9 OP

Everyone who refused to vote for VP Harris owns this, and chants of "Democrats didn't motivate me enough, or there is no JohnSJ Apr 9 #1

This is antisemitic trash Mosby Apr 9 #2

From the son of a holocaust survivor? n/t Uncle Joe Apr 9 #3

What's his name? Do you even know? Mosby Apr 9 #12

No, This is the first time, that I've seen him, but I looked up the history of Double Downs News on Wikipedia Uncle Joe Apr 9 #16

Speaking of Double Down News, Beastly Boy Apr 9 #20

His name is Andrew Feinstein. Mosby Apr 9 #21

Thanks, I looked him up on Wikipedia and it seems he would know all about the injustice of apartheid Uncle Joe Apr 9 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Apr 9 #13

Karl Marx, a descendant from a long line of Rabbis, was a notorious antisemite. Beastly Boy Apr 9 #18

Which part of the video do you believe was actually untrue? n/t Uncle Joe Apr 9 #19

Did I accuse anyone of lying? I don't recall. Beastly Boy Apr 9 #22

genetic predispositions? n/t Uncle Joe Apr 9 #24

What about them? Did Mr Feinstein address any? Beastly Boy Apr 9 #25

Per post #23, he's apparently against apartheid and corruption. n/t Uncle Joe Apr 9 #26

Per Post #2, Beastly Boy Apr 9 #28

What do you believe is happening in Gaza and the West Bank? Uncle Joe Apr 9 #29

Why are you asking for my opinion on something other than what I commented on? Beastly Boy Apr 9 #30

You don't need to. n/t Uncle Joe Apr 9 #31

That's right. Which makes the question all the more perplexing. Beastly Boy Apr 9 #32

No it is not antisemitic, and it is not trash. You are in denial, hiding behind the anti-semitic card. Martin68 Apr 9 #4

Quote: "THE MAJORITY OF ISRAELI CITIZENS DON'T CONSIDER PALESTINIANS HUMAN" Mosby Apr 9 #5

What percentage of Israeli citizens support the current war in Gaza? Martin68 Apr 9 #6

Polls suggest that only 21% of Israelis don't want the war to end, Beastly Boy Apr 9 #27

Your statistic doesn't answer my question. Of course, most Israelis "want the war to end." The relevant Martin68 Apr 9 #36

I couldn't find any current polls (newer than half year old) that answers your question with the specificity you demand. Beastly Boy Apr 10 #46

If what you write is true, that there are no polls you trust to provide information regarding the percentage of Martin68 Apr 10 #49

I wrote that your expectations of polling are not legitimate. Beastly Boy Apr 10 #50

It is your assumptions that fly in the face of the reality on the ground in Gaza. The bombing Martin68 Apr 10 #52

What assumption are you talking aboutg? Beastly Boy Apr 10 #53

Your assumption is that a majority of Israelis view Palestinians as fully human. You have not provided any Martin68 Apr 11 #56

Like I said, one cannot prove a negative. Beastly Boy Apr 11 #57

Bye. See you around. Martin68 Apr 11 #58

Nearly 60%. AloeVera Apr 12 #63

It seems that you followed my advice to Martin68: find a less than legitimate pollster to ask your question Beastly Boy Apr 13 #66

Why not? Martin68 Apr 13 #68

Why not use illegitimate polling to force an illegitimate point? Beastly Boy Apr 13 #69

Wrong. AloeVera Apr 13 #71

It is not the number of Israelis surveyed, and not other clients of this pollster that is in question. Beastly Boy Apr 13 #73

I Never got a direct response, and the excuse was "you can't prove a negative." Acknowledging the percentage Martin68 Apr 13 #67

You got plenty of responses, and in a fit of wisdom, you decided not to reply. Beastly Boy Apr 13 #70

Lol AloeVera Apr 13 #72

I really appreciate you addressing my rather curious attempt to not beat a dead horse. Beastly Boy Apr 13 #74

Truth won't be silenced forever. AloeVera Apr 9 #35

Your outrage and interpretations aside, none of this addresses alleged antisemitic remarks by the author. Beastly Boy Apr 10 #47

That entire youtube channel is antisemitic, pro terrorist trash. nt LexVegas Apr 9 #7

born of apes and pigs Hieronymus Phact Apr 9 #8

Do you believe that all people of the world are religious fundamentalists believing their "Holy books" to the letter, Uncle Joe Apr 9 #9

All people in the world? Hieronymus Phact Apr 9 #10

It was just a question to address your ambiguous statement. Uncle Joe Apr 9 #11

It's not ambiguous at all. Hieronymus Phact Apr 9 #14

Oh but it is. AloeVera Apr 9 #33

If it's a mystery, you could look it up or something. Hieronymus Phact Apr 9 #37

Oh, I know the SOURCE... AloeVera Apr 9 #38

really Hieronymus Phact Apr 9 #39

It is in this case. AloeVera Apr 9 #40

It's being taught to children today Hieronymus Phact Apr 9 #41

What's happening in Gaza is on Israel. AloeVera Apr 9 #42

i gave you a clue Hieronymus Phact Apr 9 #43

If you seriously think... AloeVera Apr 9 #44

It's animosity towards Jews. Hieronymus Phact Apr 9 #45

Not yet kacekwl Apr 9 #15

I see a direct connection. Uncle Joe Apr 9 #17

Lets not forget, Eko Apr 9 #34

"A far higher number" than what? Seems like you are quotng out of context. Beastly Boy Apr 10 #48

I never said or implied Eko Apr 10 #51

Ok, then, let's not forget that the majority of Jewish Israelis is not in favor of annexing the West Bank. Beastly Boy Apr 10 #54

Sure, but 42% of Jewish Israelis are. Eko Apr 11 #59

A majority of Jewish Israelis in a liberal democratic state being against annexation is horrendous? Seriously? Beastly Boy Apr 11 #60

You keep leaving a part out for some reason. Eko Apr 12 #61

I am adding to the part you are laser focused on, at the expense of a far larger part you are leaving out. Beastly Boy Apr 12 #62

That is straight out funny. Eko Apr 13 #64

In a totoally unnecessary response to your ridiculous question: Beastly Boy Apr 13 #65

POTUS Biden wanted to end the Gaza War and supported a two-state solution.. PufPuf23 Apr 11 #55