An immoral boycott

[shira]

46. I believe in definitions, common terminology. You just make stuff up....

Your definition of Apartheid seems to range from all other countries but not Israel, to no other countries (including Apartheid South Africa) and not Israel. The reason why I don't care that much about a definition of Apartheid is that it's extremely difficult to make a definition of a political system. Look up fascism, for example - any definitions are vague and more like examples rather than proper definitions.

It's not my definition of apartheid. If Israel's actions do not fit the definition of apartheid, then it's not apartheid. Simple as that. You cannot justify your positions without commonly defined terminology. If you make crap up, you cannot expect others to follow.

When it comes to anti-Semitism, I strongly reject the idea that Israel and Zionism equals the Jews. You can bring up as many definitions of the "new" anti-Semitism you want. I'll still maintain that anti-Semitism is directed against Jews, and that criticism of Israel and Zionism is not anti-Semitism.

There's a commonly held working definition of antisemitism that every liberal western nation has adopted. You reject it because you think you personally know better. You can't expect others to go with your own personal definitions.

And then finally BDS: You seem to use an imaginary form of BDS that doesn't exist. If there were any actual attempts to boycott Israeli companies just because they were Israeli and not operating in the illegal settlements or supporting the occupation, I would be against that particular form of BDS. But there's no such BDS happening - all forms of actual acts of BDS are directed at the occupation and the settlements. All forms of legislation against BDS are directed against criticism of the settlements, not primarily Israel. The list of companies that do BDS only include companies divesting from the settlements or the occupation. The evidence shows clearly that all forms of BDS only target the occupation and the settlements, and all activities against BDS are aimed at protecting the illegal settlements and the occupation from criticism.

So you've never heard of the academic boycott of all Israeli professors, whether left or rightwing? Or boycotting Mattisyahu? Which you supported BTW. Mondoweiss supports both the academic boycott & that against Mattisyahu. These examples point to pure antisemitism.

If you disagree, why don't you show me examples of BDS targeting Israeli companies that are not connected to the settlements and the occupation, or show me examples of attempts to counter BDS that don't include the settlements as "Israel"?

You can find attempts to counter BDS with Obama and Bernie Sanders. Neither is for the occupation or settlements but they're against BDS and admit the movement is antisemitic.

We've been over this before, so why are you pretending otherwise?