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ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
37. You don't have to eat rice and beans all the time.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 12:05 AM
Sep 2013

That is outdated information--the idea that you have to combine certain foods to form complete proteins. If you have them within several days, it's still okay. Lots of plant based foods contain protein--even pasta and potatoes, and no, it isn't inferior protein to the kind found in animal foods--it's just as good or even better.

Sorry but milk isn't such a great food: dairy is related to hormone-influenced cancers like of the breast and prostate. All animal proteins attack the body in various ways over time, like slow poisons. And the animal fats are also not good for us. I know I sound like a radical, but I am convinced that our bodies were designed to consume primarily fruits, vegetables and grains, and everything else makes us sick eventually, if we eat too much of it.

The American diet is too high in fat, protein and sugar, and we have health epidemics of obesity, diabetes, etc. to show for it.

Recommended reading: The Starch Solution by John McDougall, Forks over Knives, and these guys (The Engine 2 guys) have a very tasty approach to plant-based eating with great recipes that will satisfy: http://www.amazon.com/Beef-Meat-Healthiest-Plant-Strong-ebook/dp/B00AG0VMTC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1380425510&sr=8-2&keywords=engine+2+diet+cookbook Their recipes will appeal to kids who are used to standard American dishes.

There is an endless variety of recipes you can find in cookbooks and on the web. www.vegweb.com is a good one for starters. I don't have time to try all the good ones I see! Last night we had "beefsteak" fajitas made with whole wheat tortillas, portabella mushrooms cooked and cut into strips and seasoned so they tasted meaty like steak, with onion and bell pepper slices and shredded cabbage. We had brown rice to go with it, and some corn chowder made with frozen corn, a can of green chiles and non-dairy milk.

The funniest thing about becoming a vegan is how other people always think we are depriving ourselves. It's anything but a diet of deprivation-- it is delicious! You just learn to add other things when you take out the animal products. I will say, though, that there is a period of "withdrawal" when you go vegetarian--maybe 3-4 weeks, where you will miss the old foods. But that goes away and you really begin to enjoy the new way. I did it a little bit slower. I gave up red meat first, then about 10 years later gave up the chicken and dairy all at once. Still ate fish about every two weeks. But now, two years later, I'm even tapering off on that--just not enjoying it very much anymore.

When you say 'meat loving' what do you mean? What are your typical meals like? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #1
Veggie-burgers, Cereal, roasted & grilled veggies & fruit, Show orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #2
They are 10 and 7 Taverner Sep 2013 #4
Don't under estimate the connect the dots of a child . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #16
When you find out, please let me know. Laffy Kat Sep 2013 #3
It's very simple... RevStPatrick Sep 2013 #5
LOL Taverner Sep 2013 #6
Enter a monastery. Deep13 Sep 2013 #7
How is the meat industry subsidized? Bay Boy Sep 2013 #18
The government pays them. Deep13 Sep 2013 #23
Do they directly subsidize Bay Boy Sep 2013 #24
I don't know the mechanics of it. nt Deep13 Sep 2013 #25
King Corn, an excellent documentary about how govt subsidizes corn CrispyQ Sep 2013 #34
Feed them corn which is heavily subsidized instead of grazing. dkf Sep 2013 #27
Recipes, recipes, recipes. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #8
If you figure it out... Tien1985 Sep 2013 #9
MorningStar Farms, Boca and Quoran (sp) USAF Brat Sep 2013 #10
Yes, the (sp) for the third one is Quorn :) kentauros Sep 2013 #21
As a "transitioner" I can attest Gardein brand. I have been taste testing them all VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #26
You can't exist without causing misery to animals... Bay Boy Sep 2013 #11
There's always one in every crowd. n/t flvegan Sep 2013 #14
Lol newfie11 Sep 2013 #20
Web recipes.. pangaia Sep 2013 #12
For me, it was shifting meal planning from a dominant meat to a grain or legume with some meat. libdem4life Sep 2013 #13
Try doing it slowly, gradually. flvegan Sep 2013 #15
Progress Not Perfection Sanddog42 Sep 2013 #17
baby steps seems like a good plan. noamnety Sep 2013 #19
Gradually, worked for me and my family. Big Blue Marble Sep 2013 #22
bravo! ginnyinWI Sep 2013 #38
Short answer: slowly. Warpy Sep 2013 #28
Eating Well magazine and its web site have lots of good ideas. grasswire Sep 2013 #29
As others have said, do it gradually. SheilaT Sep 2013 #30
How vegetarian are we talking? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #31
read "diet for a new america" by john robbins veganlush Sep 2013 #32
Thanks for giving it a try YankeyMCC Sep 2013 #33
Do some research. athena Sep 2013 #35
My problem with veganism isn't just the taste, but that you really have to work for your protein Taverner Sep 2013 #36
You don't have to eat rice and beans all the time. ginnyinWI Sep 2013 #37
Protein is not a problem for vegans. athena Sep 2013 #40
my daughter even makes a vegan cheese with cashews. ginnyinWI Sep 2013 #39
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