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30. "without much of a change in inflation"
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 10:19 PM
Jan 2022

From your #20:

Once again, slowing economic growth without much of a change in inflation, is by definition, stagflation. Period.

We've already discussed your error in calling "slowing economic growth" as one of the defining characteristics of stagflation. That would mean, for example, a change from an 8% growth rate to a 6% growth rate -- which is slowing economic growth -- is stagflation if accompanied by, to use your words, "without much of a change in inflation"

Nobody considers a 6% growth rate as stagnant economic growth, or "stagflation" if accompanied by some inflation characteristic.

To be clear, you can have stagflation if you have declining economic growth, AND the economic growth is at a low level or negative, along with some inflation characteristic that we're getting into next. Or you can have stagflation even if economic growth is rising, as long as it is still at a low level.

Rather, in this post, I am questioning your 2nd part of your definition of stagflation:

"without much of a change in inflation"

Who told you that? When we studied stagflation in an economics class, it was high inflation, and particularly when the inflation rate was rising.

But to you, weak economic growth with say a constant 1% inflation rate is stagflation because it is "without much of a change in inflation"

I doubt there is any economist that agrees with you that "without much change of inflation" is a defining characteristic of stagflation.

"Stagflation": does not mean stagnant inflation. But oh well.

And currently, inflation is clearly rising, not "without much change".

Can you name a single economist that characterizes the current U.S. economic situation as stagflation, or nearing stagflation?

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Once Again WHITT Jan 2022 #1
We are in essentially zero danger of stagflation unblock Jan 2022 #2
Hmmm WHITT Jan 2022 #3
Yup, GDP growth in 2020 was minus 3.5% progree Jan 2022 #4
Well 2020 sucked, no doubt. But 2021 was huge. unblock Jan 2022 #5
I'm Afraid WHITT Jan 2022 #8
well that's certainly convincing and persuasive... unblock Jan 2022 #10
According To The NBER WHITT Jan 2022 #11
that's correct, except that the economy is already larger than it was before covid hit. unblock Jan 2022 #15
Non Sequitur WHITT Jan 2022 #21
The 2 years combined come to a 0.89%/year growth rate (compare to 2.46%/yr pre-pandemic) progree Jan 2022 #14
if we do a similar analysis for inflation, unblock Jan 2022 #16
Actually I was thinking of adding to my #14 that I do the same thing for inflation -- progree Jan 2022 #17
"Normal" is a different question unblock Jan 2022 #18
And I think we are mostly bouncing back from last year's plunge progree Jan 2022 #19
It's just really hard to justify near-zero rates when the economy is up around 5% for the year. unblock Jan 2022 #6
... WHITT Jan 2022 #7
current estimate is it goes to around 1.0% by the end of 2022: unblock Jan 2022 #9
Eh WHITT Jan 2022 #12
uh, no, you had it right earlier unblock Jan 2022 #13
Wrong WHITT Jan 2022 #20
... unblock Jan 2022 #22
Yep WHITT Jan 2022 #23
There was only one quarter of decline in GDP, Q2 2020, which was followed in Q3 by PLUS 33.8% progree Jan 2022 #24
I'm Afraid You're Doubly Confused WHITT Jan 2022 #26
Aww, the very selective quote technique. And no, "decline" and "slowing" are not the same progree Jan 2022 #29
The Non Sequiturs Abound WHITT Jan 2022 #33
A decline in gdp is a simple definition of a recession unblock Jan 2022 #25
No WHITT Jan 2022 #27
Ok, so the employment factors nber considers are unblock Jan 2022 #28
"without much of a change in inflation" progree Jan 2022 #30
"A slowing economy without any significant reduction in inflation is, by definition, stagflation" progree Jan 2022 #31
The Non Sequiturs Abound WHITT Jan 2022 #32
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