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In reply to the discussion: Hawkish Fed signals it may have to raise rates sooner to fight inflation [View all]progree
(11,499 posts)30. "without much of a change in inflation"
From your #20:
Once again, slowing economic growth without much of a change in inflation, is by definition, stagflation. Period.
We've already discussed your error in calling "slowing economic growth" as one of the defining characteristics of stagflation. That would mean, for example, a change from an 8% growth rate to a 6% growth rate -- which is slowing economic growth -- is stagflation if accompanied by, to use your words, "without much of a change in inflation"
Nobody considers a 6% growth rate as stagnant economic growth, or "stagflation" if accompanied by some inflation characteristic.
To be clear, you can have stagflation if you have declining economic growth, AND the economic growth is at a low level or negative, along with some inflation characteristic that we're getting into next. Or you can have stagflation even if economic growth is rising, as long as it is still at a low level.
Rather, in this post, I am questioning your 2nd part of your definition of stagflation:
"without much of a change in inflation"
Who told you that? When we studied stagflation in an economics class, it was high inflation, and particularly when the inflation rate was rising.
But to you, weak economic growth with say a constant 1% inflation rate is stagflation because it is "without much of a change in inflation"
I doubt there is any economist that agrees with you that "without much change of inflation" is a defining characteristic of stagflation.
"Stagflation": does not mean stagnant inflation. But oh well.
And currently, inflation is clearly rising, not "without much change".
Can you name a single economist that characterizes the current U.S. economic situation as stagflation, or nearing stagflation?
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Hawkish Fed signals it may have to raise rates sooner to fight inflation [View all]
progree
Jan 2022
OP
that's correct, except that the economy is already larger than it was before covid hit.
unblock
Jan 2022
#15
The 2 years combined come to a 0.89%/year growth rate (compare to 2.46%/yr pre-pandemic)
progree
Jan 2022
#14
Actually I was thinking of adding to my #14 that I do the same thing for inflation --
progree
Jan 2022
#17
It's just really hard to justify near-zero rates when the economy is up around 5% for the year.
unblock
Jan 2022
#6
There was only one quarter of decline in GDP, Q2 2020, which was followed in Q3 by PLUS 33.8%
progree
Jan 2022
#24
Aww, the very selective quote technique. And no, "decline" and "slowing" are not the same
progree
Jan 2022
#29