I especially noticed this:
"It really doesn't matter what the precinct machines vote count is,when State tabulation is where the fraud occurs."
We have to look for the fraud up the chain of 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting, to the central tabulators, to the state (and sometimes to adjacent states)!
This also is notable:
"The question is why both political parties will not agree to an audit-able verified tabulation system?"
It totally blew my mind when I realized that our Democratic Party leadership was going along with 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting. I don't think I've ever been so shocked by a political act (and that's saying something).
At first I felt so goddamned alone! I felt utterly abandoned by the leaders of the party that I had been loyal to, and voted for, and donated to, and worked for, for half a century. And then I thought: "All right then, we're on our own. We, the people of the United States, have no one protecting our interests. We have to do it ourselves."
Maybe that's a good thing to learn. This is OUR country. This is OUR democracy. And this is OUR voting system, by which we transfer a portion of OUR sovereignty, temporarily, to our government representatives, to act in our interests. WE must restore transparent vote counting. WE must restore our own sovereignty. No one in office is going to do it for us.
I soon realized also that I was not alone. A whole lot of wonderful people were going through the same realization. In fact, one of our first gatherings was here at DU in the old election fraud forum. But, my Lord, it was a chilling moment for me, before I realized that there were others and sought them out.
Just in case you don't know: The Anthrax Congress, which did this to us (fast-tracked 'TRADE SECRET' voting counting all over the U.S.), did NOT mandate 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting. This coup d'etat was engineered by corrupt lobbying. There is NO federal law that we have to use these machines to vote (not yet anyway). Power over the voting system still resides at the local/state level, where ordinary people have more potential power. (For instance, your local county registrar of voters might live right down the street from you.) Thus, it is still possible to throw these machines into 'Boston Harbor' (so to speak) at the state/local level. But it will take a widespread citizen movement, all over the country.
I tell you this because it gives me hope--and that is hard to come by, once you realize how rigged, and how riggable, the election system has become. There IS a way to reverse this horror!
I should also say that everyone should STILL VOTE--for several reasons, but primarily because we should never, ever, EVER give up on our right to vote. The other reasons have to do with how the system is being played by the riggers. A big turnout, for instance, forces them more into the open. They have to take more risks and arouse more suspicions. So I am FOR voting, despite what I know about the system. But voting alone is not enough. We have to restore vote counting to the PUBLIC venue. And only then will we have a fighting chance at critically needed reforms.
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