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eniwetok

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33. if Dems wanted to increase the voter turnout...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

The US has perhaps the worst voter turnout in the modern industrial world. In off year elections about 35% of the voting age population (VAP) votes and about 50-55% in presidential years. This isn't because of GOP voter suppression but because unlike modern democracies, our electoral and political systems are antidemocratic. As a progressive I can vote forever and never get representation for my beliefs as I could in a true multiparty parliamentary system. Our system punishes some voters by throwing elections to a plurality candidate... through the so-called spoiler effect. In presidential elections someone like Bush REJECTED by the People can be installed as President. The federal government is antidemocratic by design... and it's virtually impossible to amend the Constitution. Depending on how the states vote... an amendment can be passed by states with a mere 40% of the population or stopped by states with as little as 4%. I could go on but the point is if Dems really wanted more to vote, they'd fix the system and make elections and the political process relevant to all citizens. But they don't. And because of it we'll continue to have our 35-55% VAP turnout while other nations are in the 80% range.

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They don't. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #1
You're right, elleng Nov 2015 #2
Exactly My Point Yallow Nov 2015 #3
They understand all right. Baobab May 2016 #42
Status quo. That is the only game either party plays. Why no change in hackable voting machines? LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #5
Exactly. You will NEVER see anything but a Republican House and Senate.. MrWendel Nov 2015 #4
I Didn't Even Mention Gerrymandering Yallow Nov 2015 #7
Don Siegelman Won His Elections - Was Jailed For Complaining About Being Screwed Yallow Nov 2015 #6
Democrats are not and have never "ignored" voter supression. Nitram Nov 2015 #8
New election laws are needed. And especially ones that with by pass the "States Rights" MrWendel Nov 2015 #9
Looking towards 2016 election, Wellstone ruled Nov 2015 #10
Way too late to fix 2016. jeff47 Nov 2015 #12
There are legal ways of preventing Wellstone ruled Nov 2015 #14
Hillaryt Clinton has advocated some really good voting rights proposal Gothmog Nov 2015 #11
Make Fighting Voter Suppression Priority #1 Instead Of Priority #51 Yallow Nov 2015 #16
just what are voting rights for all? eniwetok Mar 2016 #35
The senate was designed that way... Agschmid Mar 2016 #37
I know... eniwetok Mar 2016 #38
Because then we'd win. And once we win, those pesky voters expect results. jeff47 Nov 2015 #13
/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Nov 2015 #19
That is very well put, isn't it. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #29
The Left doesn't control the media. toddwv Nov 2015 #15
If The Left Shut Down The Government To Bring Voting Rights To Folks Yallow Nov 2015 #17
Sure, we'd hear about it. toddwv Nov 2015 #18
How Democrats Suppress The Vote Stellar Nov 2015 #20
if Dems wanted to increase the voter turnout... eniwetok Mar 2016 #33
We could have started by not gutting the VRA... But we missed the boat on that one. Agschmid Mar 2016 #34
the VRA never guaranteed civic equality in the vote eniwetok Mar 2016 #39
The VRA would have absolutely stopped what happened in AZ from happening. Agschmid Mar 2016 #40
I know a progressive group focused on voting rights Alison Hartson Nov 2015 #21
Looking for groups that support Voter Registration in Red States SleeplessinSeattle55 Feb 2017 #44
Both parties gerrymander, but Republicans suppress votes. SaveTheMackerel Feb 2016 #22
Dems vs GOPers eniwetok Mar 2016 #31
Well... V 4 C C i IN E Mar 2016 #23
super delegates eniwetok Mar 2016 #30
Agree Rparker123 Mar 2016 #24
not that arbitary eniwetok Mar 2016 #28
It may be arbitrary but its the same rule for all Travis_0004 Mar 2016 #32
the bigger question is why do Dems ignore civic inequality in the vote? eniwetok Mar 2016 #25
Thank you. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #26
Those who don't vote and let the repubs take over states are partly to blame. upaloopa Mar 2016 #27
I've been asking this question a loooooooong time! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #36
Retail caging PATRICK Apr 2016 #41
two things clarkkentvotes Sep 2016 #43
TAXPAYER_VOTERID Asa Gordon Feb 2017 #45
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