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Denzil_DC

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17. Cummings tweets gnomically:
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 08:16 AM
Sep 2019



Odyssean Project
@OdysseanProject

The central claim (that withdrawal requires further legislation) is wrong.


So ...

(1) Cummings obviously knows better than 11 Supreme Court judges.

(2) That isn't the central claim in the judgment at all, as the Guardian liveblog points out:

He seems to be referring to this passage in the summary (pdf) of the supreme court’s judgment (bold text inserted by me).

This prolonged suspension of parliamentary democracy took place in quite exceptional circumstances: the fundamental change which was due to take place in the Constitution of the United Kingdom on 31st October. Parliament, and in particular the House of Commons as the elected representatives of the people, has a right to a voice in how that change comes about. The effect upon the fundamentals of our democracy was extreme.

This passage does not say that Brexit requires further legislation. It says that parliament wants to have a say, which is not the same thing.


(3) A central plank of Keen's case at the Supreme Court (and repeated claims by Johnson and others in or near government who seem to have forgotten the script today) was that prorogation had nothing to do with Brexit, but was simply to prepare for the Queen's Speech.

(4) Withdrawal definitely does need further legislation, even if it's to happen on 31 October as Johnson still plans. It was one of the corners prorogation boxed Johnson and Cummings into.

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You beat me to it Soph Myrddin Sep 2019 #1
Boris is going to try and prorogue again I think... Soph0571 Sep 2019 #7
Ummm... Wasn't the Brexit vote hacked too? MartyTheGreek Sep 2019 #2
There's no evidence it was hacked. n/t Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #3
There is no evidence it was hacked, no. But I and many others Ghost Dog Sep 2019 #20
Yes, that's a very valid point, and you've every right to be angry about it. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #22
The Electoral Commission (toothless as it generally is) has been looking into this: Denzil_DC Oct 2019 #28
Thanks. These are natural allies Ghost Dog Oct 2019 #29
GOP and FOX say Meddled, Whistle Blower of Mercer's CA Operation says Manipulated... MartyTheGreek Sep 2019 #24
"Hacked" has a specific meaning. There's no evidence of hacking in the UK referendum. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #25
Brexit vote was influenced by illegal money sharedvalues Sep 2019 #13
Link to The Guardian UK News live feed: CottonBear Sep 2019 #4
Thanks! Soph0571 Sep 2019 #8
You're welcome and good luck! CottonBear Sep 2019 #15
Judging by the frothing on social media and in some of the RW press, Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #5
Indeed - however I have hope for our democracy today! Soph0571 Sep 2019 #6
Amber Rudd on Twitter: Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #9
The night of the long knives... Soph0571 Sep 2019 #10
I just wish the bastards in this clowncar would settle down for a while. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #11
I have already decided that NO WORK will get done today.. Soph0571 Sep 2019 #12
I've hit a serious work glitch anyway. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #14
One thing about the hate-mongers ... LeftishBrit Sep 2019 #27
From Sky News's Sam Coates: Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #16
Cummings tweets gnomically: Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #17
Re. your point (3), Denzil_DC, see 19 below. nt Ghost Dog Sep 2019 #21
Yup. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #23
Cummings has apparently dragged himself away from his bottle of plonk for a minute Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #18
Another de Pfeffel-Johnson blatant lie exposed, then: Ghost Dog Sep 2019 #19
Three cheers for the rule of law! LeftishBrit Sep 2019 #26
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