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Intractable

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8. Sorry, that doesn't work on me.

Thu May 22, 2025, 06:21 AM

May 22

Sure, they exaggerated. Anyone can see that.

But what of all the lies Bibi told. The ethnic cleansing of Gaza was the plan from the start.

It's a shame two people were killed at the museum. 50,000 dead in Gaza.

From Google:

Here's a summary of the casualties based on reports:

Gaza: Over 50,000 Palestinians have been reported killed in Gaza since October 2023, with the total number including those presumed dead under rubble potentially exceeding 61,700.
West Bank: In the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, reports indicate that at least 905 Palestinians have been killed, including 181 children, since October 2023.

Reliability and Controversy:

Gaza Health Ministry Figures: The Gaza Health Ministry (GHM) is a primary source for casualty figures in Gaza. Their figures are cited by various organizations, including the UN and media outlets.

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Debunked: UN official's claim 14,000 Gazan babies could die in 48 hours was untrue [View all] lapucelle May 21 OP

what a shock. AZLD4Candidate May 21 #1

I'm sure that any moment now... Richard D May 22 #3

Apologies for the plan to wipe Gaza off the face of the map? iemanja May 22 #4

Apologies by the UN for their spokesman spreading propaganda. lapucelle May 22 #10

Apologies for lending unconditional support for incompetent lying leaders at the UN. Beastly Boy May 22 #13

Wow. Richard D May 22 #16

My post is supposedly deplorable iemanja May 22 #25

Delusional Richard D May 22 #31

There is a genocide of 2 million people happening as we speak iemanja May 24 #100

There is not. Richard D May 25 #108

Netanyahu has sworn to take over all of Gaza iemanja May 25 #110

I know you believed... Richard D May 25 #112

I didn't comment on that thread, so I didn't necessarily believe or disbelieve it iemanja May 25 #115

What is it then ? Old Testament Libera May 25 #113

It is far from a "one-sided war" Richard D May 25 #114

If peace had a chance before Oct 7 iemanja May 25 #116

Peace never had a chance. Old Testament Libera May 25 #117

for this topic, this is a strawman. This is about the UN lying, not Israel. Please stick to the topic AZLD4Candidate May 22 #18

I am on topic iemanja May 22 #21

No, I want to keep the discussion on the topic of the OP. You are trying to muddy the waters. AZLD4Candidate May 22 #69

Hey, you know, when the facts don't fit the narrative, MarineCombatEngineer May 22 #70

Agree. It seems the tenor of the argument is "I don't care where the information comes from or if it's been debunked, AZLD4Candidate May 22 #71

Naturally you want to ignore the mass murder of 2 million people iemanja May 24 #101

Proof of mass murder or unfortunate casulities of a war their elected government started? AZLD4Candidate May 31 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja May 22 #24

Video after video of little kids just eating flat bread womanofthehills May 31 #119

K&R rollin74 May 21 #2

What number of starving babies is acceptable? Intractable May 22 #5

Sorry, that doen't work on me. This story is about a UN official making a fabulist claim lapucelle May 22 #6

Sorry, that doesn't work on me. Intractable May 22 #8

How interesting to frame fabulist propaganda as an "exaggeration" lapucelle May 22 #11

Post removed Post removed May 22 #12

How does counting dead babies mitigate pervasive lies and incompetence coming from UN? Beastly Boy May 22 #14

You tried that already. It didn't work. lapucelle May 22 #17

You think you won an argument? Intractable May 22 #29

There is no argument to win because you are not making an argument. lapucelle May 22 #56

At this point, you are just trying to up your post count. Yes, the UN lied. Intractable May 22 #64

Oh, what the hell... lapucelle May 22 #57

Quit the propaganda iemanja May 22 #23

Delusional Richard D May 22 #67

That line is best directed at the UN spokesman who spread his fabulist propaganda on a BBC radio show, lapucelle May 22 #72

Boom. 💙🌈 Cha May 22 #79

How do you feel about Netanyahu's announcement that he will take over all of Gaza iemanja May 25 #111

And that happened here in the US JustAnotherGen May 22 #37

a legitimate claim with the wrong time line stillcool May 22 #52

At best, it's a fabulist lie. At worst it's outright propaganda lapucelle May 22 #58

the demographic? The prognosis? stillcool May 22 #60

The UN propagandist named the demographic as "babies" lapucelle May 22 #66

What number of outright lies by UN officials is acceptable to you? lapucelle May 22 #7

None. But they are all lying, aren't they? Intractable May 22 #9

UN is lying and using fake death numbers. Like the lies from Hamas, they are discrediting themselves and your own posts Beastly Boy May 22 #15

None of this is okay with me. That's why Israel has to stop. They are creating the next generation of hate Intractable May 22 #30

Israel has to stop because UN is lying? Beastly Boy May 22 #47

Israel has to stop the war -- period. D'uh! Intractable May 22 #65

I notice you didn't say anything about HAMAs stopping the war, MarineCombatEngineer May 22 #68

Israel are genocidal madmen. Hamas are righteous freedom fighters. AZLD4Candidate May 22 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author PufPuf23 May 23 #91

And there it is, MarineCombatEngineer May 22 #19

You are saying the UN lied. If so, then what is the correct number? Intractable May 22 #27

I just made an observation that you're trying like hell to distract from the actual thread MarineCombatEngineer May 22 #34

Again, you are impertinent. Intractable May 22 #36

If you think I'm impertinent, then don't read my posts or use the ignore function on DU. MarineCombatEngineer May 22 #39

"never mind, your definitely not worth my time." Intractable May 22 #40

Walking away from a rabbit hole and someone using failing to see things as debunked does win an argument AZLD4Candidate May 22 #74

Zero, but what number of brazen, lying UN officials is acceptable? Mysterian May 22 #20

I see. So, dead babies are acceptable, but UN lies are not. Gotcha. Intractable May 22 #26

What part of "zero" did you not understand? Mysterian May 22 #28

I wrote "none" also. But that was above. It's okay if you don't read everything, yes? Intractable May 22 #33

Your post does not cogently reply to mine Mysterian May 22 #35

Please read the upthread. Nothing new is happening here. Intractable May 22 #38

One or more. Kid Berwyn May 24 #94

They got their intifada globalized. Richard D May 22 #22

The UN claim was wrong, lying is wrong. gab13by13 May 22 #32

Why immediately jump to believe they were lying? AloeVera May 22 #44

What do you call saying one thing one day Beastly Boy May 22 #53

29 kids and elderly starved to death in recent days. On top of the 57 children already starved since the siege began. AloeVera May 22 #41

"propagandizing the UN mistake is disturbing and serves Netanyahu's agenda of ridding Palestinians from Gaza" Intractable May 22 #43

This thread is about a patently false claim made by a UN official. lapucelle May 22 #45

Actually the good thing is that there may not be 14,100 children in danger of immediately dying. AloeVera May 22 #48

Better, there may not be 24,200 children in danger of dying. Beastly Boy May 22 #63

They seize on one inccorrect public statement iemanja May 24 #102

That it is. A well-worn tactic, as I said in post #44. AloeVera May 22 #46

The only distraction is your constant vilifying Israel when it was HAMAs that started this whole current shitshow. MarineCombatEngineer May 22 #50

In that case you might want to remove the rec on my post. AloeVera May 22 #54

A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes Jose Garcia May 22 #42

And that was back in the 1800's. madaboutharry May 22 #76

The UN seems to have problems with numbers. republianmushroom May 22 #49

The UN's Humanitarian Chief had the numbers right stillcool May 22 #51

Killer post. AloeVera May 22 #55

thanks... stillcool May 22 #73

I did not realize "malnutrition" & "dying" were the same thing EX500rider May 22 #77

Whenever Israel is mentioned, causing a bad hair day could be considered a war crime to some. AZLD4Candidate May 22 #78

I once answered a help wanted ad. It promised compensation of $14,000 for 48 hours of work. Beastly Boy May 23 #88

Nuance can easily become a weapon Torchlight May 22 #59

There may well be 14,000 kids in danger of dying. AloeVera May 22 #61

In that article, they claim statements from world food organizations, yet only quote people involved in the Hamas-led AZLD4Candidate May 22 #75

Hamas was elected 19 years ago, with financial support from Israel iemanja May 24 #103

Oct 7th doesn't matter because is' Israel. Dec 7th didn't matter because it was us. AZLD4Candidate May 25 #106

Does the Times of Israel count as a source? iemanja May 25 #109

Yup the UN messed up then later Eko May 22 #62

They messed up, then blamed Israel, created a shitstorm in the media, and only then clarified their mistake Beastly Boy May 23 #81

There are mistakes and then there are mistakes. Eko May 23 #82

Ah, adeflection! How ordinary! Beastly Boy May 23 #83

You call it a deflection. Eko May 23 #84

Sure. You also call lying a "mistake" Beastly Boy May 23 #85

Neither you nor I have any idea if it was a lie or a mistake. Eko May 23 #86

"I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt" Beastly Boy May 23 #87

If you didn't want to answer the question you could have just let it alone Eko May 23 #89

I don't want to answer your question, and I want you to know I am not going to. Letting it alone will not do it for me. Beastly Boy May 23 #90

Cant anwser a simple yes or no question, got it. Eko May 24 #95

Ok, now you are telling me what you think my reason is... right after I told you what my reason was. Beastly Boy May 24 #96

I guess you have the super power to tell if someone is lying and I have the superpower to figure out what someone means. Eko May 24 #97

Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out what someone plainly put in writing prior to being second-guessed. Beastly Boy May 25 #104

no, you are really good about claims. Eko May 25 #105

If you want to talk about a strawman I suggest you address this first. Eko May 25 #107

Regardless of number or timeline, many Gazan children PufPuf23 May 23 #92

Is this your reason for excusing the UN lies? Beastly Boy May 24 #93

Why so cavalier about dead children and others severely scarred for life? PufPuf23 May 24 #98

Are you saying your post was completely beside the point that was brought up in the OP? Beastly Boy May 24 #99