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In reply to the discussion: Stephen Miller says Trump administration is 'actively looking at' suspending habeas corpus [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(165,207 posts)24. Prof. Vladeck has some good analysis on the reason for this stunt/threat
Miller and trump are trying to intimidate the courts into ruling their way to avoid having habeas corpus suspended. trump and Miller have been taking actions that seem designed to piss off the cours.
Link to tweet
https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/148-suspending-habeas-corpus
Fifth, and finally, Miller gives away the game when he says “a lot of it depends on whether the courts do the right thing or not.” It’s not just the mafia-esque threat implicit in this statement (“I’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse”); it’s that he’s telling on himself: He’s suggesting that the administration would (unlawfully) suspend habeas corpus if (but apparently only if) it disagrees with how courts rule in these cases. In other words, it’s not the judicial review itself that’s imperiling national security; it’s the possibility that the government might lose. That’s not, and has never been, a viable argument for suspending habeas corpus. Were it otherwise, there’d be no point to having the writ in the first place—let alone to enshrining it in the Constitution.
If the goal is just to try to bully and intimidate federal judges into acquiescing in more unlawful activity by the Trump administration, that’s shameful enough. But suggesting that the President can unilaterally cut courts out of the loop solely because they’re disagreeing with him is suggesting that judicial review—indeed, that the Constitution itself—is just a convenience. Something tells me that even federal judges and justices who might otherwise be sympathetic to the government’s arguments on the merits in some of these cases will be troubled by the implication that their authority depends entirely upon the President’s beneficence.
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It’s certainly possible that this doesn’t go anywhere. Indeed, I hope that turns out to be true. But Miller’s comments strike me as a rather serious ratcheting up of the anti-court rhetoric coming out of this administration—and an ill-conceived one at that.
If the goal is just to try to bully and intimidate federal judges into acquiescing in more unlawful activity by the Trump administration, that’s shameful enough. But suggesting that the President can unilaterally cut courts out of the loop solely because they’re disagreeing with him is suggesting that judicial review—indeed, that the Constitution itself—is just a convenience. Something tells me that even federal judges and justices who might otherwise be sympathetic to the government’s arguments on the merits in some of these cases will be troubled by the implication that their authority depends entirely upon the President’s beneficence.
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It’s certainly possible that this doesn’t go anywhere. Indeed, I hope that turns out to be true. But Miller’s comments strike me as a rather serious ratcheting up of the anti-court rhetoric coming out of this administration—and an ill-conceived one at that.
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Stephen Miller says Trump administration is 'actively looking at' suspending habeas corpus [View all]
highplainsdem
May 9
OP
This nonsense will continue until it turns against Republican constituencies. /nt
bucolic_frolic
May 9
#2
So anyone want to argue with me (again) that Miller is not more President than Trump on these issues?
hlthe2b
May 9
#3
I wonder who at Heritage Foundation is Millers ear worm? Was it his parents that instilled such hate?
LiberalArkie
May 9
#10
I'm going to do a separate thread on Miller, who I think many underestimate how dangerous he is...
hlthe2b
May 9
#19
If habeas corpus is suspended, can true patriots take Miller into custody as an invading Russian agent?
muriel_volestrangler
May 9
#11
Maddow Blog-White House's Stephen Miller: 'We are actively looking at' suspending habeas corpus
LetMyPeopleVote
May 9
#17
"and that a president cannot suspend habeas corpus without authorization from Congress."
riversedge
May 9
#23