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24. Prof. Vladeck has some good analysis on the reason for this stunt/threat
Fri May 9, 2025, 07:57 PM
May 9

Miller and trump are trying to intimidate the courts into ruling their way to avoid having habeas corpus suspended. trump and Miller have been taking actions that seem designed to piss off the cours.



https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/148-suspending-habeas-corpus

Fifth, and finally, Miller gives away the game when he says “a lot of it depends on whether the courts do the right thing or not.” It’s not just the mafia-esque threat implicit in this statement (“I’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse”); it’s that he’s telling on himself: He’s suggesting that the administration would (unlawfully) suspend habeas corpus if (but apparently only if) it disagrees with how courts rule in these cases. In other words, it’s not the judicial review itself that’s imperiling national security; it’s the possibility that the government might lose. That’s not, and has never been, a viable argument for suspending habeas corpus. Were it otherwise, there’d be no point to having the writ in the first place—let alone to enshrining it in the Constitution.

If the goal is just to try to bully and intimidate federal judges into acquiescing in more unlawful activity by the Trump administration, that’s shameful enough. But suggesting that the President can unilaterally cut courts out of the loop solely because they’re disagreeing with him is suggesting that judicial review—indeed, that the Constitution itself—is just a convenience. Something tells me that even federal judges and justices who might otherwise be sympathetic to the government’s arguments on the merits in some of these cases will be troubled by the implication that their authority depends entirely upon the President’s beneficence.

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It’s certainly possible that this doesn’t go anywhere. Indeed, I hope that turns out to be true. But Miller’s comments strike me as a rather serious ratcheting up of the anti-court rhetoric coming out of this administration—and an ill-conceived one at that.

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Impeach............. Lovie777 May 9 #1
This nonsense will continue until it turns against Republican constituencies. /nt bucolic_frolic May 9 #2
So anyone want to argue with me (again) that Miller is not more President than Trump on these issues? hlthe2b May 9 #3
I wonder who at Heritage Foundation is Millers ear worm? Was it his parents that instilled such hate? LiberalArkie May 9 #10
I'm going to do a separate thread on Miller, who I think many underestimate how dangerous he is... hlthe2b May 9 #19
Here we go. orangecrush May 9 #4
What invaders, NAZI boy? Kid Berwyn May 9 #5
Not "looking at" orangecrush May 9 #6
jail CloudWatcher May 9 #8
Happy NAZI is vile. Kid Berwyn May 9 #15
Post removed Post removed May 9 #9
Stephen Miller must suffer from what ails Trump. Kid Berwyn May 9 #16
Rec'd for clarity of visualization WheelWalker May 9 #31
Yes, the invaders have taken the White House, the House and Senate CloudWatcher May 9 #7
Miller should point to where on the doll the invaders hurt him LymphocyteLover May 10 #37
If habeas corpus is suspended, can true patriots take Miller into custody as an invading Russian agent? muriel_volestrangler May 9 #11
"The power to suspend habeas corpus rests with Congress, mzmolly May 9 #12
Stephen, you ignorant slut: mahatmakanejeeves May 9 #13
So this is how liberty dies. With thundrous applause. groundloop May 9 #14
Maddow Blog-White House's Stephen Miller: 'We are actively looking at' suspending habeas corpus LetMyPeopleVote May 9 #17
What the fuck more does he have to do for everyone to recognize Trump Playingmantis May 9 #18
The bigger question is what can we who do recognize this do about it? live love laugh May 9 #28
I wish... 2naSalit May 9 #20
Hah. I don't even have a tongue anymore these days! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E May 10 #36
"The US ..has only suspended habeas corps 4x in the past........ riversedge May 9 #21
Does this portend an "event"? live love laugh May 9 #30
Does anybody but think miller is one of the stupidest f..king idiots? Seriously PortTack May 9 #22
"and that a president cannot suspend habeas corpus without authorization from Congress." riversedge May 9 #23
Not since Lincoln, huh? True Dough May 9 #27
Rec 1000x AKwannabe May 10 #35
Ah, but there's the rub Bayard May 9 #32
Prof. Vladeck has some good analysis on the reason for this stunt/threat LetMyPeopleVote May 9 #24
In case no one noticed they are already doing that, despite court rulings. JohnSJ May 9 #25
There's a direct line choie May 9 #26
we will stop them with our democratic efforts-- we are the sovereigns LymphocyteLover May 10 #38
That's what they said after the Civil War choie May 10 #40
Almost there .... live love laugh May 9 #29
People need to attack the false pretenses under which they're doing this shit. "National emergency"..."a time of Karasu May 10 #33
Fuck. Him. AKwannabe May 10 #34
This is complete fascist bullshit LymphocyteLover May 10 #39
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