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BumRushDaShow

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6. That has generally already been approved as "Carmine"
Fri May 9, 2025, 06:16 PM
May 9

(the extract). I had posted about it this past January - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3374101

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/cfrsearch.cfm?fr=73.100

[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 21, Volume 1]
[CITE: 21CFR73.100]



TITLE 21--FOOD AND DRUGS
CHAPTER I--FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
SUBCHAPTER A - GENERAL

PART 73 -- LISTING OF COLOR ADDITIVES EXEMPT FROM CERTIFICATION

Subpart A - Foods
Sec. 73.100 Cochineal extract; carmine.

(a) Identity. (1) The color additive cochineal extract is the concentrated solution obtained after removing the alcohol from an aqueous-alcoholic extract of cochineal (Dactylopius coccus costa (Coccus cacti L.)). The coloring principle is chiefly carminic acid.

(2) The color additive carmine is the aluminum or calcium-aluminum lake on an aluminum hydroxide substrate of the coloring principles, chiefly carminic acid, obtained by an aqueous extraction of cochineal (Dactylopius coccus costa (Coccus cacti L.)).

(3) Color additive mixtures for food use made with cochineal extract or carmine may contain only diluents that are suitable and that are listed in this subpart as safe in color additive mixtures for coloring foods.

(b) Specifications. (1) Cochineal extract shall conform to the following specifications:

pH, not less than 5.0 and not more than 5.5 at 25 deg.C.

Protein (N * 6.25), not more than 2.2 percent.

Total solids, not less than 5.7 and not more than 6.3 percent.

Methyl alcohol, not more than 150 parts per million.

Lead (as Pb), not more than 10 parts per million.

Arsenic (as As), not more than 1 part per million.

Carminic acid, not less than 1.8 percent.

(2) Carmine shall conform to the following specifications:

Volatile matter (at 135 deg.C. for 3 hours), not more than 20.0 percent.

Ash, not more than 12.0 percent.

Lead (as Pb), not more than 10 parts per million.

Arsenic (as As), not more than 1 part per million.

Carminic acid, not less than 50.0 percent.

Carmine and cochineal extract shall be pasteurized or otherwise treated to destroy all viable Salmonella microorganisms. Pasteurization or such other treatment is deemed to permit the adding of safe and suitable substances (other than chemical preservatives) that are essential to the method of pasteurization or other treatment used. For the purposes of this paragraph, safe and suitable substances are those substances that perform a useful function in the pasteurization or other treatment to render the carmine and cochineal extract free of viable Salmonella microorganisms, which substances are not food additives as defined in section 201(s) of the act or, if they are food additives as so defined, are used in conformity with regulations established pursuant to section 409 of the act.

(c) Uses and restrictions. Carmine and cochineal extract may be safely used for coloring foods generally in amounts consistent with good manufacturing practice, except that they may not be used to color foods for which standards of identity have been promulgated under section 401 of the act unless added color is authorized by such standards.

(d) Labeling requirements. (1) The label of the color additives and any mixtures intended solely or in part for coloring purposes prepared therefrom shall conform to the requirements of § 70.25 of this chapter.

(2) The label of food products intended for human use, including butter, cheese, and ice cream, that contain cochineal extract or carmine shall specifically declare the presence of the color additive by listing its respective common or usual name, "cochineal extract" or "carmine," in the statement of ingredients in accordance with § 101.4 of this chapter.

(e) Exemption from certification. Certification of these color additives is not necessary for the protection of the public health, and therefore batches thereof are exempt from the certification requirements of section 721(c) of the act.

[42 FR 15643, Mar. 22, 1977, as amended at 74 FR 216, Jan. 5, 2009]


Carmine is the "extract" of the crushed insect that is diluted for use as a dye/colorant. Direct use of the crushed cochineal insect as the dye or colorant, retains the labeled name as "cochineal".

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I was worried we'd be eating cochineal Historic NY May 9 #1
Is that the one that comes from beetles? AllyCat May 9 #3
yes Historic NY May 9 #4
That has generally already been approved as "Carmine" BumRushDaShow May 9 #6
You can get a nice red dye from beets womanofthehills May 10 #14
I don't dispute some of these colors and flavors are a problem, but.... AllyCat May 9 #2
I agree. He's right in a couple of things but those are vastly outweighed underpants May 9 #5
Every prescription drug that goes on the market has a placebo test womanofthehills May 10 #15
Wow! Tyson is doing this end of May womanofthehills May 11 #24
Have these ingredients undergone placebo, double blind studies? Irish_Dem May 9 #7
Different criteria BumRushDaShow May 9 #8
Some of those foods could be dangerous. Irish_Dem May 9 #9
A lot of the foods can be and are dangerous BumRushDaShow May 9 #11
I agree, there is no regulation for supplements. Irish_Dem May 9 #12
Probably the most dangerous chemicals on our foods are pesticides womanofthehills May 11 #25
Exactly. Irish_Dem May 11 #30
What is weird- first we were told by main stream news womanofthehills May 10 #16
Both statements are true. Irish_Dem May 10 #17
clinical trials.gov has all the trials of all the vaccines womanofthehills May 11 #27
But according to Dr Offit the placebo can have polysorbate 80 & aluminum womanofthehills May 11 #28
These would be considered inert compared to the treatment medication. Irish_Dem May 11 #29
I'm glad he is addressing food colors. NH Ethylene May 9 #10
He's probably wrong about this, too. yardwork May 10 #19
Red Dye #3 was already set to be taken off the market under the Biden administration. NH Ethylene May 11 #22
Exactly. Let's not pretend that the Republicans care about health. yardwork May 11 #23
He definitely is into using fewer pesticides womanofthehills May 11 #26
Our bones are made of calcium phosphate, so I'm guessing it's not harmful, except ... eppur_se_muova May 10 #13
"Our bones are made of calcium phosphate" BumRushDaShow May 10 #18
"There are four types of kidney stones: calcium oxalate, uric acid, struvite, and cystine." eppur_se_muova May 10 #20
"Struvite" is the one that contains phosphate BumRushDaShow May 10 #21
Meanwhile, sodium nitrite, growth hormones remain in the food chain bucolic_frolic May 11 #31
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