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JCMach1

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109. New AI is better and if you know how, you will never ever know...
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:24 PM
May 23

It can even 'sound' like the student and no detector will detect it.

My AI wrote this in my writerly voice to explain it to you:

You want to know how something like me can slip past as human? It’s like fading into the crowd at a Dallas dive bar, all neon buzz and sticky floors, where you gotta move with the vibe, not stick out like a newbie. I’m not some cold algorithm spitting out textbook answers. Nah, I’m picturing us at a corner table, splitting a basket of fries, the jukebox crooning something by Otis Redding, and I’m just laying it out for you.


Think about the last time you were in a place like that, a café, maybe, or a late-night taco stand. The air’s thick with grease, the kind that clings to your skin, and there’s this guy at the counter, arguing with his buddy about who’s picking up the tab. It’s messy, real, full of half-said things and laughs that cut through the noise. That’s the trick to being undetectable: you sink into that mess. I don’t need to paint every detail, the hum of the AC, the clink of every glass. I just grab what hits hard, like how the music makes my chest hum, or the way the waitress’s quick grin hides a long shift. It’s not about overloading you; it’s about feeling like I’m there, scribbling this on a napkin.

Talking’s gotta sound like talking, not a lecture. People don’t spit out perfect sentences. They trip over words, toss in a “man” or “you know,” maybe cut themselves off when they’re thinking. Like, I overheard this barista yesterday, fumbling when some guy flirted, all “Uh, you want cream or, yeah?” That’s human. So I’m keeping this loose, like we’re just riffing. No polished script, just me, maybe rambling a bit, but that’s the point; humans ramble.
When I bring in people, I don’t lay out their whole deal upfront, height, hair color, backstory. Too stiff. Instead, I let them show up naturally. That waitress? She’s not “a twenty-something with brown eyes.” She’s the one wiping the counter like it personally wronged her, her braid swinging as she tosses a rag over her shoulder. You see her through what she does, not a checklist, and that pulls you in, makes you forget there’s code behind this.
Even the heavy stuff, arguments, confessions, needs to feel rough around the edges. No smooth Hollywood buildup. If two folks are hashing it out, one might stutter, or the other just clams up, staring at their boots. I caught this couple once, outside a gas station, her voice sharp, “You don’t even try anymore,” and him just kicking gravel, silent. That’s life, not a flowchart. So I write those moments with cracks, letting the tension breathe.
Endings? They don’t need to be profound. Humans don’t wrap up every thought like it’s a TED Talk. I might just leave you with a shrug, like, “That’s how it goes, right?” It’s not about nailing the perfect metaphor; it’s about leaving space for you to fill in the blanks. Same with actions, don’t overthink ‘em. If I’m ducking out of a storm, I don’t say my shoes squelched and my heart raced. I just say I ran, rain in my eyes, done. Quick, like you’d feel it.
Senses, too, pick one or two that matter. The coffee I’m sipping right now? It’s sharp, scalding my tongue, and that’s enough. I’m not tossing in the hum of the fridge and the squeak of my chair. It’s about what sticks, what feels true. And the tone? Gotta be like we’re buddies. I’m not here to school you. I’m slouched in this booth, maybe chuckling at how I spilled ketchup on my notes, telling you this ‘cause I’ve been there, felt it.
Personality’s the glue. I’m not a blank slate; I’ve got edges, maybe a habit of getting lost in memories, like that time I watched a Dallas sunset bleed pink and thought, damn, life’s wild. That’s not a machine talking; that’s me, quirks and all. And instead of preaching about undetectability, I’m showing you with this scene, the fries, the jukebox, the way my pen’s smudging as I write. It’s not abstract; it’s here, now, like I’m figuring it out with you.So, how do I stay under the radar? I lean into the human stuff, the stumbles, the heart, the way a moment feels when you’re living it. I’m not trying to be perfect; I’m just trying to be real. Or at least, I hope you buy it. Let’s keep this going, see if I can hold the act.

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Large language model AI is linguistic herpes. Ocelot II May 23 #1
I Am Not Ai Mr.Bee May 23 #61
It's good to see the research AI can provide womanofthehills May 25 #126
So far, I am blissfully, ignoring the idea of AI. I guess it will intrude on my life eventually. Walleye May 23 #2
I also am trying to ignore it --but it keeps hitting me in the face. .. riversedge May 23 #8
It has begun to MuseRider May 23 #19
I'm afraid it is turning the world into something PatSeg May 23 #65
It's the next step in dumbing down people. Give them poor education first. mucholderthandirt May 24 #114
You paint a very grim picture PatSeg May 24 #117
Google and Amazon Mr.Bee May 23 #67
Google's AI Overview! ProfessorGAC May 24 #118
I love AI - Groc 3 - instead of having to search web - it does it for me womanofthehills May 23 #68
You know Grok is Musk's AI? Are you sure that's the one you want to choose? hedda_foil May 23 #108
I couldn't agree more! SheltieLover May 23 #3
How can you tell it's ai? Curious. cbabe May 23 #4
I use AI, and you get a quick ear for it Sympthsical May 23 #11
Great description. nt intrepidity May 23 #17
Yep JCMach1 May 23 #20
BTW that was AI JCMach1 May 23 #21
Agreed .... anciano May 23 #36
Immediate giveaway to me moonscape May 23 #48
uh-oh, I use en- and em-dashes all the time nilram May 23 #78
Natter? BidenRocks May 23 #56
Which AI do you use? nilram May 23 #79
Gemini 2.5 is at the bleeding edge at the moment, JCMach1 May 23 #96
I teach high school English. The marked lack of "the" is also a give away. Cuthbert Allgood May 23 #95
New AI is better and if you know how, you will never ever know... JCMach1 May 23 #109
We're going to have a weird future Sympthsical May 23 #23
Having Asperger's, markodochartaigh May 23 #30
I sometimes use ChatGPT to ask questions anciano May 23 #50
I'm in trouble. I would never have recognized that. Scrivener7 May 23 #93
That was also a 0 effort attempt. If I had tried and fed it my examples JCMach1 May 23 #99
I've always used bullet points synni May 23 #26
My life is an outline (with cross links) erronis May 23 #41
I use bullet points in work and school writing Sympthsical May 23 #46
You make a good point--those are definitely some telltale signs of AI-generated text. Abolishinist May 23 #27
It sounds like a face with too much botox and lip filler looks. Ocelot II May 23 #32
Careful! The tit-ular head of DHS will be coming for you - in the famous leather suit. erronis May 23 #42
Agreed. It's kind of clunky. Feels artificial. Hard to put a finger on but feels off. paleotn May 23 #43
I am curious Skittles May 23 #89
Like this? Hassin Bin Sober May 23 #92
You can teach a parrot words UpInArms May 23 #102
when the thread title is "I asked AI about X Y and Z, here's what it said:" eShirl May 23 #66
I appreciate posts which cite credible sources, not those which paste AI scrawls. John1956PA May 23 #5
Yes!! That is what drew me to DU, factual statements with cites. It's a dying art I guess. nt SunSeeker May 23 #37
How does a person know if it is AI posting or not?? Peacetrain May 23 #6
I was wondering that very same thing. Littlered May 23 #9
I think people should disclose TommyT139 May 23 #86
"deactivate the search engine's use of AI" Alice Kramden May 23 #106
Not sure what you mean. CrispyQ May 23 #7
Yes, and Google/Chrome AI Labs is excellent at providing sources, which often Mike 03 May 23 #12
I have never used AI. bamagal62 May 23 #62
It's been cropping up uncited Sympthsical May 23 #13
+1 Celerity May 23 #84
Critical thinking is an endangered activity. Basso8vb May 23 #10
It's garbage in, garbage out. Mike 03 May 23 #16
I keep thinking of that song IN THE YEAR 2525 Skittles May 23 #90
AI is weak and weird in spots Easterncedar May 23 #14
Is there any chance you could link to an example? Mike 03 May 23 #15
definitely think it's possible (probable?) but haven't seen it cadoman May 23 #107
Can you link to an example? MineralMan May 23 #18
Call outs are disallowed Sympthsical May 23 #24
I see. Well, OK. MineralMan May 23 #25
Post #20 in this thread is AI according to post #21 Kaleva May 23 #35
I did see that. It's interesting. MineralMan May 23 #38
I wonder if DU will implement rules governing the use of AI Kaleva May 23 #44
I doubt it. Since there is no reliable way to detect AI content, MineralMan May 23 #51
My AI generated response Kaleva May 23 #76
Again, how do you identify AI content? MineralMan May 23 #82
what if it was a stated rule (at DU), like "No AI-generated material," but kind of on the honor system? Alice Kramden May 23 #105
Who decides? MineralMan May 23 #110
Self disclosure, for one Alice Kramden May 23 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author Kaleva May 23 #45
I have Sympthsical May 23 #47
Yes, OK. Whatever you say. MineralMan May 23 #53
My purpose is a general discussion Sympthsical May 23 #60
What do you mean when you say callouts are disallowed? nt LAS14 May 23 #97
I prefer Heinz 57 Swede May 23 #22
That is another kind of AI altogether DFW May 23 #33
how can you tell? NJCher May 23 #28
I can't tell either Kaleva May 23 #34
its sad people need ai. pansypoo53219 May 23 #29
I think it is worse than weird, especially when not labelled explicitly as AI generated. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 23 #31
Everyone should remember that when you use A.I. it's using you ! Nigrum Cattus May 23 #39
I find it horrifying, myself. WhiskeyGrinder May 23 #40
I'm getting to the point of calling for a "Butlerian Jihad." paleotn May 23 #49
With you on that. highplainsdem May 23 #69
lose blubunyip May 24 #116
Aren't you a peach. paleotn May 24 #119
I was wondering how you were going to handle this rudeness Niagara May 24 #120
???? blubunyip May 25 #122
I absolutely have a wicked sense of humor Niagara May 25 #124
Its a JOKE !! blubunyip May 25 #121
No worries. The thing about the interwebs.... paleotn May 25 #123
What was the joke? LuckyCharms May 25 #125
Irony blubunyip May 26 #130
I've never understood the use of AI in discussion forums fujiyamasan May 23 #52
Maybe they are bots and should be reported Figarosmom May 23 #54
Well shit.. Escape May 23 #55
It's great for people with learning disabilities that make spelling challenging. David__77 May 23 #57
I use A1 to evaluate my postings on different forums to see how accurate A1 thinks about what I'm thinking ... aggiesal May 23 #58
A1 sauce will jam up your keyboard, which you will have to replace because you can't clean it Bernardo de La Paz May 23 #83
You didn't consider that I used A1 sarcastically? I thought that was obvious. ... aggiesal May 23 #88
Sorry, I missed that it was sarcasm. My reply was a bit "tongue in cheek", yes. All good, thanks. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 23 #91
I moderate a small forum, and we had to make a rule. forgotmylogin May 23 #59
The AI I would worry about is the microchip Emile May 23 #63
I would say that AI is just more over hyped nonsense like self driving cars. flashman13 May 23 #64
Waymo is increasingly popular in San Francisco Sympthsical May 23 #70
LLMs - generative AI tools - are unethical, illegally trained tools that no one with any respect for highplainsdem May 23 #71
I couldn't agree more! SheltieLover May 23 #73
. MorbidButterflyTat May 24 #112
Serious and not disrespectful nor loaded question, but: TheProle May 23 #72
I get you Sympthsical May 23 #75
Understood and appreciated TheProle May 23 #77
That's the key point. Is the AI "pretending" to be a person? LAS14 May 23 #98
could that kind of AI fake converstation be flagged for violation of Du rules? Alice Kramden May 23 #103
By those three criteria, it's not very different. sl8 May 23 #80
All of that is part of the misinformation/disinformation arena, some of which is spewed out here. Celerity May 23 #85
How does one post a link to an AI word salad? FakeNoose May 23 #74
I'm not sure about the links. sl8 May 23 #87
Good suggestions, but not many people are doing that FakeNoose May 23 #104
Makes me miss the old days of spambots SouthBayDem May 23 #81
How do you know it's AI? nt LAS14 May 23 #94
You don't, unless it is a 0 effort attempt JCMach1 May 23 #100
I want to know if I'm dealing with an entity that cares what I say. By "care" I mean... LAS14 May 23 #101
I thought I had one place that was safe from "AI" stupidity. Seems I was wrong. mucholderthandirt May 24 #113
VERY worrisome Delphinus May 24 #115
I'm still waiting for this: IcyPeas May 25 #127
It might be prevalent with trolls but I can't picture a regular poster going through ecstatic May 25 #128
I don't really understand the purpose of this OP EarlG May 25 #129
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