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MadameButterfly

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54. Trump is starting a global economic war

Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:44 AM

Apr 28

and maybe a few real wars here and there: allying with Russia in Ukraine and on to Europe, Panama, Greenland (and Denmark and NATO), and Canada. Our military weaponry is supreme but I don't see our soldiers eager for any of these battles. I don't see him getting away with using our soldiers as cannon fodder like Putin is doing in Ukraine and then expecting them to enforce his illegal orders in the US against Americans peacefully protesting.

Yes, I think Europe, China, and their allies will defeat the US economically and that may take down Trump.

I suspect that half the Republicans in Congress already revile him and his policies but are afraid to act. I think there may come a time when Republicans fear supporting what Trump is doing more than they fear going against Trump. It takes only a handful of Republicans in Congress to turn this around. A larger number protects them from the MAGA brownshirts. Some event, someone with the courage to stand up may be a tipping point.

The NLRB whistleblower is standing up to him and where this goes is important.
Courts are going after him.
Real power in the end is that which can be enforced. When it all plays out, what will the military do? Will they answer to Trump or the constitution? We must make sure at least that they know the difference. We must make sure they know they have a choice.

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Tyrants like Trump always fall - and we can already predict how he will be dethroned [View all] babylonsister Apr 27 OP

Thats all well and good choie Apr 27 #1

That is the important thing Cirsium Apr 27 #35

To the extent that it starts effecting members of congress Javaman Apr 27 #43

Not enough spin doctors to hide the lies & failures. Xi etc. calling his bluff really helps. The rest of us.... dutch777 Apr 27 #2

"...even if we never see the likes of a Trump again." dchill Apr 27 #49

There will have to be major changes in this country. No more guns, no hate speech. mucholderthandirt Apr 28 #64

No Russians. dchill Apr 28 #66

I do hope someone on the Dem side is making a list of legislative changes to limit the future danger dutch777 Apr 29 #67

The grand larceny bus is loaded with monied elites and Trump is driving bucolic_frolic Apr 27 #3

Also, he has a cabinet full of lunatics, frauds & failures. CrispyQ Apr 27 #4

There are only two things, other than death, that could shorten Trump's term Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #5

I would guess ..... #DroolingDon is playing golf at mar a largo and he is hit by a huge bit of space debris Trueblue1968 Apr 27 #34

How? Cirsium Apr 27 #36

It's in the post: dchill Apr 27 #50

and then... Cirsium Apr 28 #53

What about those who don't end in grief? RockCreek Apr 27 #6

South America is full of peacebuzzard Apr 27 #9

Uggh. RockCreek Apr 27 #10

Hitler ended his own after causing over 20 million deaths. Justice matters. Apr 27 #20

Just look at Venezuela. Self Esteem Apr 27 #28

Long or short MadameButterfly Apr 28 #55

Franco and Salazar stayed in power for decades in Spain and Portugal, until ill health or death caught up with them muriel_volestrangler Apr 28 #61

From The Guardian to God's ears---just as soon as possible. (nt) Paladin Apr 27 #7

Diocletian, Henry VIII, Ghengis Khan, Stalin edhopper Apr 27 #8

They were all much smarter and more competent in their evil. Silver Gaia Apr 27 #11

How will Trump fall edhopper Apr 27 #12

If they remain that way, he won't. Silver Gaia Apr 27 #32

Exactly bdamomma Apr 27 #41

And if millions of us don't take sustained, direct action to push those in power to react, they won't react strongly eno Magoo48 Apr 27 #38

Hitler destroyed himself because of his own hubris MadameButterfly Apr 27 #15

His hubris edhopper Apr 27 #16

Do you see another country taking down Trump? usonian Apr 27 #26

Trump is starting a global economic war MadameButterfly Apr 28 #54

It took 12 years to get Hitler out of power. raccoon Apr 27 #46

We cannot let Trump consolidate MadameButterfly Apr 28 #52

There were multiple internal attempts on H's life supposedly around 42 we know of Meowmee Apr 27 #31

The felon is bdamomma Apr 27 #42

Realistically speaking, our only hope is slippery stairs dalton99a Apr 27 #13

Big K&R! UTUSN Apr 27 #14

He'll be dethroned by his own cardiovascular system. Crowman2009 Apr 27 #17

Sure but when? Self Esteem Apr 27 #29

I'd say he's tipping more towards 290 to 300. Joinfortmill Apr 27 #33

I posted some scenarios recently. usonian Apr 27 #18

Stories about corruption are the only ones that will break through to the other side... ihaveaquestion Apr 27 #19

The North Koreans Just Need to Be Patient! TomCADem Apr 27 #21

Just a side note mchill Apr 27 #22

Some very bright journalists have said the same of Trump. LudwigPastorius Apr 27 #23

Riding in a tumbril on the way to the guillotine? yellowcanine Apr 27 #24

IMHO. His own party will turn against him after a sweeping defeat in '26 just to save thieir own sorrry asses. Ping Tung Apr 27 #25

We all know this route is not sustainable. nt Exp Apr 27 #27

They don't say how he will destroy himself though do they? Meowmee Apr 27 #30

Don't go on Youtube, then...... AZ8theist Apr 27 #51

You may be waiting for a long time. OldBaldy1701E Apr 28 #59

Agree 😁 I go to YT for music and watching cats/dogs mostly and other stuff Meowmee Apr 28 #63

I hope when I_UndergroundPanther Apr 27 #37

All respect to The Guardian, but not soon enough, and horrendous damage is already done Hekate Apr 27 #39

The felon bdamomma Apr 27 #40

K & R malaise Apr 27 #44

Bookmarked CitizenZero Apr 27 #45

I'm much more concerned about the "when" than the "how," considering what's already happened in 3 fucking months. Karasu Apr 27 #47

When he finally passes... OhioBack2Blue Apr 27 #48

"drowning in hubris" -- forget that. i'd rather he do a slip and fall and drown in his pool (asap like tomorrow) orleans Apr 28 #56

I Am Somewhat Skeptical CitizenZero Apr 28 #57

A "tyrant-toppling toolbox". I like it! calimary Apr 28 #58

If he ups and dies in office blubunyip Apr 28 #60

The writer is contradicting himself. D23MIURG23 Apr 28 #62

When he's done his job, Project 2025 will take him out. mucholderthandirt Apr 28 #65