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struggle4progress

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11. I agree but when the Israelis gave the Gaza Strip self-government, Gazans chose Hamas

Sun Apr 27, 2025, 12:52 AM

Apr 27

(that is, Iranian-backed death-to-Israel terrorists) who then organized a terrorist attack on innocent civilians, with entirely predictable results

People are responsible for the foreseeable consequences of their actions; and we should suspect the October attacks were planned in the hopes of generating a dreadful response -- since the use of hospitals to stash terrorists and hostages (say) could only result in horror stories

There are potertial solutions but they are all long, difficult, expensive aand dangerous -- and require an almost saintly transcendence from many actors, which is difficult when so many are hurting on all sides or have such deep and stupid ideological commitments

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Dem Voters Overwhelmingly Say U.S. Should Cut Aid to Israel Until It Stops Attacking Civilians [View all] red dog 1 Apr 26 OP

I dispute the assertion that eliminating support for Israel is somehow progressive struggle4progress Apr 26 #1

Strongly concur misanthrope Apr 26 #8

None of that justifies lobbying 2000 lb bombs on people to blow up one person uponit7771 Apr 27 #10

I agree but when the Israelis gave the Gaza Strip self-government, Gazans chose Hamas struggle4progress Apr 27 #11

"Gazans chose Hamas" ... They didn't choose their terrorism... We all know this on DU uponit7771 Apr 27 #12

They didn't choose anything to do with Hamas iemanja Apr 27 #15

This too, thx for the reminder... Hamas has been Gaza's MAGA uponit7771 Apr 27 #21

There hasn't been an election in a generation iemanja Apr 27 #14

With Netanyahu's thumb on the scale Bettie Apr 27 #18

However.... it remains true that Israel is now responsible for Jack Valentino Apr 28 #24

Don't they mean until they stop "killing" civilians? nt Jit423 Apr 26 #2

Right. It's not complicatd. Stop the warmongeting. Israel has gone from... brush Apr 26 #6

A lot of people think they would be better off if their neighbors were gone, from the river to the sea. Lancero Apr 26 #3

And sadly, there are also Israelis who use the same slogan Crunchy Frog Apr 26 #9

Not just some Israelis. That goal is in Likud's Charter. AloeVera Apr 28 #39

Netanyahu barely won back in 2022. Hopefully, on October 27 of next year, Likud will be voted out. red dog 1 Apr 29 #45

I agree with the heading of this post. No more $$$ Trueblue1968 Apr 26 #4

Netanyahu is a war criminal and is facing indictments for fraud and bribery. red dog 1 Apr 26 #5

Hamas has to JustAnotherGen Apr 26 #7

Thanks for that link red dog 1 Apr 27 #20

Then it continues JustAnotherGen Apr 27 #22

Yep, it continues....until Netanyahu is out of office. red dog 1 Apr 28 #23

And Hamas is vanquished JustAnotherGen Apr 28 #30

I'm not "on my own," the Palestinian people are. red dog 1 Apr 28 #31

Where are the Blavk Women? JustAnotherGen Apr 28 #41

Off topic JustAnotherGen Apr 28 #42

And about that time when Israel struck a US warship... Jack Valentino Apr 28 #25

I was starting to think that I was the only one who was still pissed off about that attack. Throw in the........ FadedMullet Apr 28 #27

Agree JustAnotherGen Apr 28 #28

The pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses started in early 2023, long before Kamala Harris was running for POTUS red dog 1 Apr 28 #33

When They See Us JustAnotherGen Apr 28 #40

She probably means protests like this. lapucelle Apr 28 #43

That ship has unfortunately sailed iemanja Apr 27 #13

There is definitely a major divide here fujiyamasan Apr 27 #16

Welcome to DU! red dog 1 Apr 28 #34

Yes, welcome to DU! lapucelle Apr 28 #37

My advice to both sides of this B.See Apr 27 #17

"Kick the war mongers & despots out of your governments." red dog 1 Apr 28 #36

"Military aid" is an understatement. The US bears responsibility for the thousands of children killed by Israeli forces. David__77 Apr 27 #19

... Celerity Apr 28 #38

👍 claudette Apr 28 #26

They are correct malaise Apr 28 #29

There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people. Howard Zinn Ping Tung Apr 28 #32

7 in 10 Dems choosing the solution that has no chance of occurring. maxsolomon Apr 28 #35

YES!!! Sky Jewels Apr 28 #44