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21. If we recover our democracy there will be tens of millions of Americans still within our midst

Reply to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2025, 04:42 PM

Apr 26

who will prefer Trump. And they are every bit Americans by our definition of who gets to call themselves "American". They will be the enemies in the camp among us all, plotting our downfall and willing to play the long game to get it.
Will we be willing to not underestimate them this time, not to be complacent again? To be vigilant this time? Probably not. Our great national sin has been one of pride. We were convinced that the United States was the greatest nation in the world and not the kind of country that the things happening now could ever happen. No, that only happens in lesser nations, not the mighty and powerful United States of America.

Since we really did it to ourselves by not caring enough to be vigilant to keep our Republic (sorry Ben) we should really own it because it never should have happened.

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Say we make it through this with a damaged but intact democracy [View all] Horse with no Name Apr 26 OP

It is my hope that one day Chasstev365 Apr 26 #1

all of them are guilty of treason and should be treated as such. nt Javaman Apr 27 #44

No more moving forward and letting the past be the past MadameButterfly Apr 26 #2

"...but intact democracy." J_William_Ryan Apr 26 #3

There will need to be a new, and successful, reconstruction. Salviati Apr 26 #7

This CitizenZero Apr 26 #16

Yes, we will need a much clearer definition of our freedoms, and a rebalancing of the three branches of power. Magoo48 Apr 26 #32

Trump has destroyed the Presidential System. thought crime Apr 26 #35

We got Trump because we were complacent, first thinking he would never be elected but when he did, elocs Apr 26 #33

What you just described is a flawed system. thought crime Apr 26 #36

You've hit on one of the keys to our national nightmare. Morbius Apr 27 #42

Absolutely blubunyip Apr 27 #62

We should know in about 18 months Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #4

We always let the crooks go. We always move on. Irish_Dem Apr 26 #5

ITA JustAnotherGen Apr 26 #6

Yep, the hug a thug mentality Grim Chieftain Apr 26 #11

We were tricked into thinking prosecution would be too messy and hurt us. Irish_Dem Apr 26 #19

Exactly. Horse with no Name Apr 26 #13

Reagan, Bush jr, Cheney, Trump. Irish_Dem Apr 26 #20

Because Americans are hard wired to bow before money Fichefinder Apr 27 #56

Didn't Elon lie about his immigration status when seeking his citizenship? I hear that is cause for having it revoked. LonePirate Apr 26 #8

He already bought his "Gold Card" for a quarter-of-a-billion Dollars... BurnDoubt Apr 26 #17

I want them for treason & the death penalty. William769 Apr 26 #9

I Second. BurnDoubt Apr 26 #18

Back of the alley on a brick wall Envirogal Apr 27 #50

IF the rule of law survives . . . AverageOldGuy Apr 26 #10

"...and life in solitary for others." OldBaldy1701E Apr 27 #45

in the old old old old days they would have been shot before a firing squad. AllaN01Bear Apr 26 #12

We will not recover our reputation from this fascist wreck unless we prosecute the whole LymphocyteLover Apr 26 #14

If democracy is intact, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 26 #15

If we recover our democracy there will be tens of millions of Americans still within our midst elocs Apr 26 #21

Exceptional... except now..... BurnDoubt Apr 26 #24

I Agree Wholeheartedly CitizenZero Apr 26 #22

The corruption is almost total... BurnDoubt Apr 26 #23

What could protect "us" from the likes of... TearsOfDaClowned Apr 26 #27

Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City, Turner Diaries SARose Apr 26 #25

We just need to make "against the law" against the law again. dchill Apr 26 #26

We Need to Somehow Restore the Efficacy of Truth & Fact in the post AI/Social Media Age 🥺 TearsOfDaClowned Apr 26 #28

it needs a reboot stillcool Apr 26 #29

Trump is going to pardon every one of them unless he dies before doing so. Jit423 Apr 26 #30

Don't see us making it out of this nowforever Apr 26 #31

I agree w/ you. Last time, Garland did hold a few of them responsible, but the vast majority of the top thugs weren't SWBTATTReg Apr 26 #34

THANK YOU Skittles Apr 26 #37

HEH, EXACTLY!!! Jack Valentino Apr 26 #39

BOTH Presidents Clinton and Obama had ample evidence of Republican crimes, Jack Valentino Apr 26 #38

when will Dems learn Skittles Apr 27 #40

That would mean D have to win everything with a majority etc. Meowmee Apr 27 #41

I'm not going to make the perfect SocialDemocrat61 Apr 27 #43

No, really. It was keeping our powder dry until we got bayoneted that got us here. GPV Apr 27 #53

That too SocialDemocrat61 Apr 27 #55

In the current context, with who holds the levers of power, what does "national security" mean? David__77 Apr 27 #46

Our democracy was not "intact" before the election of Trump. hay rick Apr 27 #47

I want the muskrat name to be like Benedict Arnold kimbutgar Apr 27 #48

After the first Trump regime, LPBBEAR Apr 27 #49

There will need to be consequences WSHazel Apr 27 #51

They cheat just enough to keep control. So rallying up prosecution is unlikely. live love laugh Apr 27 #52

He'll issue blanket pardons madville Apr 27 #54

Would you support a denazification type of program? Kaleva Apr 27 #57

I would. Horse with no Name Apr 27 #61

I fully agree... Escape Apr 27 #58

"Americans dreaded democracy and contrived their constitution against it." Lord A cton Ping Tung Apr 27 #59

Kick AKwannabe Apr 27 #60

I want short public tribunals and quick firing squads. But I'm a radical. mucholderthandirt Apr 27 #63