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254. I think there's some latitude in the rules depending on if we're in an election season or not

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Wed Jan 29, 2025, 11:04 AM

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Also, we're not lockstep like the other side so some criticism is always allowed. If you feel someone has overstepped you can always respond to their post, send them a PM, or alert on them.

There's a ton of frustration right now. Vote to save democracy we were told in 2020 & then again in 2024. Some of us feel the democratic response to boxes & boxes & boxes of stolen documents was weak. And let's not forget that insurrection, too. The wheelers will be here soon, to explain why everything about those timelines was hunky-dory. Yet here we are.

A true opposition party would never have let it get to this point. The dems are 45-60 years behind the 8-ball. Our electoral process has been turned into a for-profit industry & can never elect true representatives of all the people & the people who can change it, are some of the very ones who benefit from it.

Democracy was always going to be harder & harder to hold onto as climate chaos gets worse. Globally, it took a huge blow when Trump got in again.

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I thought we supported democrats here [View all] SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday OP

Is it an attack to critique a public figure's public work? WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #1

Having a temper tantrum because SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #5

I think people would be upset if elected Dems were having temper tantrums. Think. Again. Tuesday #8

Then what is the problem? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #26

I would have to see the specific posts you're complaining about... Think. Again. Tuesday #32

I was asking about your post above SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #42

That post says not throwing tantrums isn't a problem. Think. Again. Tuesday #51

Then what is the problem? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #52

Did I say there was a problem? Think. Again. Tuesday #57

You said SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #69

I think that not throwing tantrums is not the problem. Think. Again. Tuesday #74

The what do you think is 'the problem'? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #86

Control of government is temporary. DV1 Tuesday #122

The problem is choie Yesterday #244

Then what strategy do you recommend? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #246

I'm not a politician choie Yesterday #248

Exactly how are they not prepared? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #249

Lack of a tactical response is not being prepared. choie Yesterday #250

What do you consider a tactical response? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #251

What does a temper tantrum look like in this context? WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #10

Like this... LexVegas Tuesday #12

Well done. Think. Again. Tuesday #33

Any thing with blanket attacks SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #43

Like most generalizations, that blanket doesn't cover the bed. sop Tuesday #67

i think it's important to criticize ourselves and learn samsingh Tuesday #113

Ding Ding Ding dwayneb Yesterday #235

To my knowledge DeepWinter Tuesday #2

I would welcome constructive criticism SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #6

You say you want specifics angrychair Tuesday #156

Why not? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #165

True angrychair Tuesday #190

Yes SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #192

Step aside if they are not willing or able to do the job dalton99a Tuesday #3

How are you defining their job? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #7

This is what Democrats aren't understanding. They think that the republican electorate Autumn Tuesday #83

I didn't like Jefferies post either SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #85

The Democrats are playing a wait and see game. They're going to tune out the Autumn Tuesday #99

Exactly what can be done to effectively fight? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #100

Take a cue from AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Jamie Raskin for starters. Autumn Tuesday #102

All three are in the House, not the Senate SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #121

No they can't vote for them but they sure are exposing them. Autumn Tuesday #123

Great SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #125

One last response to you, then I have things to do. The road to fascism is lined Autumn Tuesday #126

Not what I said SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #130

And yet you propose none. nt Bobstandard Tuesday #153

Neither are those SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #158

⬆️⬆️⬆️THIS⬆️⬆️⬆️ Think. Again. Tuesday #137

And yeah I will go to my grave pissed off at Jefferies god is on the throne bullshit. 2naSalit Tuesday #96

Do you depend on SNAP to eat? choie Yesterday #252

What exactly do they need to do to fight? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #253

So, we just fire them and replace them with what??? LeftInTX Tuesday #46

Yes we must be reminded that God is on His Throne and all will be well. Amen. Irish_Dem Tuesday #4

Trust the Lord. He works in inscrutable ways dalton99a Tuesday #9

Yes, god is on his throne and we should shut the fuck up Autumn Tuesday #41

Are you suggesting we should not hold our representatives accountable? Think. Again. Tuesday #11

Quite a lot of us don't have Democrats as our representatives maxrandb Tuesday #15

I believe the OP is referring to Dem Representatives. Think. Again. Tuesday #27

Bugging the crap out of the locals is key, imo. This a.m., the political ice just allegorical oracle Tuesday #64

I am making so many calls to Retrumplican "leaders" maxrandb Tuesday #75

What a concept! mcar Tuesday #169

No SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #17

No...see...we shouldn't ask; "where the fuck are the Republicans"? maxrandb Tuesday #13

One week into the mad man's 2nd admin and some are demanding Dem leaders do something... brush Tuesday #18

Exactly what can they do? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #20

Not voting for bullshit would be one thing they could do. There should not be one Democratic vote for any of this. Gore1FL Tuesday #78

OK SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #92

Let's start with putting dog killers in charge of DHS: Gore1FL Tuesday #103

Thank you SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #110

And if those Senators all voted against Noem, it would have changed nothing Wiz Imp Tuesday #116

One change would be my respect for the senators listed wouldn't be diminished. nt Gore1FL Tuesday #117

That is fine. Criticize them for their votes if you don't agree with them. Wiz Imp Tuesday #134

I live in Missouri and voted for Harris despite MO not going blue. Gore1FL Tuesday #138

I would criticize you for voting for Trump. Wiz Imp Tuesday #139

We are going to have to live with this disagreement, then. Gore1FL Tuesday #142

Are you saying voting for Noem is constructive and productive? Emile Tuesday #118

Nice strawman there. You know I wasn't saying that. Wiz Imp Tuesday #129

No strawman asking you a question. Your Emile Tuesday #140

You have an error in logic. Saying voting against a nominee is not constructive does not mean Wiz Imp Tuesday #143

Well I see you can't answer your own logic. Speaking of strawman argument, Emile Tuesday #147

OK. If you say so. Wiz Imp Tuesday #151

I do say so and you are still not answering your own logic. Emile Tuesday #152

Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #119

and how is voting for them effective and actually makes a difference? Emile Tuesday #141

A handful voted SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #146

Your words, not mine. You said Emile Tuesday #149

So democrats criticizing SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #162

You are still not answering your own logic. Emile Tuesday #173

I'm not understanding your question SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #174

Do I have to copy and paste what you said in every reply? Emile Tuesday #176

It would help SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #177

LOL 🤣 Emile Tuesday #178

Im not an expert angrychair Tuesday #161

I think it depends on context SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #167

They should be out everyday Marigold Tuesday #81

Who is 'they' exactly? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #94

"They" is the Democrats Marigold Tuesday #107

Who are 'the democrats'? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #108

Nevermind. Pointless discussion. Marigold Tuesday #112

Have a nice day SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #114

What do you mean by "the?" And when you say, "be," in what sense are you using that word? Scrivener7 Tuesday #154

You can find definitions here SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #159

Yes, but I really don't have a sense of how you are using them. Scrivener7 Tuesday #164

The definitions are SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #168

They could not vote for the fuckery? Bettie Tuesday #87

Who is 'they'? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #95

What do you mean by "who?" Please be specific. And your use of the asterisk. Scrivener7 Tuesday #155

Definitions are here SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #163

We fucking KNOW where the republicans are. As to who the ones are Autumn Tuesday #49

Oh good grief... NewHendoLib Tuesday #14

It's getting ridiculous on all fronts. Autumn Tuesday #37

I have a feeling it can get worse still! NewHendoLib Tuesday #44

Oh yeah it's gonna get a lot worse. Leadership needs to pay a lot more attention Autumn Tuesday #72

Looks like we should have sent Dems in Congress a copy of On Tyranny. OneGrassRoot Tuesday #93

How many of Trump's EO's are illegal? gab13by13 Tuesday #16

Prey tell, how do you stop EOs, especially Dems who are not the party in control? brush Tuesday #22

Democrats need to wave their magic wand SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #24

Exactly. I say let's see how far the mad man goes. brush Tuesday #35

Yes I am puzzled dwayneb Yesterday #241

That's the problem SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #243

So Democrats should look the other way gab13by13 Tuesday #45

A powerful story, good on you, and people who joined in. electric_blue68 Yesterday #205

These two Democratic Congresswomen have been attacked on Democratic Underground. C0RI0LANUS Tuesday #19

Not okay SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #23

Those two women demonized leadership of their own party AkFemDem Tuesday #31

So you're saying they got out of line? ForgoTheConsequence Tuesday #90

Uhhhh....seems like you are trying to play that role! tritsofme Tuesday #120

Biden failed the purity test, so they burned the entire party. That simple. AkFemDem Tuesday #136

So has Nancy Pelosi. But that's not what either of this is about. This about people who are basically LeftInTX Tuesday #36

We need to use the "Alert" button whenever we see a skeevy post on DU FakeNoose Tuesday #55

They are being alerted on! Too many jury members must think "shitting on Democrats" is OK. LeftInTX Tuesday #65

I guess DU is not a cult. Think. Again. Yesterday #201

They're probably feeling optimistic what with all the Democrat-bashing, but they failed to take betsuni Yesterday #204

Attacked or criticized? mcar Tuesday #171

Ultimately Matters Such As This Will Be Decided By Moderators Applying Site Rules MayReasonRule Tuesday #21

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #25

Perhaps you were wrong about your alerts? Think. Again. Tuesday #29

Thanks for trying. I think this points to how the juries are thinking, which is not good. LeftInTX Tuesday #30

Well said SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #34

I know...It's not constructive. LeftInTX Tuesday #39

I agree, this OP is definitely not constructive. Think. Again. Tuesday #56

Happy Tuesday Y'all Perhaps Contact Administration Directly MayReasonRule Tuesday #82

... demmiblue Tuesday #28

I support democrats. Have my entire life. I support them in many ways. boston bean Tuesday #38

Exactly what do you want them to do? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #47

Lead. Not silence and acquiescence. boston bean Tuesday #70

And exactly how would that stop any EO? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #73

No one is stating they can stop it. But vocally and vociferously speak against it ok? boston bean Tuesday #76

Where I live they are working hard to mitigate it. It's quiet and behind the scenes. (ICE raids etc) LeftInTX Tuesday #84

I've heard several Dems denounce them SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #89

It seems to me kacekwl Tuesday #105

That's an exaggeration SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #109

Great good go know. kacekwl Tuesday #111

We are seeing our nation being dismantled. I'm not sure if you are arguing against Democratic lawmakers doing Doodley Tuesday #179

Speaking out is great SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #180

So no voters need to be educated about what is going on? Nothing can be done? Unbelievable. Doodley Tuesday #186

Never said that SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #187

I support Democrats. I don't support "Democrats" who attack Democrats or enable trumpism or the GOP in general. themaguffin Tuesday #40

I have no problem with criticizing SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #50

All righty then Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #144

Never thought making a statement SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #150

Whatever Truman said... mountain grammy Tuesday #48

Well atreides1 Tuesday #63

There is a big difference regarding "attacking Democrats." gab13by13 Tuesday #53

Criticizing Fetterman or any other democrat SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #60

I get it that Trump is president and can issue EO's. gab13by13 Tuesday #77

Then please tell us SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #97

Check it out mcar Tuesday #172

Yeah, well, when you lose two of three elections to Donald Trump BeyondGeography Tuesday #54

Not blindly. NT mahatmakanejeeves Tuesday #58

I'm not accepting any appeasement. The issue is simple for me. You either honor your oath of office and defend Hotler Tuesday #59

What appeasement are you referring to? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #61

IMO. They all failed for not even trying to declare the orange one a domestic enemy. Hotler Tuesday #131

All? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #135

Right. And these same people that are complaining because not all Democrats are voting against everything Wiz Imp Tuesday #148

Voting for any of his cabinet appointments. Voltaire2 Yesterday #217

And those who did deserve to be criticized SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #219

Rubio 99-0 Voltaire2 Yesterday #220

So the actions of 47 people SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #221

Lol. Voltaire2 Yesterday #222

And thats still on 47 people SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #223

Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #62

Trying to silence legitimate criticism doesn't support Democrats. Renew Deal Tuesday #66

I'm all for specific criticism SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #71

Unfortunately, the issue isn't the will of Democrats kerouac2 Tuesday #68

How about an example or two as to what exactly you are Bettie Tuesday #79

You can just read this thread SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #106

The party seems to have fallen asleep and let a Republican majority get elected. Omnipresent Tuesday #80

We can't speak out when we disagree with a Democrat. That sounds like the Republicans theatening doc03 Tuesday #88

Correct. ForgoTheConsequence Tuesday #91

I had lots of complaints I heard from the MAGAs viewpoint as to why Harris lost and Biden's doc03 Tuesday #98

A democrat, yes SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #101

No, it's more like postponing D-Day until 1970 because "we don't want to be like the enemy". hadEnuf Tuesday #104

How so? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #115

We have been keeping our powder dry and now we are flooded. We should have been hammering the GOP with everything we had hadEnuf Tuesday #195

How have democrats been keeping their powder dry? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #196

This is kinda' off topic but I got sick... Septua Tuesday #124

But your posts criticizing DU posters for daring to criticize niyad Tuesday #127

I have no problem SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #133

Hmm, for some reason I keep thinking of Lady Violet. niyad Tuesday #193

Lol SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #194

They hate a fictional Democratic Party, why all the dramatic emotions, conspiracy theories, passive-aggressive betsuni Tuesday #128

Where are they? claudette Tuesday #132

Give me a break. alarimer Tuesday #145

This Oneironaut Tuesday #160

Sure SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #170

all gone. stillcool Tuesday #157

I found the attacks on Hakeem Jeffries mcar Tuesday #166

Who are these du democrats you are accusing for not voting for Harris? Emile Tuesday #175

The "uncommitted" who regularly trashed mcar Tuesday #181

Well you must have an idea who they are. Emile Tuesday #182

It'd be easy enough for you to Google mcar Tuesday #183

So you won't answer. Emile Tuesday #184

I've answered - and nice try mcar Tuesday #188

No you didn't, not even a nice try. Emile Tuesday #191

I will never understand disagreeing with elected leaders over things important to us is called bashing. LakeArenal Tuesday #185

Calling out individual democrats SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #189

There are times when the Democratic Party is, and should be, seen as a whole.... Think. Again. Yesterday #202

Demonizing a whole group of people SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #206

There's a big difference between "demonizing" and holding accountable. Think. Again. Yesterday #212

Yes hold individuals accountable SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #213

You don't seem to understand that when a majority of any given group act... Think. Again. Yesterday #214

You don't seem to understand SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #215

I beg to differ... Think. Again. Yesterday #216

Don't kid yourself SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #218

If they were doing that already.... Think. Again. Yesterday #224

They were doing that already SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #225

Oh, so they were doing it SECRETLY, like garland did his job... Think. Again. Yesterday #226

No, publicly SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #227

Again, if they were being proactive publicly... Think. Again. Yesterday #228

Again, for some it's never enough SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #229

Well, they're STARTING to speak out now... Think. Again. Yesterday #230

No they were doing it already SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #231

Including the one when Biden was still President? Emile Yesterday #232

So they were only allowed to speak out SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #233

LOL Emile Yesterday #234

Have a great day SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #236

You made my day, thanks. Emile Yesterday #238

You're very welcome SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #239

I don't sign or believe in Loyalty Oaths. I''d rather think for myself. Ping Tung Yesterday #197

Who said anything about loyalty oaths SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #199

Loyalty oaths, cult, blind allegiance, bow down, worship, toe the line, hive mind, betsuni Yesterday #208

Too many just want SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #210

Ironic that they're the "Democrats can be too big of a tent" "there's no standard" people -- purity tests and betsuni Yesterday #245

LOL Skittles Yesterday #198

And they will continue to win SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #200

we support them Skittles Yesterday #203

Never said anything about goose stepping SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #209

Just get it over with and say you want total obedience Renew Deal Yesterday #240

Never said I want total obedience SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #242

that hardly describes the situation Skittles 18 hrs ago #269

True SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #270

How do you define "attacking"? Elessar Zappa Yesterday #207

Post that SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #211

Some deserve it nt doc03 Yesterday #237

Some do SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #247

I think there's some latitude in the rules depending on if we're in an election season or not CrispyQ Yesterday #254

I have no issue with SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #255

I guess I'm one you'd take issue with then cuz I agree, as a party, as a unified voice, they aren't doing enough. -nt CrispyQ Yesterday #258

What should they be doing? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #259

A unified no vote for all of his nominees would be a good start. CrispyQ Yesterday #260

Are they all unqualified? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #261

I'm not a political strategist so maybe they should hire a few. Also, you're exhausting. Bye. -nt CrispyQ Yesterday #264

Why? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #265

I thought claudette Yesterday #256

Are you saying they don't? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #257

No claudette Yesterday #262

How are they silent? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #263

Guess I mean claudette Yesterday #266

All democrats don't get the media attention SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #267

Ok claudette Yesterday #268