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68. Unfortunately, the issue isn't the will of Democrats

Reply to SocialDemocrat61 (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2025, 09:08 AM

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It's the ability.

Democrats are legislators and people focused and skilled in governing and making decisions for the good of our entire country.

The gop is lead by cut throat ceo's, anarchists and crooks with expert skills in media and manipulation.

We simply do not have the media network, skill in manipulation and evil minions like they do.

And now we can't even use the law, because they essentially own that too.

So frustration with Dems has a lot to do with something Dems can't really do much about, because they are not evil people surrounded by more evil people skilled in manipulation and willing to do anything, legal or not.

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I thought we supported democrats here [View all] SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday OP

Is it an attack to critique a public figure's public work? WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #1

Having a temper tantrum because SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #5

I think people would be upset if elected Dems were having temper tantrums. Think. Again. Tuesday #8

Then what is the problem? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #26

I would have to see the specific posts you're complaining about... Think. Again. Tuesday #32

I was asking about your post above SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #42

That post says not throwing tantrums isn't a problem. Think. Again. Tuesday #51

Then what is the problem? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #52

Did I say there was a problem? Think. Again. Tuesday #57

You said SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #69

I think that not throwing tantrums is not the problem. Think. Again. Tuesday #74

The what do you think is 'the problem'? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #86

Control of government is temporary. DV1 Tuesday #122

The problem is choie Yesterday #244

Then what strategy do you recommend? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #246

I'm not a politician choie Yesterday #248

Exactly how are they not prepared? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #249

Lack of a tactical response is not being prepared. choie Yesterday #250

What do you consider a tactical response? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #251

What does a temper tantrum look like in this context? WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #10

Like this... LexVegas Tuesday #12

Well done. Think. Again. Tuesday #33

Any thing with blanket attacks SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #43

Like most generalizations, that blanket doesn't cover the bed. sop Tuesday #67

i think it's important to criticize ourselves and learn samsingh Tuesday #113

Ding Ding Ding dwayneb Yesterday #235

To my knowledge DeepWinter Tuesday #2

I would welcome constructive criticism SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #6

You say you want specifics angrychair Tuesday #156

Why not? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #165

True angrychair Tuesday #190

Yes SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #192

Step aside if they are not willing or able to do the job dalton99a Tuesday #3

How are you defining their job? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #7

This is what Democrats aren't understanding. They think that the republican electorate Autumn Tuesday #83

I didn't like Jefferies post either SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #85

The Democrats are playing a wait and see game. They're going to tune out the Autumn Tuesday #99

Exactly what can be done to effectively fight? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #100

Take a cue from AOC, Jasmine Crockett, Jamie Raskin for starters. Autumn Tuesday #102

All three are in the House, not the Senate SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #121

No they can't vote for them but they sure are exposing them. Autumn Tuesday #123

Great SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #125

One last response to you, then I have things to do. The road to fascism is lined Autumn Tuesday #126

Not what I said SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #130

And yet you propose none. nt Bobstandard Tuesday #153

Neither are those SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #158

⬆️⬆️⬆️THIS⬆️⬆️⬆️ Think. Again. Tuesday #137

And yeah I will go to my grave pissed off at Jefferies god is on the throne bullshit. 2naSalit Tuesday #96

Do you depend on SNAP to eat? choie Yesterday #252

What exactly do they need to do to fight? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #253

So, we just fire them and replace them with what??? LeftInTX Tuesday #46

Yes we must be reminded that God is on His Throne and all will be well. Amen. Irish_Dem Tuesday #4

Trust the Lord. He works in inscrutable ways dalton99a Tuesday #9

Yes, god is on his throne and we should shut the fuck up Autumn Tuesday #41

Are you suggesting we should not hold our representatives accountable? Think. Again. Tuesday #11

Quite a lot of us don't have Democrats as our representatives maxrandb Tuesday #15

I believe the OP is referring to Dem Representatives. Think. Again. Tuesday #27

Bugging the crap out of the locals is key, imo. This a.m., the political ice just allegorical oracle Tuesday #64

I am making so many calls to Retrumplican "leaders" maxrandb Tuesday #75

What a concept! mcar Tuesday #169

No SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #17

No...see...we shouldn't ask; "where the fuck are the Republicans"? maxrandb Tuesday #13

One week into the mad man's 2nd admin and some are demanding Dem leaders do something... brush Tuesday #18

Exactly what can they do? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #20

Not voting for bullshit would be one thing they could do. There should not be one Democratic vote for any of this. Gore1FL Tuesday #78

OK SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #92

Let's start with putting dog killers in charge of DHS: Gore1FL Tuesday #103

Thank you SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #110

And if those Senators all voted against Noem, it would have changed nothing Wiz Imp Tuesday #116

One change would be my respect for the senators listed wouldn't be diminished. nt Gore1FL Tuesday #117

That is fine. Criticize them for their votes if you don't agree with them. Wiz Imp Tuesday #134

I live in Missouri and voted for Harris despite MO not going blue. Gore1FL Tuesday #138

I would criticize you for voting for Trump. Wiz Imp Tuesday #139

We are going to have to live with this disagreement, then. Gore1FL Tuesday #142

Are you saying voting for Noem is constructive and productive? Emile Tuesday #118

Nice strawman there. You know I wasn't saying that. Wiz Imp Tuesday #129

No strawman asking you a question. Your Emile Tuesday #140

You have an error in logic. Saying voting against a nominee is not constructive does not mean Wiz Imp Tuesday #143

Well I see you can't answer your own logic. Speaking of strawman argument, Emile Tuesday #147

OK. If you say so. Wiz Imp Tuesday #151

I do say so and you are still not answering your own logic. Emile Tuesday #152

Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #119

and how is voting for them effective and actually makes a difference? Emile Tuesday #141

A handful voted SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #146

Your words, not mine. You said Emile Tuesday #149

So democrats criticizing SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #162

You are still not answering your own logic. Emile Tuesday #173

I'm not understanding your question SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #174

Do I have to copy and paste what you said in every reply? Emile Tuesday #176

It would help SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #177

LOL 🤣 Emile Tuesday #178

Im not an expert angrychair Tuesday #161

I think it depends on context SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #167

They should be out everyday Marigold Tuesday #81

Who is 'they' exactly? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #94

"They" is the Democrats Marigold Tuesday #107

Who are 'the democrats'? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #108

Nevermind. Pointless discussion. Marigold Tuesday #112

Have a nice day SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #114

What do you mean by "the?" And when you say, "be," in what sense are you using that word? Scrivener7 Tuesday #154

You can find definitions here SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #159

Yes, but I really don't have a sense of how you are using them. Scrivener7 Tuesday #164

The definitions are SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #168

They could not vote for the fuckery? Bettie Tuesday #87

Who is 'they'? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #95

What do you mean by "who?" Please be specific. And your use of the asterisk. Scrivener7 Tuesday #155

Definitions are here SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #163

We fucking KNOW where the republicans are. As to who the ones are Autumn Tuesday #49

Oh good grief... NewHendoLib Tuesday #14

It's getting ridiculous on all fronts. Autumn Tuesday #37

I have a feeling it can get worse still! NewHendoLib Tuesday #44

Oh yeah it's gonna get a lot worse. Leadership needs to pay a lot more attention Autumn Tuesday #72

Looks like we should have sent Dems in Congress a copy of On Tyranny. OneGrassRoot Tuesday #93

How many of Trump's EO's are illegal? gab13by13 Tuesday #16

Prey tell, how do you stop EOs, especially Dems who are not the party in control? brush Tuesday #22

Democrats need to wave their magic wand SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #24

Exactly. I say let's see how far the mad man goes. brush Tuesday #35

Yes I am puzzled dwayneb Yesterday #241

That's the problem SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #243

So Democrats should look the other way gab13by13 Tuesday #45

A powerful story, good on you, and people who joined in. electric_blue68 Yesterday #205

These two Democratic Congresswomen have been attacked on Democratic Underground. C0RI0LANUS Tuesday #19

Not okay SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #23

Those two women demonized leadership of their own party AkFemDem Tuesday #31

So you're saying they got out of line? ForgoTheConsequence Tuesday #90

Uhhhh....seems like you are trying to play that role! tritsofme Tuesday #120

Biden failed the purity test, so they burned the entire party. That simple. AkFemDem Tuesday #136

So has Nancy Pelosi. But that's not what either of this is about. This about people who are basically LeftInTX Tuesday #36

We need to use the "Alert" button whenever we see a skeevy post on DU FakeNoose Tuesday #55

They are being alerted on! Too many jury members must think "shitting on Democrats" is OK. LeftInTX Tuesday #65

I guess DU is not a cult. Think. Again. Yesterday #201

They're probably feeling optimistic what with all the Democrat-bashing, but they failed to take betsuni Yesterday #204

Attacked or criticized? mcar Tuesday #171

Ultimately Matters Such As This Will Be Decided By Moderators Applying Site Rules MayReasonRule Tuesday #21

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #25

Perhaps you were wrong about your alerts? Think. Again. Tuesday #29

Thanks for trying. I think this points to how the juries are thinking, which is not good. LeftInTX Tuesday #30

Well said SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #34

I know...It's not constructive. LeftInTX Tuesday #39

I agree, this OP is definitely not constructive. Think. Again. Tuesday #56

Happy Tuesday Y'all Perhaps Contact Administration Directly MayReasonRule Tuesday #82

... demmiblue Tuesday #28

I support democrats. Have my entire life. I support them in many ways. boston bean Tuesday #38

Exactly what do you want them to do? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #47

Lead. Not silence and acquiescence. boston bean Tuesday #70

And exactly how would that stop any EO? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #73

No one is stating they can stop it. But vocally and vociferously speak against it ok? boston bean Tuesday #76

Where I live they are working hard to mitigate it. It's quiet and behind the scenes. (ICE raids etc) LeftInTX Tuesday #84

I've heard several Dems denounce them SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #89

It seems to me kacekwl Tuesday #105

That's an exaggeration SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #109

Great good go know. kacekwl Tuesday #111

We are seeing our nation being dismantled. I'm not sure if you are arguing against Democratic lawmakers doing Doodley Tuesday #179

Speaking out is great SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #180

So no voters need to be educated about what is going on? Nothing can be done? Unbelievable. Doodley Tuesday #186

Never said that SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #187

I support Democrats. I don't support "Democrats" who attack Democrats or enable trumpism or the GOP in general. themaguffin Tuesday #40

I have no problem with criticizing SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #50

All righty then Jilly_in_VA Tuesday #144

Never thought making a statement SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #150

Whatever Truman said... mountain grammy Tuesday #48

Well atreides1 Tuesday #63

There is a big difference regarding "attacking Democrats." gab13by13 Tuesday #53

Criticizing Fetterman or any other democrat SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #60

I get it that Trump is president and can issue EO's. gab13by13 Tuesday #77

Then please tell us SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #97

Check it out mcar Tuesday #172

Yeah, well, when you lose two of three elections to Donald Trump BeyondGeography Tuesday #54

Not blindly. NT mahatmakanejeeves Tuesday #58

I'm not accepting any appeasement. The issue is simple for me. You either honor your oath of office and defend Hotler Tuesday #59

What appeasement are you referring to? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #61

IMO. They all failed for not even trying to declare the orange one a domestic enemy. Hotler Tuesday #131

All? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #135

Right. And these same people that are complaining because not all Democrats are voting against everything Wiz Imp Tuesday #148

Voting for any of his cabinet appointments. Voltaire2 Yesterday #217

And those who did deserve to be criticized SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #219

Rubio 99-0 Voltaire2 Yesterday #220

So the actions of 47 people SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #221

Lol. Voltaire2 Yesterday #222

And thats still on 47 people SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #223

Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #62

Trying to silence legitimate criticism doesn't support Democrats. Renew Deal Tuesday #66

I'm all for specific criticism SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #71

Unfortunately, the issue isn't the will of Democrats kerouac2 Tuesday #68

How about an example or two as to what exactly you are Bettie Tuesday #79

You can just read this thread SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #106

The party seems to have fallen asleep and let a Republican majority get elected. Omnipresent Tuesday #80

We can't speak out when we disagree with a Democrat. That sounds like the Republicans theatening doc03 Tuesday #88

Correct. ForgoTheConsequence Tuesday #91

I had lots of complaints I heard from the MAGAs viewpoint as to why Harris lost and Biden's doc03 Tuesday #98

A democrat, yes SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #101

No, it's more like postponing D-Day until 1970 because "we don't want to be like the enemy". hadEnuf Tuesday #104

How so? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #115

We have been keeping our powder dry and now we are flooded. We should have been hammering the GOP with everything we had hadEnuf Tuesday #195

How have democrats been keeping their powder dry? SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #196

This is kinda' off topic but I got sick... Septua Tuesday #124

But your posts criticizing DU posters for daring to criticize niyad Tuesday #127

I have no problem SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #133

Hmm, for some reason I keep thinking of Lady Violet. niyad Tuesday #193

Lol SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #194

They hate a fictional Democratic Party, why all the dramatic emotions, conspiracy theories, passive-aggressive betsuni Tuesday #128

Where are they? claudette Tuesday #132

Give me a break. alarimer Tuesday #145

This Oneironaut Tuesday #160

Sure SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #170

all gone. stillcool Tuesday #157

I found the attacks on Hakeem Jeffries mcar Tuesday #166

Who are these du democrats you are accusing for not voting for Harris? Emile Tuesday #175

The "uncommitted" who regularly trashed mcar Tuesday #181

Well you must have an idea who they are. Emile Tuesday #182

It'd be easy enough for you to Google mcar Tuesday #183

So you won't answer. Emile Tuesday #184

I've answered - and nice try mcar Tuesday #188

No you didn't, not even a nice try. Emile Tuesday #191

I will never understand disagreeing with elected leaders over things important to us is called bashing. LakeArenal Tuesday #185

Calling out individual democrats SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #189

There are times when the Democratic Party is, and should be, seen as a whole.... Think. Again. Yesterday #202

Demonizing a whole group of people SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #206

There's a big difference between "demonizing" and holding accountable. Think. Again. Yesterday #212

Yes hold individuals accountable SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #213

You don't seem to understand that when a majority of any given group act... Think. Again. Yesterday #214

You don't seem to understand SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #215

I beg to differ... Think. Again. Yesterday #216

Don't kid yourself SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #218

If they were doing that already.... Think. Again. Yesterday #224

They were doing that already SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #225

Oh, so they were doing it SECRETLY, like garland did his job... Think. Again. Yesterday #226

No, publicly SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #227

Again, if they were being proactive publicly... Think. Again. Yesterday #228

Again, for some it's never enough SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #229

Well, they're STARTING to speak out now... Think. Again. Yesterday #230

No they were doing it already SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #231

Including the one when Biden was still President? Emile Yesterday #232

So they were only allowed to speak out SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #233

LOL Emile Yesterday #234

Have a great day SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #236

You made my day, thanks. Emile Yesterday #238

You're very welcome SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #239

I don't sign or believe in Loyalty Oaths. I''d rather think for myself. Ping Tung Yesterday #197

Who said anything about loyalty oaths SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #199

Loyalty oaths, cult, blind allegiance, bow down, worship, toe the line, hive mind, betsuni Yesterday #208

Too many just want SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #210

Ironic that they're the "Democrats can be too big of a tent" "there's no standard" people -- purity tests and betsuni Yesterday #245

LOL Skittles Yesterday #198

And they will continue to win SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #200

we support them Skittles Yesterday #203

Never said anything about goose stepping SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #209

Just get it over with and say you want total obedience Renew Deal Yesterday #240

Never said I want total obedience SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #242

that hardly describes the situation Skittles 18 hrs ago #269

True SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #270

How do you define "attacking"? Elessar Zappa Yesterday #207

Post that SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #211

Some deserve it nt doc03 Yesterday #237

Some do SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #247

I think there's some latitude in the rules depending on if we're in an election season or not CrispyQ Yesterday #254

I have no issue with SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #255

I guess I'm one you'd take issue with then cuz I agree, as a party, as a unified voice, they aren't doing enough. -nt CrispyQ Yesterday #258

What should they be doing? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #259

A unified no vote for all of his nominees would be a good start. CrispyQ Yesterday #260

Are they all unqualified? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #261

I'm not a political strategist so maybe they should hire a few. Also, you're exhausting. Bye. -nt CrispyQ Yesterday #264

Why? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #265

I thought claudette Yesterday #256

Are you saying they don't? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #257

No claudette Yesterday #262

How are they silent? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #263

Guess I mean claudette Yesterday #266

All democrats don't get the media attention SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #267

Ok claudette Yesterday #268