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25. they are doing what they were sent there for
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 03:46 PM
Jan 23

...when the votes are being cast, they will ostensibly represent the people who sent them there.

What the _ else do you think they are able to do other than organize against what the majority intends to do?

I don't understand cynicism like this at all, especially when voters don't give our party the numbers they need to do more than just vote in the minority and talk.

Then we get posts ridiculing them for it. Hell, elect more Democrats if you want them to be in a position to do more than just point at what republicans are doing.

These Democrats each spelled out their own priorities for the nation in these conferences, so, I'm going to guess you didn't watch them.

You should watch each of these, and organize your own advocacy around the things they say they support. Then do more than just posit that the party out of power has some magical method to enact legislation, as if they had some fantastical way to subvert the votes of a majority of republicans.

It's not a serious argument and time shouldn't be wasted on such misinformed cynicism.

You want to protest? That couldn't be more your responsibility. The idea of someone sitting at home yelling at the Congress to organize them to protest is really something.

These people are there to legislate, and they are telling us exactly how they intend to do that job we sent them there to effect. At the very least, take heed of what they say before imposing expectations on them that they aren't in any way in a position to manage or control.

This isn't just about outside agitation. It's a challenge to effect legislative action from their seats at the table; the very purpose of protests.

My view is there are too many people criticizing our ineffective majorities and even or minorities for the consequences of the dearth of Democrats we elect. You just have to wonder what is the expected result of that failure?

I mean, one poster made this broad judgment of the party based on a vote they disagree made by a fraction of the Democrats in Congress; just like this complaint that they didn't begin their term with calls for protest outside of the institution in which they're supposed to be managing the people's business.

We really need to address our legislators where Congress actually stands, much more than where we haplessly wish it would be if we held the majority.

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Starts at about 12:00 min mark jmbar2 Jan 23 #1
"---Diversity E Pluribus Unum - From One, Many " TheProle Jan 23 #14
Thanks! jmbar2 Jan 23 #16
Totally agree. But we have to stop running just against trump/GOPers with how bad he is. It's true, but we ran on all Silent Type Jan 23 #2
We had a plan, not a concept of a plan, but a genuine plan MagickMuffin Jan 23 #20
What was that plan? Maybe I wasn't paying attention since I was voting Democratic not matter what, but I didn't see Silent Type Jan 23 #24
you dumbed down an entire campaign to that? bigtree Jan 23 #31
All I want is to see the Plan that you say exists. All I saw beyond what I posted was telling voters why they shouldn't Silent Type Jan 23 #33
Educate yourself and try watching the rallies MagickMuffin Jan 23 #36
So there was no succinct plan. That's the problem. The ads in my area were just trump sucks. Though true, Silent Type Jan 23 #37
Watch the campaign rallies not tv commercials MagickMuffin Jan 23 #38
not really something I'd be spending time here looking for bigtree Jan 23 #39
Agreed angrychair Jan 23 #21
I heard that and more bigtree Jan 23 #26
I think that Jeffries made a good case FOR Dem wnylib Jan 23 #23
They fucked up their first best chance to do something LearnedHand Jan 23 #3
12 Democrats voted for that Act in the Senate, 48 in the House bigtree Jan 23 #5
It's a perception thing LearnedHand Jan 23 #6
It's not a perception thing, it's a common sense thing. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 23 #15
Up is down orangecrush Jan 23 #9
I responded to misinforming cynicism about the party in another thread bigtree Jan 23 #13
The House GOP's first bill of 2025 could enable a Ken Paxton power grab SARose Jan 23 #11
I think the two Democratic senators in Georgia made the right move voting for that act. It's still a rube red state. Silent Type Jan 23 #19
We must find ways to bring the consequences of Trump's EO Policies upon Republicans bucolic_frolic Jan 23 #4
But-but-but ..... H2O Man Jan 23 #7
Hard to do anything SCantiGOP Jan 23 #8
Is it OK if a lot of us here hunker down and avoid all news and current events maxsolomon Jan 23 #10
I imagine that is SCantiGOP Jan 23 #12
I don't believe you're going to see "massive 1960s style activism and protests from the Left". maxsolomon Jan 23 #17
Great to see these caucus members and hear the message delisen Jan 23 #18
the Hispanic Caucus was excellent on this bigtree Jan 23 #29
These are noncommittal press conferences with vague generalities about Trump being "bad." Oneironaut Jan 23 #22
they are doing what they were sent there for bigtree Jan 23 #25
THANK YOU. Exactly. betsuni Jan 23 #34
It's not designed to entertain you. mahina Jan 24 #42
Weren't they supposed to already have a plan luxpara4 Jan 23 #27
what are you talking about? bigtree Jan 23 #30
TY Yes it would be Most Helpful to "Pay Attention" Cha Jan 23 #28
Again,... and again,... and again Dems hold press conferences like this. magicarpet Jan 23 #32
I'd guess that no one here has a thing to do with those technical issues bigtree Jan 23 #41
Pay attention -- way too much to ask. The script is Democrat-bashing and shall be mindlessly followed, betsuni Jan 23 #35
yeah. I couldn't see the brilliance in following the media's bait and separating this VP from historic accomplishments bigtree Jan 23 #40
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