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Cirsium

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28. Why is that sad?

Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:55 PM

11 hrs ago

The alternative to the "polarization" in the 1850s was the perpetuation of slavery.

The failure to fight back is the sad commentary. We did not start the fight and it won't go away if we are nice. The question is not whether or not the country will be polarized, the question is will we fight back or will we roll over?

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Guardian: It's time for Democrats to go low [View all] RainCaster 14 hrs ago OP

Agree. But how many will (or won't)? nt intrepidity 14 hrs ago #1

Welp BannonsLiver 13 hrs ago #6

Millennials and Gen Z in the Democratic Party seem less squeamish about doing what's necessary Elessar Zappa 6 hrs ago #58

I'm in. Resist. It's a goddamn war. Joinfortmill 14 hrs ago #2

Yes, consistent resistance in the most creative ways we can come up with. Magoo48 12 hrs ago #18

Should but don't think they know how. republianmushroom 14 hrs ago #3

The fact that this is clearly necessary is a sad commentary... keep_left 14 hrs ago #4

Why is that sad? Cirsium 11 hrs ago #28

Well, you're certainly right about the 1850s, and you're probably right... keep_left 10 hrs ago #37

It is all from the right Cirsium 8 hrs ago #48

Great analysis! yellow dahlia 7 hrs ago #53

Yeah, that's fair. It's not "both sides" at all; offhand, I can only think of one... keep_left 6 hrs ago #57

Roll over VBNMW 30 min ago #62

it is indeed appalling Skittles 11 hrs ago #35

What about Nancy Macey? Maraya1969 14 hrs ago #5

that's what the rethugs want southmost 13 hrs ago #7

Amen and Amen again. Buns_of_Fire 13 hrs ago #8

Kick 'em in the balls progressoid 13 hrs ago #9

Yeah, except too many elected Democrats think they can get republicans voters to back them so they play nice ZonkerHarris 13 hrs ago #10

Voters, or dollars? Cirsium 11 hrs ago #33

exactly ZonkerHarris 9 hrs ago #45

It is past time for Biden's DOJ to arrest Trump for his insurrection and put him on trial for it. Replace Garland... xocetaceans 13 hrs ago #11

So you think this will happen over the weekend? Lulu KC 13 hrs ago #12

YES!! Rikki Tikki Tumbo 12 hrs ago #16

Unfortunately, the ruling meant the Supreme Dark n Stormy Knight 7 hrs ago #56

Sounds made up VBNMW 25 min ago #63

I could not disagree with you more in your blaming Biden wnylib 11 hrs ago #30

Obama is responsible for not holding choie 2 hrs ago #60

I call BS on both claims. And on sowing divisiveness when we need unity. wnylib 6 min ago #65

That's one version VBNMW 2 min ago #66

I wish I could VBNMW 23 min ago #64

The leaders and voters of the dem party DENVERPOPS 12 hrs ago #13

Minute men. William769 12 hrs ago #14

the Dem base has been screaming this for ages now LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #15

Dems need to assert themselves! poli-junkie 12 hrs ago #17

This right here Aviation Pro 12 hrs ago #19

We should NEVER make nice to the magats Mountain Mule 12 hrs ago #20

Dems/Librulz have no counter to the Right's media ecosystem. maxsolomon 12 hrs ago #21

Controlling nothing means nothing to lose ck4829 12 hrs ago #23

I'm all in. Bird Lady 12 hrs ago #22

The pigs have been trying to pull us down into the mud for decades. live love laugh 12 hrs ago #24

Sure Cirsium 11 hrs ago #34

Your analogy makes zero sense. live love laugh 11 hrs ago #36

Do better Cirsium 8 hrs ago #49

And the high ground has gotten us...? ck4829 9 hrs ago #39

I didn't say we shouldn't go low, but I dread the muddying live love laugh 9 hrs ago #40

Understandable ck4829 9 hrs ago #42

I always thought the "When they go low, we go high" approach was idiotic. AZ8theist 12 hrs ago #25

Agreed, but they won't. flvegan 12 hrs ago #26

It isn't a choice. orangecrush 11 hrs ago #27

Yes, we need a disciplined opposition party, a shadow government bucolic_frolic 11 hrs ago #29

Shadow Government yellow dahlia 7 hrs ago #54

Go scorched earth for next two years. Sneederbunk 11 hrs ago #31

If that is even possible. yellow dahlia 7 hrs ago #55

No, states control the elections. summer_in_TX 2 hrs ago #59

They don't know how. DJ Synikus Makisimus 11 hrs ago #32

I've been wanting that since 1980 - no luck as of yet tenderfoot 10 hrs ago #38

It's time to elect some new Democrats who are capable of going low. Too many of the old guard live in the past. jalan48 9 hrs ago #41

People will choose an imperfect fighter over a perfect wimp dalton99a 9 hrs ago #43

That's the bare minimum Blue_Tires 9 hrs ago #44

All this doesn't mean shit... SpankMe 9 hrs ago #46

Good read malaise 9 hrs ago #47

Weird and Couch was effective. So was mentioning Project 2025. Kid Berwyn 7 hrs ago #50

Odds of that happening lower than odds of me winning Powerball awesomerwb1 7 hrs ago #51

ruthlessly, bitterly mean is NOT who we are. elleng 7 hrs ago #52

The part of the article that most resonated with me was: summer_in_TX 2 hrs ago #61