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keep_left

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4. The fact that this is clearly necessary is a sad commentary...

Fri Jan 17, 2025, 12:18 PM

Jan 17

...on the country as a whole. The political system has become so polarized that we can probably expect a modern version of the Charles Sumner caning incident within a few years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Charles_Sumner
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/James_Buchanan#.22Oh.2C_I.27m_sure_it_will_be_better_after_a_while.22

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Guardian: It's time for Democrats to go low [View all] RainCaster Jan 17 OP

Agree. But how many will (or won't)? nt intrepidity Jan 17 #1

Welp BannonsLiver Jan 17 #6

Millennials and Gen Z in the Democratic Party seem less squeamish about doing what's necessary Elessar Zappa Jan 17 #58

Call them what? GusBob Jan 18 #73

Pedos for one yankee87 Jan 18 #77

I'm in. Resist. It's a goddamn war. Joinfortmill Jan 17 #2

Yes, consistent resistance in the most creative ways we can come up with. Magoo48 Jan 17 #18

Should but don't think they know how. republianmushroom Jan 17 #3

The fact that this is clearly necessary is a sad commentary... keep_left Jan 17 #4

Why is that sad? Cirsium Jan 17 #28

Well, you're certainly right about the 1850s, and you're probably right... keep_left Jan 17 #37

It is all from the right Cirsium Jan 17 #48

Great analysis! yellow dahlia Jan 17 #53

Yeah, that's fair. It's not "both sides" at all; offhand, I can only think of one... keep_left Jan 17 #57

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it is indeed appalling Skittles Jan 17 #35

What about Nancy Macey? Maraya1969 Jan 17 #5

that's what the rethugs want southmost Jan 17 #7

Amen and Amen again. Buns_of_Fire Jan 17 #8

Kick 'em in the balls progressoid Jan 17 #9

Use electron microscope to find GOP balls. GreenWave Jan 18 #84

Yeah, except too many elected Democrats think they can get republicans voters to back them so they play nice ZonkerHarris Jan 17 #10

Voters, or dollars? Cirsium Jan 17 #33

exactly ZonkerHarris Jan 17 #45

It is past time for Biden's DOJ to arrest Trump for his insurrection and put him on trial for it. Replace Garland... xocetaceans Jan 17 #11

So you think this will happen over the weekend? Lulu KC Jan 17 #12

YES!! Rikki Tikki Tumbo Jan 17 #16

Unfortunately, the ruling meant the Supreme Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 17 #56

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You're missing the nuances. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 18 #69

I could not disagree with you more in your blaming Biden wnylib Jan 17 #30

Obama is responsible for not holding choie Jan 18 #60

I call BS on both claims. And on sowing divisiveness when we need unity. wnylib Jan 18 #65

The truth hurts. choie Jan 18 #74

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What nonsense. wnylib Jan 18 #67

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The leaders and voters of the dem party DENVERPOPS Jan 17 #13

Minute men. William769 Jan 17 #14

the Dem base has been screaming this for ages now LymphocyteLover Jan 17 #15

Dems need to assert themselves! poli-junkie Jan 17 #17

This right here Aviation Pro Jan 17 #19

We should NEVER make nice to the magats Mountain Mule Jan 17 #20

Dems/Librulz have no counter to the Right's media ecosystem. maxsolomon Jan 17 #21

Controlling nothing means nothing to lose ck4829 Jan 17 #23

Yes, I suppose you're right. maxsolomon Jan 21 #87

I'm all in. Bird Lady Jan 17 #22

The pigs have been trying to pull us down into the mud for decades. live love laugh Jan 17 #24

Sure Cirsium Jan 17 #34

Your analogy makes zero sense. live love laugh Jan 17 #36

Do better Cirsium Jan 17 #49

+1 krawhitham Jan 18 #80

And the high ground has gotten us...? ck4829 Jan 17 #39

I didn't say we shouldn't go low, but I dread the muddying live love laugh Jan 17 #40

Understandable ck4829 Jan 17 #42

THANK YOU Skittles Jan 18 #68

Control of the White House 12 of the last 16 years krawhitham Jan 18 #81

What an odd scale to use... why 16? You could also say 4 of the last 4 years. ck4829 Jan 18 #85

I always thought the "When they go low, we go high" approach was idiotic. AZ8theist Jan 17 #25

Agreed, but they won't. flvegan Jan 17 #26

It isn't a choice. orangecrush Jan 17 #27

Yes, we need a disciplined opposition party, a shadow government bucolic_frolic Jan 17 #29

Shadow Government yellow dahlia Jan 17 #54

Go scorched earth for next two years. Sneederbunk Jan 17 #31

If that is even possible. yellow dahlia Jan 17 #55

No, states control the elections. summer_in_TX Jan 18 #59

They don't know how. DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 17 #32

I've been wanting that since 1980 - no luck as of yet tenderfoot Jan 17 #38

It's time to elect some new Democrats who are capable of going low. Too many of the old guard live in the past. jalan48 Jan 17 #41

People will choose an imperfect fighter over a perfect wimp dalton99a Jan 17 #43

That's the bare minimum Blue_Tires Jan 17 #44

All this doesn't mean shit... SpankMe Jan 17 #46

Good read malaise Jan 17 #47

Weird and Couch was effective. So was mentioning Project 2025. Kid Berwyn Jan 17 #50

Odds of that happening lower than odds of me winning Powerball awesomerwb1 Jan 17 #51

ruthlessly, bitterly mean is NOT who we are. elleng Jan 17 #52

The part of the article that most resonated with me was: summer_in_TX Jan 18 #61

imo, LONG PAST time. B.See Jan 18 #70

Anger is not a strategy GreatGazoo Jan 18 #71

What is Brat summer? GusBob Jan 18 #72

"Be Worst" Oopsie Daisy Jan 18 #75

i wish - i don't think we have it in us samsingh Jan 18 #76

if you can't beat them join them krawhitham Jan 18 #78

ALL IN RecoveringJournalist Jan 18 #79

I liked the Guardian Kali999 Jan 18 #82

We need our own militia and bot brigade Kali999 Jan 18 #83

Trump & his Maga cult fight a street fight: ruthless and with no rules. elocs Jan 18 #86