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Thu Jan 16, 2025, 02:11 PM Jan 16

Charges Merrick Garland delayed or dragged his feet on the investigation are proven false in the Smith report [View all]

...they persisted because most of the substantive details of the investigation initiated by AG Garland's prosecutors in 2021 were kept secret by DOJ, except for court filings and what the perps revealed.

Now we have a report in which Jack Smith defends the AG against those charges, outlining how delays which the myriad appeals and challenges made by the perps subpoenaed for evidence and testimony often stretched out for months and years, not always ovelapping, and stretching out for years, well into the Smith appointment with Garland prosecutors defending those key pieces of evidence and testimony in courts well into his term.

Politico touched on this yesterday:



You have to wonder what journos and pundits like Carol Leonning are thinking today, trying to decide whether to double down on their false reporting that there was some delay or indecision from the AG about proceeding to prosecute Trump and his henchmen, or equivocate.

Carol Leonnig @CarolLeonnig Jun 2023
Many people inside DOJ strongly believe this . As one told us - “without the Jan 6 committee I’m convinced there wouldn’t have been a DOJ investigation into Trump’s role.”


Like most of Garland's critics, she should actually read people like Marcy Wheeler who has spent the years since that intrepid WaPo reporter wrote the article that was repeated and embellished by countless people to subvert and demagogue the efforts of the AG, including notables like Weissmann who spouted off those exact lies about the Garland's efforts as if he had some inside knowledge of a secret investigatory process; he just read from her article and embellished her misinformation with derision and hyper-concern.

here's Marcy:

(Critics) complained today that DOJ pursued the money trail and suspected communications with the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers immediately, both of which theories had solid evidence (likely arising from the mishandled Brandon Straka prosecution and the Owen Shroyer arrest) behind them. The money trail ended up being a dry hole; the comms angle ended up being inconclusive. But that’s the kind of thing Goodman and his ilk were demanding in real time — multiple prongs to pursue the case. Follow the money!

Instead, prosecutors’ most productive 2021 efforts appears to be getting an SDNY judge to allow DOJ to use the existing Special Master review for phones seized from Rudy Giuliani in April 2021 to prioritize obtaining the January 6 content. DOJ started with Co-Conspirator #1, and did so in a way that Trump had limited ability to obstruct. And from there, they seized one after another phone: John Eastman and Jeffrey Clark in June 2022, Scott Perry in August 2022, Boris Epshteyn and Mike Roman in September 2022, all of which would have had delays (not reflected in Jack Smith’s report because none of those have been unsealed) because of attorney-client, Speech and Debate, or technical exploitation issues, yet all of which would have been necessary given their reliance on encrypted apps. (This post argues that Smith likely didn’t get the content of Roman and Epshteyn’s phones until after he first indicted Trump.) You were never going to avoid getting the co-conspirator phones, because this coup was planned on encrypted apps and all of them fought disclosure. It appears that DOJ opportunistically seized the first of those on the first day there was a confirmed DAG to approve doing so. It is also clear that that wasn’t enough.

But if you’re going to make these complaints about what you read in Jack Smith’s report, you should note what else Smith said. The January 6 Committee work “comprised a small part of the Office’s investigative record,” but before Smith could use anything from J6C, prosecutors first had to “develop[] or verif[y those facts] through independent interviews and other investigative steps.”

The Office’s investigation included consideration of the report issued on December 22, 2022, by the U.S. House of Representatives’ Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, as well as certain materials received from the Committee. Those materials comprised a small part of the Office’s investigative record, and any facts on which the Office relied to make a prosecution decision were developed or verified through independent interviews and other investigative steps. During the prosecution of the Election Case, Mr. Trump alleged that the Select Committee and Special Counsel’s Office were one and the same and sought additional discovery about the Select Committee’s work. The district court rejected the claim. See ECF No. 263 at 47 (concluding that Mr. Trump has “not supplied an adequate basis to consider the January 6 Select Committee part of the prosecution team”). Regardless, the Office provided or otherwise made available to Mr. Trump in discovery all materials received from the Select Committee. See ECF No. 263 at 47 (“the Government states that it has already produced all the records it received from the Committee”).


We know from the immunity appendix that Jack Smith had productive follow-up interviews with Bill Barr, Ronna McDaniel, and Jason Miller, among others, to say nothing about more extensive cooperation with Eric Herschmann and Mike Pence’s privilege-waived interview(s).

But validating what J6C did could not start until J6C released transcripts in December 2022, after a 3-7 month delay.

more:https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/01/15/what-jack-smith-didnt-say-about-the-january-6-investigation/


thread:

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney
NEW: Jack Smith defended Garland’s pace, laying out DOJ’s frenetic, secretive efforts to win privilege fights with recalcitrant witnesses — Scott Perry, Mike Pence, John Eastman — that took months.

More takeaways from the Smith report. w/ @joshgerstein

https://politico.com/news/2025/01/14/jack-smith-special-counsel-report-takeaways-00198252

related:

Merrick Garland is Getting a Bum Rap
The claim that he is responsible for Trump’s evasion of accountability is clearly wrong.
https://harrylitman.substack.com/p/merrick-garland-is-getting-a-bum
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So... who's sitting on Vol. 2 now? C_U_L8R Jan 16 #1
Cannon, not Garland. You don't get to push Garland to violate the law because you won't suffer consequences Bernardo de La Paz Jan 16 #4
garland admitted cannon does not have that authority. Think. Again. Jan 16 #5
Yes, but until the courts rule against her, her ruling has temporary authority. Breaking it is breaking the law Bernardo de La Paz Jan 16 #9
She does not have temporary authority... Think. Again. Jan 16 #11
They are not in her court, but she has ruled. Until a judge is over-ruled, their rulings hold sway Bernardo de La Paz Jan 16 #15
judges can't just go ruling on cases that are not in their courts. Think. Again. Jan 16 #17
Correct. They can't. But they do. And until they are corrected, their rulings stay current and enforceable Bernardo de La Paz Jan 16 #21
Yes, they can't. Think. Again. Jan 16 #24
. Scrivener7 Jan 16 #2
that's a problem bigtree Jan 16 #8
. Scrivener7 Jan 16 #10
again with the cartoon ass bigtree Jan 16 #13
. Scrivener7 Jan 16 #14
You have no argument or facts, so you show your ass to a fellow DU member. You can do better. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 16 #16
You're wasting your electrons. It has been conclusively established Ocelot II Jan 16 #3
Still with this Garland defense? He failed spectacularly to. prosecute and jail trump. Now the traitor... brush Jan 16 #6
it's more valid than the lies spread that Garland was inactive or delayed something. bigtree Jan 16 #12
It's not complicated. Not immediately investigating, indicting, prosecuting and convicting trump first thing... brush Jan 16 #20
it actually is complicated bigtree Jan 16 #30
Nah, Garland failed horribly. Nothing complicated about that fact., on that trump takes over again in a few days... brush Jan 17 #39
that's not true at all bigtree Jan 17 #40
I say Garland failed horribly, you disagree. Let's leave it at that. brush Jan 17 #41
It's not a defence, it is a more balanced perspective. Even Biden was disappointed in Garland Bernardo de La Paz Jan 16 #18
You realize Smith just skipped over the first 2 years in his report, right? Think. Again. Jan 16 #7
You don't cite the Smith report at all iemanja Jan 16 #19
please post the quote from President Biden saying the appointment was a mistake bigtree Jan 16 #29
Why cling to caring his water? iemanja Jan 16 #32
why continue to criticize the AG with things clearly refuted by the report?. bigtree Jan 16 #35
Naturally. As a rational adult, that's what I expected. No surprises there. Oopsie Daisy Jan 16 #22
Well is this true or not: Stargleamer Jan 16 #23
So there was "solid evidence" linking the rioters to Trump, but... Cowpunk Jan 16 #25
reports dispute that. That financial investigation took place shortly after the arrests of rioters bigtree Jan 16 #31
The problem with that is he didn't appoint the special counsel until a year later than he should have. JohnSJ Jan 16 #26
Musk bought Twitter qazplm135 Jan 16 #27
Respect Jack Smith to say he's wrong, but, republianmushroom Jan 16 #28
you posted the Carol Leonning article which just lied about what the DOJ was doing bigtree Jan 16 #33
imagine if Garland put this much effort into correcting misinformation! That might have helped. thebigidea Jan 16 #34
no prosecutor discusses ongoing prosecutions in public bigtree Jan 16 #36
Nor do they discuss cases that they don't want to prosecute for political reasons. republianmushroom Jan 16 #37
we know that the AG doesn't just bring forward charges on his own will and whim bigtree Jan 16 #38
We all so know trump committed more crimes than what he was indicted for. republianmushroom Jan 17 #42
that's not the way law works bigtree Jan 17 #43
I don't take legal advice or analysis I'm not paying for since it's generally worthless thebigidea Jan 17 #44
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