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Fiendish Thingy

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4. Exactly- regardless of Garland's speed, the outcome would have been the same

Tue Jan 14, 2025, 11:03 AM

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No trial before election day.

If all the delays, appeals, and rulings that we saw over the past four years had been completed say, two years earlier, I don’t think Trump’s lawyers would have thrown up their hands and said “we shot our wad, there’s absolutely nothing else we can do to delay this going to trial”.

Of course not- they would have continued to file motions, and appeal and do everything they had done before, plus they would use the immunity ruling to further slow the process by challenging every piece of evidence and testimony as inadmissible due to immunity.

And that’s before we even get to jury selection.

It’s important to note there is nothing Garland or Smith, or any other AG, could have done to force the courts to proceed to trial before the election.

As always, thank you for your reasoned and reality-based reply.

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Funny how so many see Smith's report, and it's mention of "timeliness", as an indictment of Garland [View all] Fiendish Thingy Tuesday OP

Would the outcome have been different if Garland had moved faster? Ocelot II Tuesday #1

Exactly- regardless of Garland's speed, the outcome would have been the same Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #4

And even if he had been tried and convicted before the election, Ocelot II Tuesday #11

Yup- that is the sad reality Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #13

People had higher expectations of Garland than of Roberts and the other conservative SCJs muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #2

Nevertheless, the courts held more power than Garland Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #6

You're just supposing the SC would have done something else muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #10

All the existing evidence shows the courts would have continued to delay a trail Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #12

Exactly. The courts were working through was was admissible, not saying "this will never happen" muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #22

Indeed, that would be true Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #24

Again, you're just guessing what they'd try to do. It's a counsel of despair. muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #31

I've never suggested or advocated giving up Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #32

Your entire argument is "it was impossible to get a trial in four years" muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #33

That's a whole lot of assumptions and misinterpretations Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #35

Obviously, you have an idiosyncratic view of what happened muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #38

garland didn't even start investigations for 2 years... Think. Again. Tuesday #3

I thought Garland was a terrible choice for the supreme court, as well as the AG NewHendoLib Tuesday #5

And yet, the result would have been the same with any other AG Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #7

Disagree. NewHendoLib Tuesday #8

Facts to support your opinion? Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #9

Assuming what the court might have done is not reality. Think. Again. Tuesday #29

This is such lazy thinking BeyondGeography Tuesday #14

Yates could not have forced a trial before the election Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #15

Not handing down indictments before he declared his candidacy BeyondGeography Tuesday #16

Smith wasn't appointed until almost two years Voltaire2 Tuesday #17

You completely misunderstand the definition of, and justification for appointing a special counsel. Nt Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #18

Nice try. Scrivener7 Tuesday #19

See all the Garland failure excuses here Bobstandard Tuesday #20

It wasn't the courts that delayed the FBI from investigating trump republianmushroom Tuesday #21

So walk me through your alternative scenario Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #23

The courts may not of been as protective of trump, if, he was indicted "sooner", republianmushroom Tuesday #34

It's a failure of the entire system malaise Tuesday #25

Regrettably, certain individuals seek a convenient scapegoat when faced with events that exceed their control * Oopsie Daisy Tuesday #26

Spot on, I saw the light gab13by13 Tuesday #27

Hallelujah! Nt Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #28

It can be both an indictment of Garland and delays/obstruction by the Roberts' Court Stargleamer Tuesday #30

I don't give a f-ck if it disqualified trump or not. Apply the law QUICKLY ecstatic Tuesday #36

So walk me through how another AG would have obtained a conviction before the election Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #37

Two separate issues. My preferred AG would have moved quickly, which is a separate issue ecstatic Thursday #39