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Ocelot II

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100. He's partly right; it's true that very little penetrates the right-wing media silo - BUT

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 03:26 PM

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the voters did see and hear with their very own eyes and ears the horrendous things Trump and his minions did and said over and over. They heard him insult Kamala personally; they heard him make outrageous and false claims about the Haitians in Springfield, they heard him call immigrants criminals and rapists and vermin; they heard him produce incoherent and bizarre word salads involving electric boats and sharks and Hannibal Lecter - ramblings that made no sense at all - and they saw him simulating fellatio on live tv. The media can't be blamed for people voting for the grotesque displays they saw and heard themselves. That was never hidden from them. They saw him, they saw he was nasty and awful and disturbed; they liked what they saw and voted for it.

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Tomasky: Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won? [View all] Nevilledog Friday OP

I have literally been saying this for 12 fucking years now! Initech Friday #1

Me too, but up until Tuesday, I still believed we could overcome it William Seger Friday #10

Nope. It's too strong. Initech Friday #20

Well, expecting it would collapse under its own dishonesty sure didn't work William Seger Friday #26

I thought the bubble would be bursting with this election, but it didn't. Initech Friday #48

Oh yes, bdamomma Saturday #169

Nope. It's time to burst that bubble by force if necessary. Initech Friday #133

I don't know why/how Harris lost Shoonra Friday #117

RACISM AND SEXISM PUT THE CONVICTED FELON BACK IN OFFICE... Jon Waters Friday #132

The election was neither clean nor honest dickthegrouch Friday #140

Because she's a black woman. Meadowoak Saturday #160

Trump didn't win. The Democrats lost OrangeJoe Friday #136

Willful ignorance combined with pervasive propaganda. CaptainTruth Friday #21

And they have a decades long lead in building their echo chamber, Tadpole Raisin Friday #28

What the average Fox News viewer believes: Different Drummer Friday #58

lol, Bullwinkle would be a far better president along with his friend Rocky. Tadpole Raisin Friday #63

It's so beyond Fox at this point. Hassin Bin Sober Friday #64

That, and they haven't "suffered" enough yet to just begin to pay attention. Justice matters. Friday #91

There is no "doubt" about it. AZ8theist Saturday #156

Dig deeper... Scully Friday #69

Maybe ... but it could just be a symbiotic relationship. I'm KPN Friday #113

This whole thing is beign run by Putin MadameButterfly Saturday #150

As some may have noticed... pat_k Friday #76

Exactly what happened in my family. marybourg Friday #121

It happened so fast. pat_k Friday #129

Longer than that! luvallpeeps Friday #139

Way back to the Clinton years. Autumn Saturday #171

I've been saying this since 1984. FDRFTW Saturday #152

Me too. Here's a genius solution to the silos: The Tangle newsletter. This American Life had a great segment on Sat mahina Saturday #154

Hillary said it first, a vast rw conspiracy.... Pepsidog Saturday #175

Some of the propaganda supplied by Russia and China. Irish_Dem Friday #2

I just read the same article on the New Republic site jayschool2013 Friday #3

I think that's definitely A real reason, not THE real reason -- no such thing William Seger Friday #22

Fox News pushed the immigrant crisis story 24/7 Yavin4 Friday #4

We lost this in 1988 when Reagan eliminated The Fairness Doctrine. nt Tommymac Friday #5

That's not really true moose65 Friday #35

Yes. It's this. yardwork Friday #6

On Black men, I have to push back. Black voters voted for trump the same as in 2020, 12 percent. brush Friday #46

You're right. yardwork Friday #86

Looking at an NBC exit poll Rstrstx Friday #90

Ahhhh...those numbers don't add up. See post 65. brush Friday #110

The exit poll is here Rstrstx Friday #111

See post 65 for what WAPO found. brush Friday #112

Do you mean post 86? nmmi Saturday #155

Ah, but white women voted for and won body autonomy in several states and then Jit423 Friday #143

Nonvoters are deadly to us DFW Saturday #157

And social media. Disaffected Friday #7

Yep, the column in the OP misanthrope Friday #49

Honestly, I think if I could pinpoint American society's downfall in one single event... Initech Friday #51

A lot of folks here on DU don't know what Gamergate is, or how it came about FakeNoose Friday #73

All the same players, all the same methods AZSkiffyGeek Friday #79

It's time for some edumacation! Initech Friday #89

Rush Limbaugh destroyed my workplace. The men became domineering and loved humiliating female coworkers. SharonAnn Friday #101

How about the fact that Americans are mean and spiteful when given the chance to be world wide wally Friday #8

How 'bout the fact of that being way too broad a brush? whathehell Friday #34

I wholeheartedly agree. Srkdqltr Friday #47

The sane-washing of an insane criminal Blue Owl Friday #9

He's everything they wish they were. Ligyron Friday #144

Expecting markodochartaigh Friday #11

Evidently there's far more chaff than wheat in those depleted fields BattleRow Friday #16

Right on target. kentuck Friday #12

So true moose65 Friday #36

One of the reasons I am so pessimistic about American voters/society is that RockRaven Friday #13

Media doesn't have the list of ingredients on the label as most "consumables" are required to. BattleRow Friday #19

Hold on there misanthrope Friday #50

Why bother when cats and dogs will be the consumables BattleRow Friday #118

Biden beat trump in 2020 with the same environment/political facts mentioned... brush Friday #14

I want to know what that "little secret" was - AND IS. calimary Friday #42

Because my friend, E. Normus Friday #61

As much as I don't want to hear this it's true. mountain grammy Friday #104

THIS SunSeeker Friday #105

Well, the "gotta be a man" thing probably does explain it. calimary Friday #123

With some of those women DemonGoddess Friday #130

this bcbink Friday #125

That I don't believe. Hillary was ahead in the polls until that damn Comey sent his letter to Congress. brush Saturday #149

"Harris' pimps" was said at the Madison Square Garden rally AdamGG Saturday #148

The right wing media empire is too big and too dangerous Mr. Sparkle Friday #15

Hate radio h2ebits Friday #54

Nope, news has been replaced by opinion. Initech Friday #142

Any suggestions how to overcome the messaging of the next four years? ancianita Friday #17

Wealthy Dems need to start creating and/or buying media outlets and grow them fast! Clouds Passing Friday #23

Hopeful that you're right and that they could overcome. But why should they invest in counter messaging? ancianita Friday #38

Thank you for your hope. I have been losing mine. Clouds Passing Friday #135

I hear you. But the oligarchy shit pit is where we are. We have to do something, even depend on our military if need be. ancianita Friday #138

Yes! hadEnuf Friday #62

About 5% of the adult population watches Fox News Kaleva Friday #18

The whole political landscape has changed since Fox news. hadEnuf Friday #59

If one looks at the numbers given by the ratings Kaleva Friday #115

Fox News, Newsmax, OANN, Sinclair's radio, TV, and newspapers, iHeart, Bot (Xtian radio), X, Rogan, etc Mersky Friday #65

So what is the percentage that watch or listen to all the sources listed? Kaleva Friday #114

MAGATS live in a complete media ecosystem spinning a fantasy land narrative in which dictators are good guys. FDRFTW Saturday #153

And I wonder about those who rely on sources like Ok occupy Democrats.. Kaleva Saturday #158

While this was a massive "in-kind" contribution... orwell Friday #24

" The message wouldn't work if people were happy with their lives. THEY ARE NOT! " HUAJIAO Friday #41

Corporate media has now failed to adequately cover Trump for three straight presidential campaigns. sop Friday #25

Basically cilla4progress Friday #27

The media that we watch and listen to.... kentuck Friday #29

I totally agree. I watched my parents succumb to Fox News brainwashing. They were decent, progressive, intelligent Martin68 Friday #30

Now you've given me another factor to think about. TBF Friday #33

My parents grew up during the Depression and came of age during WWII. They were liberals while I was growing up, but Martin68 Friday #107

I've thought on this since I read Earl's OP yesterday - I think it goes a little deeper TBF Friday #31

i know some dislike msg that are just yup so let me say HELL TO THE FUCKING YES AmandaRuth Friday #32

NBC, CBS. and ABC did it too don't let them off... Ysabel Friday #37

Yup! Beat me to it. GoCubsGo Friday #67

We need our own media ecosystem, and we need to *support* it. keep_left Friday #39

Start by not losing what we already have DeeNice Friday #88

I agree completely. And nearly all of the progressive radio stations... keep_left Friday #103

100%! Grumpy Old Guy Friday #40

I couldn't disagree more. snot Friday #43

Dr. Maslow, I presume? GJGCA Friday #78

+1 leftstreet Friday #81

Its also social media outlets that post never ending personal smears and falsehoods indigovalley Friday #44

plenty of free propaganda southmost Friday #45

Once they killed liberal talk radio...nuf said MiHale Friday #52

Nope. Consumers of such propaganda were lacking harumph Friday #53

Blaming the voters Cirsium Friday #71

No it's not. It's the truth. nt. druidity33 Friday #134

Now the question is what do they really want to gain from this? Klarkashton Friday #55

Lack of accountability Envirogal Friday #106

100% Joe Cool Friday #56

It's still a fact that a majority of voters were comfortable with his outrageous behavior PlanetBev Friday #57

Rich liberals need DownriverDem Friday #60

Exactly. highplainsdem Friday #66

Propaganda works and they have an enormous disinformation network. Basso8vb Friday #68

We actually have lousy media companies all owned by billionares... Historic NY Friday #70

The biggest liar Andy823 Friday #72

knr n/t markie Friday #74

HUGE REC. progressoid Friday #75

The next question after this is why do people prefer the propaganda? patphil Friday #77

Exactly. No matter what we do if those right wing outlets are not destroyed oldmanlynn Friday #80

He is not wrong. valleyrogue Friday #82

Worse yet: Hieronymus Phact Friday #83

It's more media than right wing media. Trust_Reality Friday #84

"Why didn't a majority of voters see these things?" LudwigPastorius Friday #85

Thank you .. exactly what I've been saying. ificandream Friday #87

The roots of hate and bigotry run deep. BarbD Friday #92

I think most people don't see any of media sources. onenote Friday #93

They get some stuff by osmosis though on social media. Elessar Zappa Saturday #172

Oh, and by the way, water is wet. ECL213 Friday #94

My daughter's mother in law watches end-time LeftInTX Friday #95

Why does no one understand that there's more than one reason? Lulu KC Friday #96

Thank you -- 100% agree. Pinback Friday #108

Exactly. TwilightZone Saturday #164

Trumps oral mic story should have been the headlines for days. joshcryer Friday #97

Yep. That was the invisible ReRe Friday #98

"Mainstream" corporate media deserves a good part of the blame, sane washing, non endorsements of Harris, diane in sf Friday #99

He's partly right; it's true that very little penetrates the right-wing media silo - BUT Ocelot II Friday #100

Message auto-removed Name removed Friday #102

And the MSM meekly responded if at all. In fact, KPN Friday #109

Propaganda hurts not only by lying and deceit but also Stargleamer Friday #116

They DO know...They don't care. Cretins are just as sick as he is. /nt aka-chmeee Friday #119

They heard exactly what they * wanted * to hear Six117 Friday #120

We have to find a way to counter this hateful mess. mzmolly Friday #122

I still say vote tampering 4catsmom Friday #124

Dems should get off Fox News and Twitter PedroXimenez Friday #126

"The answer is the right-wing media." 👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾 uponit7771 Friday #127

"do something about it" - gee, thanks, Tomasky, that's a great help. muriel_volestrangler Friday #128

THIS Martin Eden Friday #131

They need to destroy the country for people to see it. Turbineguy Friday #137

The media went easy on him and was tough on her liberal N proud Friday #141

Really? MSNBC Was Pretty Harsh, Are They Not Media? TomCADem Saturday #146

People see what they want to see. TwilightZone Saturday #166

Exactly. These broad brush attacks that treat News Max... TomCADem Saturday #178

That's a major part of it angryxyouth Saturday #145

Why do they want us all at the mercy of a malignant narcissist? SleeplessinSoCal Saturday #147

the billionaires control the message. It's Putin's press now. FDRFTW Saturday #151

As a retired educator, it pains me to say this ... Straw Man Saturday #159

As for the worst things he's said, I was told "Oh he doesnt really MEAN it" oldsoftie Saturday #161

Right wing media + racism, mysoginy, failed or programmed education, lack of critical thinking, failure to grow the f up Attilatheblond Saturday #162

EXACTLY! Thom Hartman echoed this truth last week. It's a trillion-dollar marketing campaign to destroy democracy LaMouffette Saturday #163

Right wing media vilified liberals and Democrats to the extent that onlyadream Saturday #165

Abortion Was A Losing Issue For Harris DallasNE Saturday #167

I wholeheartedly agree MaineBlueBear Saturday #168

Why do people choose these? residentcynic Saturday #170

Nope. Littlered Saturday #173

"slanted and distorted information"... kentuck Saturday #174

KnRnBk Hekate Saturday #176

RIGHT WING SPANISH LANGUAGE RADIO MomInTheCrowd Saturday #177