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ancianita

(37,670 posts)
50. It's likely
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 12:12 PM
Sunday

that since the pope hasn't considered Trump a Christian since he was in and out of office, that yes, Biden is the lesser of two evils. Which many should understand as a metaphorical expression, not a literal claim, since Biden himself is not evil. Nor is Harris.

The better phrasing is that Biden represents the lesser of two evils.

Most folks aren't aware, but like Biden, the pope himself goes to confession once a week or every two weeks. The pope has to preside at the altar and -- with Jesus who brings heaven on earth with the Mass -- consecrate the bread and wine as the Eucharist at every Mass; but Biden has only to receive it after absolution, which also requires regular confession.

As the pastor of Holy Trinity Church in Washington, D.C., Rev. Kevin Gillespie often saw then-Vice President Joe Biden among the faithful on Sundays. And so when Biden was elected just the nation’s second Roman Catholic president in November, Gillespie checked the parish files.

“He is a registered parishioner,” Gillespie told NBC News. “I looked him up. He’s still there.”

“Almost always we find that we never really understood a president’s private religious belief and practice at the time he served,” Beschloss said. “And you usually have to wait decades to find out what he believed and what he practiced.”

With Biden, that’s not necessarily the case.

Through the campaign and into the transition, Biden not only rarely missed weekend mass at his home parish in Delaware, he also attended services on holy days of obligation and made an effort to attend services while traveling. His daughter, Ashley Biden, told the "Today Show" last week about helping her father find a small church to attend mass while on the road in the heat of the Democratic primary campaign, before the pandemic.

But he has also opted for in-home services. Over Christmas, when the Bidens never left their Wilmington home, a close family friend, Rev. Kevin O’Brien, a Jesuit priest who is now president of Santa Clara University, celebrated mass for the Bidens virtually.

O’Brien was asked by the Bidens to celebrate mass on Inauguration Day — a service at Washington’s Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle that included bipartisan congressional leadership and close family and friends. He’d held smaller, private masses for the Bidens before his inauguration as vice president in 2009 and in 2013.

“It was something so beautiful because it was so familiar,” O’Brien told NBC News. “I just was so happy that I could help offer that — it was really the church offering that to him.”

O’Brien first met the Bidens while at Holy Trinity and then at Georgetown University. Biden would attend services at both — sometime the morning masses at Holy Trinity, or the later service at Georgetown’s Dahlgren Chapel, depending on his schedule.

O’Brien said he stayed in touch with Biden after he left the vice presidency, and would send him and Jill Biden weekly “spiritual encouragements” over text message during the campaign — something he expects will likely continue with him in the White House.

“I'll be of any support I can to them in the next four years,” O’Brien said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/sunday-services-biden-s-faith-display-renewed-presidential-ritual-n1255460




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Right. She's not evil. ancianita Sunday #46
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It's likely ancianita Sunday #50
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I agree with you Freddie Sunday #16
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Leader of the world's largest pedophile ring says what? Plectranthus Sunday #7
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You need permission??! paleotn Sunday #38
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