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In reply to the discussion: Once again the Catholic Church comes to the aid of fascism. [View all]ancianita
(37,670 posts)50. It's likely
that since the pope hasn't considered Trump a Christian since he was in and out of office, that yes, Biden is the lesser of two evils. Which many should understand as a metaphorical expression, not a literal claim, since Biden himself is not evil. Nor is Harris.
The better phrasing is that Biden represents the lesser of two evils.
Most folks aren't aware, but like Biden, the pope himself goes to confession once a week or every two weeks. The pope has to preside at the altar and -- with Jesus who brings heaven on earth with the Mass -- consecrate the bread and wine as the Eucharist at every Mass; but Biden has only to receive it after absolution, which also requires regular confession.
As the pastor of Holy Trinity Church in Washington, D.C., Rev. Kevin Gillespie often saw then-Vice President Joe Biden among the faithful on Sundays. And so when Biden was elected just the nations second Roman Catholic president in November, Gillespie checked the parish files.
He is a registered parishioner, Gillespie told NBC News. I looked him up. Hes still there.
Almost always we find that we never really understood a presidents private religious belief and practice at the time he served, Beschloss said. And you usually have to wait decades to find out what he believed and what he practiced.
With Biden, thats not necessarily the case.
Through the campaign and into the transition, Biden not only rarely missed weekend mass at his home parish in Delaware, he also attended services on holy days of obligation and made an effort to attend services while traveling. His daughter, Ashley Biden, told the "Today Show" last week about helping her father find a small church to attend mass while on the road in the heat of the Democratic primary campaign, before the pandemic.
But he has also opted for in-home services. Over Christmas, when the Bidens never left their Wilmington home, a close family friend, Rev. Kevin OBrien, a Jesuit priest who is now president of Santa Clara University, celebrated mass for the Bidens virtually.
OBrien was asked by the Bidens to celebrate mass on Inauguration Day a service at Washingtons Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle that included bipartisan congressional leadership and close family and friends. Hed held smaller, private masses for the Bidens before his inauguration as vice president in 2009 and in 2013.
It was something so beautiful because it was so familiar, OBrien told NBC News. I just was so happy that I could help offer that it was really the church offering that to him.
OBrien first met the Bidens while at Holy Trinity and then at Georgetown University. Biden would attend services at both sometime the morning masses at Holy Trinity, or the later service at Georgetowns Dahlgren Chapel, depending on his schedule.
OBrien said he stayed in touch with Biden after he left the vice presidency, and would send him and Jill Biden weekly spiritual encouragements over text message during the campaign something he expects will likely continue with him in the White House.
I'll be of any support I can to them in the next four years, OBrien said.
He is a registered parishioner, Gillespie told NBC News. I looked him up. Hes still there.
Almost always we find that we never really understood a presidents private religious belief and practice at the time he served, Beschloss said. And you usually have to wait decades to find out what he believed and what he practiced.
With Biden, thats not necessarily the case.
Through the campaign and into the transition, Biden not only rarely missed weekend mass at his home parish in Delaware, he also attended services on holy days of obligation and made an effort to attend services while traveling. His daughter, Ashley Biden, told the "Today Show" last week about helping her father find a small church to attend mass while on the road in the heat of the Democratic primary campaign, before the pandemic.
But he has also opted for in-home services. Over Christmas, when the Bidens never left their Wilmington home, a close family friend, Rev. Kevin OBrien, a Jesuit priest who is now president of Santa Clara University, celebrated mass for the Bidens virtually.
OBrien was asked by the Bidens to celebrate mass on Inauguration Day a service at Washingtons Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle that included bipartisan congressional leadership and close family and friends. Hed held smaller, private masses for the Bidens before his inauguration as vice president in 2009 and in 2013.
It was something so beautiful because it was so familiar, OBrien told NBC News. I just was so happy that I could help offer that it was really the church offering that to him.
OBrien first met the Bidens while at Holy Trinity and then at Georgetown University. Biden would attend services at both sometime the morning masses at Holy Trinity, or the later service at Georgetowns Dahlgren Chapel, depending on his schedule.
OBrien said he stayed in touch with Biden after he left the vice presidency, and would send him and Jill Biden weekly spiritual encouragements over text message during the campaign something he expects will likely continue with him in the White House.
I'll be of any support I can to them in the next four years, OBrien said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/sunday-services-biden-s-faith-display-renewed-presidential-ritual-n1255460
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With MUCH trepidation, I'm re-posting my comments from another thread - : After 10+ years of lurking on DU, this topic
UbeU_2024
Sunday
#4
Exactly. Equating Harris and trump as evil to some degree shows how evil the RCC is.
erronis
Sunday
#18
It would be nice if we had a Supreme Court that upheld the separation of church and state.
Lonestarblue
Sunday
#21
The last thing I'm going to do is accept moral advice from the fascist, pedophile-protecting catholic church
Plectranthus
Sunday
#6
Ah yes, the well established "I don't like you so you should be banned" principle
tritsofme
Sunday
#23
Well said. This is, to me, the most disappointing thing he's said or done since becoming Pope.
peppertree
Monday
#56
This commentary is about as ridiculous and reactionary as the teachings of the Catholic Church.
tritsofme
Sunday
#15
Old saying, if you can't say something good about someone, don't say anything at all.
paleotn
Sunday
#37
Historically, the Catholic doesn't have much of a track record when it has injected itself into politics
dlk
Sunday
#22
Kinda like a priest that sexually abused alter boys vs one that doesn't? Clean up your own mess!
PortTack
Sunday
#24
The Catholic Church loves them some child rapists. It's not like we didn't know.
onecaliberal
Sunday
#25
Francis could have just not taken the interview until after the election. He chose NOT to endorse Tscf.
lindysalsagal
Sunday
#34
Evangelicals don't mind Catholic's being on their side of 'Right to life' but
Omnipresent
Sunday
#54