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Gaugamela

(3,181 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 06:06 PM 17 hrs ago

MS-NOW: Zelenskyy says Ukraine has agreed to U.S.-Ukraine security guarantees

Looks like Trump’s solution to make Putin happy is to deliver false promises and stab Zelenskyy in the back.

There’s still details to work out for a cease fire.

Trigger warning: Trump blathering his usual election lies, Russia hoax lies, Biden’s an idiot projection, keeps talking about how good the food at Mar-a-Lago is, etc. Twenty-two minutes of the bloated brain-clot splattering his rotten guts all over the place. Not really worth watching.


President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelenskyy speak with press after their bilateral meeting at Mar-a-Lago.
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Autumn

(48,723 posts)
1. Only a fool would trust Trump. But I suppose the security guarantees are worth what the paper
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 06:14 PM
17 hrs ago

they are printed on is worth.

Deuxcents

(25,400 posts)
3. Can't watch and from the headline, I'm not sure that President Z thinks this is an acceptable agreement
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 06:18 PM
17 hrs ago

With his own people. They’ve been deceived too many times in their history and now they’re trying to work with a snake who only wants what will benefit him.

ret5hd

(22,153 posts)
4. Why? the u.s. had ALREADY given Ukraine...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 06:22 PM
17 hrs ago

security agreements when Ukraine gave their nuclear capabilities to Russia…and those agreements were made with MUCH more honorable people than trump.

global1

(26,361 posts)
5. Remember The Old Days When You'd Isolate Both Negotiation Parties In One Room Together And....
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 06:53 PM
16 hrs ago

never let them out until they came to an agreement ?
Those days are over now - they work both sides separately. Each side winds up agreeing with their negotiator.
Then when they get both sides together any deal breaks down.

We keep doing that now and I don't believe we'll ever have an agreement to end this war.

duckworth969

(1,139 posts)
6. Biden has already said Putin won't stop
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:05 PM
13 hrs ago

He’s right.

The war will continue as long as Putin is alive and in control.

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