Sanders will not immediately endorse Biden: MSNBC

[wyldwolf]

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

1. More feel sorry for me and give me money

Ugh

[HarlanPepper]

2. Who cares at this point

If his endorsement mattered he wouldn’t have been crushed in the primary.

[zackymilly]

10. Thank you!

[SiliconValley_Dem]

49. Exactly

[Cha]

55. Well Put!

[MineralMan]

3. Well, OK Then, Bernie...

When you've finished sulking, please let us know.

[zackymilly]

22. How do you really feel? :o) n/t

[MontanaMama]

5. His surrogates need time to bash

VP Biden and the Democratic Establishment before they get behind a 3rd party candidate or worse, the MF himself.

[HarlanPepper]

13. Skank was on TYT last night with a Putinite from The Intercept talking about the Putin plant

Accusing Joe of assault 36 years ago. So I wouldn’t count on that.

[MontanaMama]

38. Sanders surrogates have shown us who the are.

I’ll put my money on them continuing to disrupt.

[The Magistrate]

6. Not Really Unexpected, Sir

He is a stiff-necked old bird, who has difficulty with political realities.

The concession is sufficient endorsement.

His most devoted followers will shift without missing a beat to denouncing Sanders as a sell-out who has betrayed the 'Bernie' movement. He has never been able to exercise leadership, and his endorsement really is not worth much in consequence.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[MyOwnPeace]

51. With you again, Sir.......

Taking satisfaction in his seeing reality should be good enough, considering his modus operandi. As for the drifting remainders, well, you're gonna' have them......

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. Sore loser? Or just fearing the wrath of the Bros?

[violasays]

15. The Second One, I think

There are a ton of people in my class's gc saying they're going to write in Bernie and are very angry. He probably wants to give his supporters time to seethe.

[Cha]

71. They can't handle Democracy. BS had a 30% base campaign..

and he LOST Spending 4x More $$$$ than Joe Biden Did to Win.

And, they were part of that.

They don't give a shite about the Supreme Court, America or The Planet.

[Docreed2003]

8. If that's true

It's weak and total bullshit

[calimary]

9. That's a shame.

C'mon, Senator Sanders. Be big enough. You're halfway there, having finally conceded to reality. Go all the way. Your country needs you now.

[Walleye]

11. Wishy washy.

[George II]

12. Why the fuck not?

[Cha]

72. "Assessing"? "..taking a hard look.. "?

[writes3000]

14. In defense of Bernie, isn't this customary? Let Joe and Bernie build a proper coalition.

We can take a few weeks of doing that. Let’s have some stories and meetings between the two and strategizing together.

Then get the endorsement out with fanfare.

[Aquaria]

77. Who wants a coalition with

Someone only out for himself and his ego?

[Walleye]

16. Watching his speech. He still seems angry and resentful

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. "Angry and resentful" is Bernie's normal presentation.

[Walleye]

24. A little boring, too

[Tipperary]

36. Exactly.

His default setting.

[The Magistrate]

23. That Is The Man's Nature, Sir

Nothing to be done about it.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Cha]

73. shocking.. best to admit defeat gracefully.. it helps

in the long run.

[redstatebluegirl]

17. More proof he is not a democrat.

All he cares about is himself. Watch him try to run on a third party platform if we don't give him everything he wants in ours.

[awesomerwb1]

18. Shocker

More time to bash "the Establishment"?

Will he try to paint Biden as a reckless candidate who endangers other people's lives?

Will he say he's re-evaluating his options as an Independent? (come on, would that really shock you?).

[Iliyah]

20. Redux. . .. . .

[Indykatie]

21. Bernie Has NEVER Been a Dem Team Player So No Surprise - I'd Rather See Warren Endorse Biden Now

[zackymilly]

26. Maybe he's holding out for house #4. n/t

[dhol82]

28. .......

[dhol82]

27. Yeah, figured that was a hill too far.

Hope he does it before the election.

[onecaliberal]

29. Please, give everyone a minute. This is great progress.

[spooky3]

30. Yes. This is much earlier than in 2016. Nt

[rockfordfile]

70. I agree

[GeorgiaPeanut]

31. We've seen this movie before

"My endorsement won't do anything. Biden has to 'earn' my supporters' votes" (which is a dog-whistle for his supporters to 'vote their conscience' and vote for Trump.)

[spooky3]

32. "I will stay on the ballot." But will work with Biden...

[dalton99a]

33. "I will work with you, but I want my supporters to vote against you"

Very, very good Democrat

[ucrdem]

34. Naturally.

[DarthDem]

37. I don't care

The more he makes himself look small, the less influence he has with anyone who is persuadable. And don't think that there are that many "Bernie Bros" who will vote for Mr. Trump, or Stein, or sit out. There are many fewer than there actually seem to be.

[BidenBacker]

39. ATTABOY, BERNIE!

I thought Sanders' concession speech was good enough. We were all bitching and begging for him to drop out and he did, thank God. He coulda dragged it out to the bitter end like 2016 but we don't have to worry about that now. At least this should make some of his more extremist public supporters STFU, so just be thankful for that.

All in all, Bernie did good today. Deserves a second ATTABOY, BERNIE!

[Dennis Donovan]

40. Yamiche Alcindor is reporting something different:

Link to tweet

[mucifer]

41. Still will get tons of Bernie Bashing here. I'm so sick of it I

voted for Warren and neither Biden or Sanders are my first choices.

I hope people can stop the bitterness. But, I don't expect it.

[Cha]

74. And, I am so tired of BS "bashing" the Democratic Party.

Link to tweet

[wyldwolf]

43. We saw the Bernie speech. He did NOT endorse Joe Biden

[Dennis Donovan]

44. "Bernie Sanders is asking his supporters to get behind Joe Biden immediately"

[wyldwolf]

45. "Yamiche Alcindor"

"he conceded (Biden) will win the nomination, but declined to endorse him outright."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-drops-out-suspending-campaign/



"He did not outright endorse Biden." - MSNBC 30 seconds ago.

[BidenBacker]

46. None of the other Dem candidates

endorsed Biden when they suspended their campaigns either. They all did soon afterward but it was a helluva lot more important that they do so at that time with yet more crucial primaries looming dead ahead.

Bernie did what he had to do so don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Expect Warren and many other high-ranking Dems to come out and endorse soon. And get ready for Obama to make an appearance and do the same.

Sanders ain't the enemy...Trump is, along with his entire rotten Republican rearguard. We all better snap outta our Sanders sniping routine and start focusing on the fascists.

[wyldwolf]

47. No one seriously believes Sanders' actions to be a "gift horse."

He literally had NO WHERE to go. It was either drop out or discredit the "progressive" movement for a generation.

[BidenBacker]

50. So why is anybody bitching about his concession today?

What did they expect...for Joe to lead Bernie out on a leash and his hands and knees and have BS lick his shoes and kiss Jill's wedding ring? I'm 99.99% sure that Biden and his boys are pleased with today's events...so I fail to see why DUers aren't also satisfied and exhaling a big sigh of relief.

Considering where we were just a short 5 or 6 weeks ago, we couldn't have asked for a better outcome. It ain't even mid-April and we already have our presumptive nominee...unlike the bitter bloodbaths of 2008 and 2016. Maybe old habits are just hard to break...some folks here have been bashing Bernie for so long (myself included at times) that they are at a loss as to what to do now. No doubt in my mind what's next...besides, reading umpteen threads and posts about how Bernie needs to drop out was getting mighty old mighty fast anyway.

I'm just looking forward to BO entering the public limelight again and start joining the fray...we all know how anything Obama drives the Fuhrer totally up the wall. Hard to believe Trump can possibly get any more unhinged, but if anybody can push him completely over the edge Barack can.

[The Magistrate]

52. It Is True There Is A Good Deal Of Time To Go, Sir

And you may be correct in your analysis of the situation.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[mikelgb]

58. title gore

[Cha]

75. But then he may not.. we have after all

had experience with this kind of situation before.

That would be nice if it were correct.

[The Magistrate]

80. I Agree, Ma'am

Thre is no certainty of a good outcome. There is not even surety of good faith, and the desire for a good outcome, on Sanders' part.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[mikelgb]

42. Warren still hasn't, just another thread to sow discord

[NurseJackie]

54. Warren's not smearing Biden and the party.

Bernie's campaign and surrogates are. Big difference.

[mikelgb]

56. even if he immediately endorsed, there would be some other BS smear against Bernie

[NurseJackie]

59. ...

[mikelgb]

66. I too am an ellipsis fan...

No need to cry yourself to sleep though, it's just DU

[The Magistrate]

61. No, Sir, There Would Not

"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[mikelgb]

64. Sir! yes, Sir!

[The Magistrate]

68. Ah, The Silly Fellow

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So many people posting, some just get lost in the crowd, especially those who seem to have nothing to say.

[Cha]

76. Sen Warren said this about Joe Biden..

Link to tweet

[MyNameGoesHere]

48. Oh so rinse and repeat?

Haven't we seen the play book before?

[mikelgb]

57. you mean this same thread? yeah it's all over this forum

not even rinsed

[NurseJackie]

60. ...

[mikelgb]

67. Rinse and repeat?

[Cha]

62. No.. he doesn't mean "the same thread".

[mikelgb]

63. Thanks for tje reply

[NurseJackie]

53. Just as I suspected. Same dangerous game as before.

[ucrdem]

65. everyday is groundhog day in Vermont.

[uponit7771]

69. Fuck ... not this shit, gives Red Don all the ammo he needs to wind up borbs

[nolawarlock]

78. Briahna Joy Gray is already on Twitter saying she should drop Democrat off of Democratic Socialist ...

… I mean, why bother? We all know from the beginning anyway.

[duforsure]

79. Bernie is again making a huge mistake

By not at once getting behind Joe completely , and without hesitation giving all his support , and asking his supporters do the same. By not doing it now will reduce Biden's numbers in the main election , which is unacceptable , period. His refusal now shows he wasn't presidential material, and isn't for beating trump if he doesn't get his way on some things. Socialist shouldn't be allowed on a Democratic ticket again. What's next if Biden refuses any of his proposals, he runs as a third party candidate ?