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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:38 PM Apr 2020

So Bernie press secretary Briahna Joy Gray official jumps on the Tara Reade train ...

This is just despicable. I'll vote for Bernie if he's the nom, but that's all I will do. Nothing else. This is despicable. That none of his supporters here will even address this just shows you how many of them are probably the ones on Twitter going on about this and are afraid of getting banned.





and this:




Come on, Bernie supporters here … how can you still support this candidate when two of his top three paid surrogates have pushed this obvious lie!?

I do not for a single second think that either Briahna, Nina, or, frankly, any Bernie supporter pushing this lie actually believes it. The story is just so filled whole wholes. Comparing this to Kavanaugh was ridiculous, and, frankly, much as I hated him, I thought even that was on shaky ground. When does this stop becoming about protecting women and start becoming about settling scores?

Does anyone remember the story of the Salem Witch Trials? Look how many had to die and/or be imprisoned because of how many believed those women. Not everyone is telling the truth.
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So Bernie press secretary Briahna Joy Gray official jumps on the Tara Reade train ... (Original Post) nolawarlock Apr 2020 OP
BS won't be our nominee. we can do it Apr 2020 #1
Bernie won't be the nominee. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #2
Sanders legacy has been written when he hired Sirota, Gray, and Turner still_one Apr 2020 #3
I've heard mention TexasTowelie Apr 2020 #13
I agree. still_one Apr 2020 #16
But people are saying "they're not coming from the campaign, they're random tweets". George II Apr 2020 #4
Random tweets? I know! nolawarlock Apr 2020 #5
BTW, Gray is Sanders' National Press Secretary, Sirota was his National Speech Writer, but... George II Apr 2020 #7
Ah. I switched their rolls. Sorry. nolawarlock Apr 2020 #20
Yes, and in true Sanders fashion, he being the advocate for "income equality", he pays.... George II Apr 2020 #25
Despicable. I didn't know that. nolawarlock Apr 2020 #29
There is zero chance or less that Bernie will be Progressive dog Apr 2020 #6
Reporters need to ask Bernie about this mercuryblues Apr 2020 #8
At this point, why bother? Bernie is irrelevant now. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #9
His campaign is pushing these lies mercuryblues Apr 2020 #11
Ask Bernie??! nolawarlock Apr 2020 #19
You don't have to worry about voting for Sanders...stick a fork in him...he is done...this is total Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #10
Good! nolawarlock Apr 2020 #28
Had Sanders been the nominee, I would have voted for him...Trump must go. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #46
Ah Yes, Tara Reade Me. Apr 2020 #12
Reade's Story is Not Consistent Me. Apr 2020 #14
Aloha, Me! Cha Apr 2020 #21
And that ... nolawarlock Apr 2020 #27
Oh dear.. why are the authors Cha Apr 2020 #30
A stupid reason if you ask me ... nolawarlock Apr 2020 #33
Gawd that SUCKS.. but twitter lets the Manical Sociopath in Cha Apr 2020 #37
This! n/t nolawarlock Apr 2020 #39
And Mahalo For That Me. Apr 2020 #32
Yes it is.. I've read it.. and I'm glad you posted Cha Apr 2020 #34
I think BJG is "revolting" for Voting for and Pushing Jill Stein's LIES Cha Apr 2020 #15
According to Briahna Joy Gray and her ilk, Sloumeau Apr 2020 #17
Well said, Sloumeau.. Thank You! Cha Apr 2020 #22
Ford's story was credible ... nolawarlock Apr 2020 #31
I Think It Should've Stopped Him Me. Apr 2020 #36
His campaign continues to undermine any good he might have done. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #18
I think Biden really needs to speak up about this before it gets worse dustyscamp Apr 2020 #23
The last person that's going to be able to use this is Trump. nolawarlock Apr 2020 #26
I've only seen Biden's campaign team deny the allegations. I can't find anywhere where Joe dustyscamp Apr 2020 #35
Official people from the Biden campaign is what I meant by that ... nolawarlock Apr 2020 #40
Sorry, I meant to say Press Secretary ... nolawarlock Apr 2020 #24
Whoa BidenBacker Apr 2020 #38
And still not ONE Berner on a Reade thread ... nolawarlock Apr 2020 #41
Kinda like BS's campaign headquarters parties on primary nights lately BidenBacker Apr 2020 #44
It really is. And it's really disheartening. Jedi Guy Apr 2020 #45
Sanders wanted a scorched earth campaign so he hired these idiots DenverJared Apr 2020 #42
From the flaming wreck of the Sander's campaign a Hail Mary is desperately flung. Scurrilous Apr 2020 #43
Brihana Joy Grey is a nobody - inflated only for her hatred of Democrats GeorgiaPeanut Apr 2020 #47
Why doesn't Sanders make a statement denouncing this and defending Biden. He knows damn well Joe Walleye Apr 2020 #48
If Bernie doesn't fire Brihana because of this la-trucker Apr 2020 #49
 

still_one

(96,440 posts)
3. Sanders legacy has been written when he hired Sirota, Gray, and Turner
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:43 PM
Apr 2020
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TexasTowelie

(116,608 posts)
13. I've heard mention
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:04 PM
Apr 2020

that Biden should hire some of Bernie's campaign staff for his general election campaign since they are savvy with social media. I really hope that discussion was an April Fool's Day joke. I don't think Joe needs to go to that particular well.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
4. But people are saying "they're not coming from the campaign, they're random tweets".
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:43 PM
Apr 2020
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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
5. Random tweets? I know!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:44 PM
Apr 2020

I blocked a Bernie fanatic on my Facebook who first said that Turner, Gray, and Sirota were bots. Then when I demonstrated they were real people, the person then argued that Turner, Gray, and Sirota were random voters influenced by bots.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
7. BTW, Gray is Sanders' National Press Secretary, Sirota was his National Speech Writer, but...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:50 PM
Apr 2020

their incessant attacks are virtually interchangeable.

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
20. Ah. I switched their rolls. Sorry.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:17 PM
Apr 2020

They're still on the payroll.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
25. Yes, and in true Sanders fashion, he being the advocate for "income equality", he pays....
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:21 PM
Apr 2020

Sirota about $140,000 and Gray about $45,000.

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
29. Despicable. I didn't know that.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:26 PM
Apr 2020

Though in this case, I don't know that I can complain given that Sirota's the only one out of the three of those gorgons that's yet to jump on this Reade bandwagon so far as I can see. But maybe they just haven't given him "the eye" yet. [Clash of the Titans reference]

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Progressive dog

(7,219 posts)
6. There is zero chance or less that Bernie will be
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:46 PM
Apr 2020

the Democratic nominee. He and his fanatic followers have lost, but have chosen not to go quietly.
Fortunately most of his followers have realized that continuing to support him helps Trump and the Republicans keep power.

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mercuryblues

(15,081 posts)
8. Reporters need to ask Bernie about this
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:50 PM
Apr 2020

His silence=endorsing

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,684 posts)
9. At this point, why bother? Bernie is irrelevant now.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:53 PM
Apr 2020
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mercuryblues

(15,081 posts)
11. His campaign is pushing these lies
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:57 PM
Apr 2020

If they are not fired, it means he endorses it. That will not be a pretty look when he runs for Senate again. If he doesn't, he deserves to be primaried.

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
19. Ask Bernie??!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:15 PM
Apr 2020

His press secretary is pushing this vile crap. She's basically the mouth of Sauron.

I am so beyond enraged about this and I see that yet another post addressing this Reade issue is ignored by the Bernie supporters here. For shame!

Frankly, I partly blame Alyssa Milano and #MeToo for this. They had to know on some level that they were creating a McCarythite-style situation where even innocence is not a defense. What should have been a way to help victims of abuse and assault has become just another way to take out one's political and economic enemies.

Read Paul Boyer and Stephen Nissenbaum's Salem Possessed. It'd dry as hell but it explains the Salem Witch Trials of 1692 in terms of these social conflicts. It wasn't rye bread that made those girls lie. The allegedly afflicted Abigail Williams herself said, "We do it for sport." The people in power took advantage of what these girls probably saw as their one chance at a meaningful life in a Puritan society where Children barely had any childhood at all.

When someone says, "why would so and so lie about ______," well, look to the trials. When every other motive is offf the table, good-old-fashioned attention is always on the menu and some just don't care how negative that attention is because they're martyrs to their own fantasies.

And the people that these crazy liars and those who seek to exploit them hurt the most are actual victims of sexual assault. And that is, perhaps, the most egregious facet of this.

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Demsrule86

(70,995 posts)
10. You don't have to worry about voting for Sanders...stick a fork in him...he is done...this is total
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:56 PM
Apr 2020

bullshit-no on will believe it. But this is why Sanders needs to end his campaign...he only helps Trump.

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
28. Good!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:25 PM
Apr 2020

I know I can't say I'd stay home and my conscience wouldn't let me do so anyway. But I have cost myself thousands of Trumpy customers for my four retail shops, two festivals, publishing company, tour company, and every other pie I have my fingers in by constantly bashing Trump and promoting Democrats to my tens of thousands of fans. That stops if he's the nom. ALL Bernie Sanders will get is my vote. NOTHING else. Obviously I will not be here during the general because I won't be able to find it in myself to cheer him on. I'll simply pull a lever and that's it.

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Demsrule86

(70,995 posts)
46. Had Sanders been the nominee, I would have voted for him...Trump must go.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:12 PM
Apr 2020
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
12. Ah Yes, Tara Reade
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:03 PM
Apr 2020

“In 2017 Alexandra Tara Reade Praised Joe Biden for Helping End Sexual Assault.

In 2017 Alexandra Tara Reade praised Joe Biden for his action in helping stop sexual assault, not just once, but on multiple occasions.

Also in March of 2017, Reade made a tweet claiming that Joe Biden “speaks truth,” and encouraged her followers to “listen” to him.”

https://medium.com/@eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
14. Reade's Story is Not Consistent
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:05 PM
Apr 2020

"In an article Reade wrote in 2009, she claimed to have left Washington DC for the midwest because her husband Tate, at the time, had received a job offer for a Congressman. She claims to have also received a job offer to work for a Governor’s race in California around the same time period.

However, in the article “Bring on the Light,” which Reade wrote in December of 2018, and has since deleted, she stated that she left politics and Washington DC because she was sick of American imperialism and because she “love[d] Russia with all her heart.”

” Also in an article she wrote on April 6, 2019, Reade claimed that she didn’t even know if Biden knows why she left working for him:

I wish I could say there was a happy ending, that Senator Biden apologized or that he helped make amends, he did not. I do not even know if he realized why I left.

But then in March of 2020, Reade says that Biden fired her:”

https://medium.com/eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

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Cha

(305,196 posts)
21. Aloha, Me!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:18 PM
Apr 2020

If you take the "@" out of the url is works..

Evidence Casts Doubt on Tara Reade’s Sexual Assault Allegations of Joe Biden

https://medium.com/eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460

Thank you for that!

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
27. And that ...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:22 PM
Apr 2020

as perfectly gathered as that info is, anytime you post it on Twitter, they that the authors were banned from Twitter but fail to address the provable veracity of their claims. These are actual screenshots!

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Cha

(305,196 posts)
30. Oh dear.. why are the authors
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:29 PM
Apr 2020

banned from twitter?

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
33. A stupid reason if you ask me ...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:32 PM
Apr 2020
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Cha

(305,196 posts)
37. Gawd that SUCKS.. but twitter lets the Manical Sociopath in
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:42 PM
Apr 2020

in the WH have free rein to try and destroy our country and Planet.

Damn I wish there was a way to see what the Krassensteins have to say without Twitter.

Bullshite their "rules are for everybody.

Thanks for the article, Nola

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
32. And Mahalo For That
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:32 PM
Apr 2020

It's a good read on Reade...


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Cha

(305,196 posts)
34. Yes it is.. I've read it.. and I'm glad you posted
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:35 PM
Apr 2020

it for anyone else who's interested.

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Cha

(305,196 posts)
15. I think BJG is "revolting" for Voting for and Pushing Jill Stein's LIES
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:07 PM
Apr 2020

in the GE.

She and Sirota are all a part of assisting trump getting rigged in.. they have his blood on their hands.. IN MY OPINION.

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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
17. According to Briahna Joy Gray and her ilk,
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:10 PM
Apr 2020

people are not allowed to decide for themselves who to believe and who not to believe. To Ms. Gray, if you do not believe Tara Reade's shaky story, you must be just the same as the Republicans who claimed not to believe Christine Blasey Ford. Here's the problem with that. Every Biden supporter that I know that doubts Ms. Reade supported Ms. Ford.

Apparently, in Ms. Gray's world, people, both men and women, must believe every sexual assault assertion ever made by any woman. In her world, no one is allowed to decide on a case by case basis. Our entire system of law is based on deciding things on a case by case basis. Ms. Gray's position is absurd.

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Cha

(305,196 posts)
22. Well said, Sloumeau.. Thank You!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:19 PM
Apr 2020
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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
31. Ford's story was credible ...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:30 PM
Apr 2020

… and even then, I don't think it should have stopped Kavanaugh, much as I loathe the man. It should have *paused* thinks so they could investigate properly. I may be a rarity in this world but I believe that innocence must matter, even in those I despise. And I also believe that the moment a person has to lie for their cause, they no longer have one. See Team Tara for an example.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
36. I Think It Should've Stopped Him
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:38 PM
Apr 2020

He lied to Congress, the man who wanted to be one of our top jurors lied to Congress and that is a crime.

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TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
18. His campaign continues to undermine any good he might have done.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:11 PM
Apr 2020

It's basically a parody of itself now.

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dustyscamp

(2,324 posts)
23. I think Biden really needs to speak up about this before it gets worse
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:19 PM
Apr 2020

When Bernie finally drops out, this won't go away. Trump will surely use this against him on the campaign trail. People who don't follow politics closely are starting to think that Joe's sexual assault allegations are equal to Trumps and we all know that isn't true. If he does make a statement and people don't believe him he would at least get a few more people to believe him

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
26. The last person that's going to be able to use this is Trump.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:21 PM
Apr 2020

I mean, seriously. Biden's got some women that think he sniffed them a little too closely. Trump's got 17 accusors of sexual assault and actual statements about grabbing women by the pussy and having the privilege of walking into the Miss Universe dressing room while the girls were all naked.

Biden already did speak up about it and said it was false. Next!

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dustyscamp

(2,324 posts)
35. I've only seen Biden's campaign team deny the allegations. I can't find anywhere where Joe
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:38 PM
Apr 2020

personally made a statement on this. Well, Trump is very good at downplaying and misdirection. I see him running ads on tv and radio twenty four seven. People who never bothered to look into this will be listening these ads on their car radio on election day and it could have some effect on their choices.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-21/donald-trump-youtube-ads-will-dominate-election-day

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
40. Official people from the Biden campaign is what I meant by that ...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:51 PM
Apr 2020

… and that's more than this story frankly warrants. If I come out and say Joe Biden emerged from my toilet and started peeing all over the floor, should that get national media attention"?

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
24. Sorry, I meant to say Press Secretary ...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:19 PM
Apr 2020

… that's what I get for typing in a state of rage.

Though I far prefer her other title …

The Mouth of Sauron.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
38. Whoa
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:47 PM
Apr 2020

First a double-dose of stupid from Katie Halper this morning and now a triple-dose from Briahna No-Joy Gray.

Think I better go lay down...feeling kinda woozy.

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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
41. And still not ONE Berner on a Reade thread ...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:52 PM
Apr 2020

… the silence is deafening.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
44. Kinda like BS's campaign headquarters parties on primary nights lately
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:06 PM
Apr 2020

chirp...chirp...chirp...

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Jedi Guy

(3,308 posts)
45. It really is. And it's really disheartening.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:11 PM
Apr 2020

People of good conscience can disagree on political positions and policies in a respectful way. That's not what's going on here. Bernie is apparently entirely comfortable with scorched earth if it gets him what he wants. If he destroys a good man's chance at the Presidency, so be it. I was no fan of Bernie to start with, but these days I find him disgusting and repulsive. Anyone still supporting him is, for all intents and purposes, enabling him in this bullshit, and they should be ashamed.

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DenverJared

(457 posts)
42. Sanders wanted a scorched earth campaign so he hired these idiots
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:00 PM
Apr 2020

and now, like Wile E. Coyote, it has blown up in his face.

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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
43. From the flaming wreck of the Sander's campaign a Hail Mary is desperately flung.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:01 PM
Apr 2020

*plop* 'Why, oh why, won't anyone flock to our obvious lie?' Meanwhile head catapulter Glenn Greenwald states that there are reports that 'top' Democrats are scrambling to delete their comments from the time of the Kavanaugh hearings supporting #MeToo.

Huh? Wha? Real life doesn't have a delete button.

This nonsense BTW coming from the same weaseldick who deleted 27,000 tweets in July 2018 because his racket was in need of a reboot to remove his many glaring inconsistencies.







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GeorgiaPeanut

(360 posts)
47. Brihana Joy Grey is a nobody - inflated only for her hatred of Democrats
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:22 PM
Apr 2020

Pretty soon, she will be making coffee for a bunch of executives in some corporation.

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Walleye

(35,265 posts)
48. Why doesn't Sanders make a statement denouncing this and defending Biden. He knows damn well Joe
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:55 PM
Apr 2020

Wouldn’t and didn’t do this. What the hell is wrong with Bernie?

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la-trucker

(283 posts)
49. If Bernie doesn't fire Brihana because of this
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:05 PM
Apr 2020

he is worse ... far worse.... than I thought

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