Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumAaaaaaand the Berners are already attacking Civil Rights icon John Lewis ...
Now that Lewis has endorsed Biden, it didn't take long for the Berners to come for him, on other threads and on Lewis' own. Im waiting for the low information voter, youre voting against your interests, and other completely racist comments to get hurled. Sexism, racism, homophobia. Its all in a days posts for the average Bernie fan on Twitter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jedi Guy
(3,308 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)He'll win the day with a massive influx of Neckbeards, Furries, and Juggalos.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)'Bernie' marched with Dr. King, you know! Why should this fellow Lewis steal 'Bernie's' thunder as an iconic leader for Civil Rights? Who does he think he is, anyway!
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,474 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WinstonSmith4740
(3,156 posts)The Bernie Bros are just attracted to authoritariansim? For them to say they'll vote for Trump instead of Biden is a screaming siren. I do think that a lot of them are still clinging to the Susan Sarandon school of "Trump will cause The Rebellion", and haven't noticed the deterioration of the balance of power that has been the hallmark of our democracy. I urge them to remember one of the lessons of "1984"..."the proles will never revolt".
And I'm still waiting for something beyond "tax the millionaires and billionaires" as how he's going to pay for universal health care. In fact, I'm waiting for an explanation of anything he's proposing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)These people, whether they know it or not, believe in the Great Man model of history and politics. It is not just wanting to be led, though that is part of the urge. Desire to continue in irresponsibility is the chief motivation. Under leadership of a Great Man, no one really has to do anything themselves. He will take care of things, all will be in his capable hands.
"So much of left wing thought amounts to a sort of playing with fire by people who don't even know fire is hot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I keep seeing this all over Twitter and Facebook. I'll give the Berners this much. I do think this crisis will bring us closer than we've ever been to some crazy uprising but here's the thing
We are not the truly impoverished Egyptians who brought about the Arab Spring or other places where things are truly so bad and have been for so long that people were forged in adversity.
We are Tiger King America. We lag behind most industrialized nations in quality education. We get our intellectual sustenance from the Real Housewives. Even these homeless Berners I've seen roaming the streets of New Orleans and calling themselves gutterpunks are carrying expensive smart phones. Americans today lack the fortitude, temerity, and resilience for rebellion.
This Bernie movement is little more than something for most of them to do so that they feel like their life has meaning. It's certainly not about actually getting anything done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)He has certainly generated alot of "enthusiasm" among his twitter fan club.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,152 posts)They attacked Lewis at the 2016 Convention,too. Pure unadulterated white trash. It is up to Nernie to stop them!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,287 posts)It boggles the mind that someone would criticize a civil rights icon. He is a national hero, and should be regarded as such.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)than otherwise, LW and RW groups just vary in how FAR conservative they lean. Trump-Sanders movements perfect examples, including in the movement of followers from one to the other.
In any case, when Sanders mounted a populist movement to get power, that meant inevitably that he would have to serve the hostility of his "red in tooth and claw" populists on race and immigration issues especially. His LW class-warfare movement is also both relatively lite white power and nativist because it has to be to grow power from them.
In a very real sense, populistmovements are about turning the garbage in and among us into power.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(147,482 posts)Democratic Nominating Convention. His crime? Speaking in favor of the nomination of Hillary Clinton.
It was a shameful performance by Sanders' delegates and staff. That Senator Sanders never chided those who booed Lewis is an even greater shame, I believe. He is paying for that in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)No! He sat there grinning like a shit eating dog. I watched it with my own eyes. He sat there grinning as his minions booed the greatest living American. Who got his head beat in almost to his death on the freedom march. And then sat next to MLK as he gave one of the best 2 speeches in American history on the national mall. As the leader of the Civil rights youth movement.
It was one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen. And will piss me off till the day I die or Bernie is off the stage. Actually till the day I die.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(154,202 posts)This was a planned stunt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,454 posts)Booing a Civil Rights Hero.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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DenverJared
(457 posts)They are a bunch of privileged, whiny, entitled people who won't be affected by Trump getting reelected because of their affluence.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(27,255 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bayard
(24,145 posts)(Me in my mask). He travels all over the place and has various health issues, so really glad he's not sick (knock on wood). Half the barns he goes to have self-isolated to where even he isn't allowed.
Anyway, he was telling me that a lot of people he's talking to on the East coast HATE BIDEN. Many are Bernie people, but not all. He had no ideas on the why, and I am completely puzzled. Thoughts?
He also told me a good place to get sterilizing wipes are lab supply places. They look like baby wipes, but have alcohol in them. The labs use them to decontaminate surfaces. Pretty strong though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,202 posts)sanders has very poor judgement on staffing issues. Hiring and not firing Sirota is one example. Hiring Stein voters is another example of very poor judgement by sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)has more courage in his right little pinky finger than Trump does in his entire rotten bone-spurred carcass. He also apparently has more character in his left little pinky finger than all of Bernie's Twitter commando squad put together.
Pretty impressive when a single man can best the alt-left and the alt-right with only just his pinky fingers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)needs to have HIS skull cracked open by a nightstick-wielding fascist cop? Might knock that "holier than thou" attitude outta him and a little common sense into him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....blaming Tom Perez and the DNC for the Wisconsin Primary proceeding today.
He's running for Congress but doesn't know how elections in the US work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)I'm guessing it ain't got too many POC in it. For his sake it better be a lily-white upscale Yuppie CD trashing Lewis and dissing Perez like that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)The dude is a POC himself...
https://anthony2020.com/
Just proves that kids these days can get wrapped around Bernie's axle regardless of their color.
The ghost of Elijah Cummings needs to pull an Ebenezer Scrooge and visit him at the stroke of 1 to try and talk a little sense into him. This young man needs to learn that you advance progress by standing on the shoulders of giants who proceeded you...not by chopping them off at the knees.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....Dina Titus in Nevada. She won her primary in 2018 by 57% (78-21) and the general election by 36% (66-30).
This clown's in it for the publicity and the disruption, he has zero chance of being NV-01's Democratic candidate in November. He's just another Democratic Socialist of America looking for notoriety (see the red rose in his Twitter profile?)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)love that gal. She doesn't pull any punches from what I've seen...LOL.
Kid's probably got no chance. Titus has an overall 94.11% lifetime progressive score on all votes...probably about the best one could hope for in a state like Nevada.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)It may be "safe" for liberal Democrats...but I seriously doubt it's all that safe for socialists...LOL.
Dina in a landslide.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,196 posts)Where was BS when Joe Biden and other Leaders were at the Edmund Pettus Bridge, honoring John Lewis and all the other civil rights activists, who Marched on Bloody Sunday?
Thanks for that tweet with John Lewis and MLK, George!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Sanders as a young Marxist student was one of a crowd in a large demostration led by Doctor King to promote integrated housing in Chicago. 'Bernie' had the incredible good luck to be photographed in the hands of two of 'Chicago's finest' being hauled bodily to a paddy wagon. If recollection serves, he was in the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) while in school. What Sanders actually did after breaking with that body was book off to one of the whitest states in the Union in 1968. Apparently, by the way, in good time to avoid any participation in the several extremely active days of the Democratic Convention that year in Chicago.
It's one helluva record. Seems to me he's got Rep. Lewis just beat to a cocked hat as an ardent crusader for Civil Rights. Or maybe just beat upside the head with a billy club --- but that was Rep. Lewis, at Selma, wasn't it? Not 'Bernie'....
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....for that one day to ATTEND the March on Washington as one of 250,000 others in this photograph. He wasn't on the platform, he was nowhere near MLK Jr. or the other civil rights leaders, he was down amongst the crowd far away.
The next time he was "south" of the Mason Dixon Line wasn't even in the US, it was when he was Mayor about 20 years later and he visited Nicaragua, where trashed the United States.
I don't know that he had any documented visits to America's "Deep South" at all, just campaign events decades later. He surely wasn't at either of the "Bloody Sunday" commemorative gatherings at the Edmund Pettus Bridge earlier this year. For the first one he was hosting a rock concert in the LA area.
No, other than a sit-in when he was in college, where he was fined $25, he never put his life on the line like John Lewis or any of the other Civil Rights leaders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)going on for civil rights very often at all.
Lily white Vermont is where he's more at home, clearly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sweetloukillbot
(12,584 posts)I lost all respect for Occupy at that moment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)and BS should, though so far he hasn't paid attention, because all of this on his behalf by those who are his base, brings his judgment into question.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,202 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)so all I see of that cesspool is what you folks post here. I'd be curious if they are also going after Sherrod Brown now after his endorsement earlier today.
It's all so Trumpian it's kinda scary. Step outta line and they all pounce on somebody like a bunch of piranhas feeding on a wounded fish.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(114,990 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stevegberg
(80 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,440 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,202 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden