The Pandemic Makes the Bernie 2020 Campaign More Vital Than Ever

[Uncle Joe]

Pressure on Bernie Sanders to quit the presidential race is intensifying. Over the weekend, the Washington Post splashed a major story under the headline "Some Top Sanders Advisers Urge Him to Consider Withdrawing." While sheltering at home, comedian Larry David couldn’t curb his enthusiasm for an end to the campaign, telling a New York Times columnist: "I feel he should drop out. Because he’s too far behind. He can’t get the nomination."

OK, at this point it’s highly unlikely—though still possible—that Sanders can gain enough delegates to become the Democratic nominee. But the Bernie 2020 campaign has never been only about winning. It has always also been about strengthening vital progressive movements while widening public discourse and political space.

(snip)

Yet now, to hear mass media and the party establishment tell it, Sanders should immediately cease expanding the public discourse during this election cycle. Demands that Sanders quit the race are getting louder by the day—insisting that he function like a traditional politician rather than a movement candidate.

But those calls for normal political behavior are coming at a time when conditions are anything but normal. The coronavirus pandemic is a truly unprecedented life-and-death emergency on a scale so vast that it’s difficult to comprehend. The conditions—and timeworn assumptions—that have made it so deadly in the United States go far beyond the criminal negligence of top officials in the Trump administration.

(snip)

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/04/06/pandemic-makes-bernie-2020-campaign-more-vital-ever-0

[BlueLucy]

1. No it doesn't.

[mikelgb]

24. Yes it does.

[SCantiGOP]

37. No it doesn't.

[mikelgb]

48. Yes it does.

[Cha]

49. No it Doesn't.. Just the Opposite.. It's Vital that BS

Drops OUT because he has No Chance to WIN. Even his own Surrogates are asking him to Drop OUT.

Beyond Shakir and Jayapal, longtime strategist Jeff Weaver has privately made a case that exiting the race more quickly and on good terms with Biden would give Sanders more leverage in the long run, according to one of the people; the other said Weaver has used a light touch in presenting his case. Weaver and Jayapal did not return calls and messages seeking comment. Shakir declined to comment.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287696396

And, Larry David.. "It's no time to fool around here".

BS campaign thought they would win with a 30% base.. they Lost Spending 4x More $$$$ than Joe Biden did to WIN.

[Newest Reality]

52. Oh...

No it doesn't and yes it does, but actually it is neither and, in the final analysis not that either.

[LongtimeAZDem]

44. No, it doesn't; Bernie is risking the lives and livelihoods of Americans

That should matter to him

[mikelgb]

46. No more than Joe Biden is.

[Cha]

50. Joe Biden WON BS LOST.. BS is Risking LIVES

[Demsrule86]

73. Biden is a winner...he destroyed Sanders...so Sanders must bow out...it is really sad at this point.

He looks almost...well sad and perhaps desperate to be meaningful.

[sheshe2]

74. Wait a second.

Your response:

mikelgb
46. No more than Joe Biden is.

was to this:

LongtimeAZDem (4,259 posts)
44. No, it doesn't; Bernie is risking the lives and livelihoods of Americans

That should matter to him

You just admitted that Bernie was risking American lives and livelihoods. Your words. Not my words, yours. Joe is not the one digging his feet in the sand saying he refuses to quit when he has no chance to win.

Joe's Coronavirus forum the other night was wonderful as he tried to help concerned parents and children. For Joe, he is all about the American people and understands the long hard haul it will take to tilt our axis upright again. It is going to take years.

[LongtimeAZDem]

90. Biden has 1/3 more votes than Sanders, and is massively out-polling him

Last edited Mon Apr 6, 2020, 07:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Bernie's people are just clinging to the hope that something will happen to Biden, if not actively promoting libel.

It's despicable, and it will cost people dearly.

[Cha]

56. YES.. BS said THIS.. Were they Just Words to him?..

Donald Trump must be defeated,” Bernie Sanders insists, “and I will do everything in my power to make that happen.”

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287673175

Good point.. not just Lives which is the Most Important obviously but our Jobs.. the way they make money to EAT and for Shelter.

[Paka]

70. How is Senator Sanders risking lives?

It is your guy telling people to go out and vote Tuesday in Wisconsin, not Bernie. That is risking lives!

[LongtimeAZDem]

92. The only reason there is a primary AT ALL is because Sanders clings to a delusional campaign

Biden is beating Sanders by almost 20 points in Wisconsin polls; Bernie CANNOT win.

He is the one forcing the issue, not Biden.

[Paka]

68. +1,000

Senator Sanders is a critically important voice at this crucial time.

[LongtimeAZDem]

93. All he is doing is helping Trump

[Paka]

105. I need more specifics.

Tell me in a non-sound bite way how he is helping Trump. He is not runing down Biden in any way, he is daily showing how rediculous Trump and his handling of the Covid-19 issue is, he is simply adding a much need voice to this crisis. If Bernie had 200 delagates more than Biden would you be demanding that Joe drop out? I don't think so. If your chosen candidate is so weak he can't share the moment with anyone, then you need to take stock.

At this critical time we need all the rational voices to speak out and that includes Senator Sanders. He is hurting no one by staying in so that he has a forum that allows him to reach a bigger audience in a crisis that gives support to one of his major issues, Health Care for All.

I don't mean this as any criticism of VP Biden, but if you want to take it that way to justify an alert on me, go right ahead.

[LongtimeAZDem]

107. It's very simple:

He cannot win, and he a large group of supporters who grow more rabid with their attacks against Biden every day.

The longer he stays in, the less time he will have to rally his supporters to Biden (if he is actually so inclined), and so all he will accomplish is hurt Biden's chances of beating Trump.

That's all there is to it.

We all know what the issues are; this is no longer some theoretical discussion of differing approaches.

We need to kick Donald Trump out of the White House. The continued campaign of Bernie Sanders does nothing to help that goal, and becomes a greater hindrance every day.

[HarlanPepper]

111. God, this is amazing schadenfreude

Please proceed.

[dem4decades]

2. More like it makes Sander'send of the campaign more vital than ever.

[DavidDvorkin]

3. All he's doing is damaging our chances of winning the White House in November

That's the only thing that matters right now. This article is nonsense.

[Sloumeau]

4. Bernie has no chance to win the primary.

He would have no chance to beat Donald Trump if he were the nominee. He would have no chance to pass his agenda if he became President. Three strikes, and he is out.

[Hoyt]

5. Sanders helped give us trump in 2016, and might do same in 2020.

[Uncle Joe]

6. Who helped give us Trump?

[The Magistrate]

12. Give Us Your Answer, Sir

"Enquiring minds want to know!"





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Uncle Joe]

14. Who was the candidate running against Trump?

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure it out sir.

[The Magistrate]

15. An Odd Illustration For The Purpose, Sir

Any particular reason you did not put up a picture of the person you have in mind?

"Enquiring minds want to know!"

[Uncle Joe]

18. I thought that pic hammered the point home,

true leadership is defined by accepting responsibility for one's failures or mistakes not whining about it, making petty excuses or "passing the buck."

[The Magistrate]

20. You Thought A Picture Of A Man From Seventy Years Ago Does What, Sir?

There is an old jest from Communist Poland, in which a fellow is telling the bartender a joke about how dim policemen can be, and halfway through it somebody down the bar pipes up 'Hey, I'm a policeman!' So the fellow says, 'That's all right, I'll speak v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y."

So consider me an old Polish policeman from about 1973 or so, and try to tell me, v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y so I'm sure to comprehend it, just what you have in mind....

[BidenBacker]

51. Hey, can I play this idiotic game too?

I blame this guy...



If he hadn't freed the slaves then they couldn't vote so Bernie woulda won a few more lily-white caucuses.

[msongs]

23. true leadership is putting together an effective coalition to get things done. leaves bernie out nt

[Uncle Joe]

25. Nothing has been done yet until that magical number has been crossed or Bernie withdraws. n/t

[sweetloukillbot]

27. I thought Bernie wanted the person with the most delegates to get the nomination regardless? n/t

[The Magistrate]

36. Silly Rabbit, That's Only When 'Bernie' Is Leading

'Bernie' knows the people really want 'Bernie' and only 'Bernie', whether they know it or not! And he means to give them all the 'Bernie' they need!

[FloridaBlues]

41. Maybe after sanders losing Wisconsin a state he won perhaps he will step out?

Maybe joe needs to win every county just like the past many states. One can hope.

[The Magistrate]

32. Mr. Biden Being The Sole Democrat In The Contest Now, Sir

The Party would be within its rights, but well advised, to begin treating the primary over, and Mr. Biden the presumptive nominee. Leading figures could, and should, begn making public endorsements, monies can and ought to be raised for general election purposes, and the convention, as a virtual assembly, tailored so no slightest possibility of floor demonstrations or other disruptions by 'Bernie' delegates exists.

Time to stop treating the affair like it's bean-nag, instead of politics....


"Americans love a winner! And hate a loser!"





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[msongs]

38. bernie's had 4 yrs to put together a winning coalition lol. doesnt have the goods nt

[TwilightZone]

76. He's had 30 years to put together a coalition.

From what I can see, he's never made much of an attempt.

[Demsrule86]

77. If Bernie gives a damn about this country and/or beating Trump, he would end his campaign and go

back to his paid job which he is not working at in the Senate.

[Demsrule86]

80. If we wait for that magical number, Trump will win. I guess some want that to

happen...scorched earth for sure.

[sheshe2]

99. magical

[TexasTowelie]

114. Just like I was told after Beto withdrew:

Get over it.

Bernie lost. We've known that for the past month. His supporters need to accept the reality that Bernie will not receive the nomination and start supporting Biden as our next president.

[tirebiter]

28. So, get on with the facing up thing

Bernie’s got the bucks.

[Thekaspervote]

35. NO.. it didn't "hammer" the point home! Please stop with these kinds of posts

When even sanders campaign staff tell him it’s time to drop out, I’d venture to say something is “hammered home”

DROP OUT BERNIE

[The Magistrate]

45. To Be Fair, Sir, A Man Without A Point Can't Hammer One Home...

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[BidenBacker]

62. Confucius say...

"Man cannot use hammer when he has screw loose."

Come to think of it, that may have been Home Depot that said that.

[The Magistrate]

69. Sounds More Like Home Depot Tha Master Kong, Sir

"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[BidenBacker]

71. Okay, let's try this one

"Don't go apeshit over Sanders" --King Kong

[The Magistrate]

81. Personally, Sir

I am quite fond of the Confucian 'Analects' and have read as well in the more recondite 'Spring and Autumn Annals'. The name derives from Latinization of Kong Fuzi (there are some diacriticals beyond the fonts here), meaning 'Master Kong', Kong being the family name. That comes first in Chinese style. Our ambassador to China towards the end of WWII was apparently unaware of this, and spoke of Chiang Kai-Shek as 'Mr. Shek', roughly equivalent to using 'Mister Joe' in addressing Mr. Biden.

The italicized quote I often append in this forum to my posts is the signature line I have used here for ages, and shows in posts outside this forum still. It is a slightly condensed presentation of a key speech in the 'Analects', when Master Kong is asked by a pupil why the first thing he would do as ruler was attend to 'the rectification of names'. I have substituted 'people become uneasy' for 'rites and rituals cannot be performed properly' because the latter would convey little meaning to most people reading it here, and uneasiness among the people was a consequence of poor ritual performance, which interfered with their proper relation to Heaven.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[BidenBacker]

84. Haven't read much Far East religion and philosophy

Closest I've come to that area are some excellent books on Tibetan Buddhism...some by the current Dalai Lama as well as other lamas like Sogyal Rinpoche. I sometimes squeeze these in between history and science.

What I've learned so far is that Tibetan Buddhism teaches us that "nothing is permanent"...but that's okay because quantum physics is discovering that "nothing is real" anyway!

[The Magistrate]

86. Tibetan Buddhism Is Not Nearly So Cuddly As It Is Made Out To Be, Sir

Look up a fellow known as Baron Roman von Ungern-Sternberg, who operated in Mongolia around the end of the Russian Civil War. Strange stuff....

In fact, Buddhism in China generally takes on characteristics quite foreign to Western conceptions. It has sprouted apocalyptic millennial cults, such as the White Lotus, which have given rise to major armed rebellions in the last few Imperial centuries. Militia movements, such as the 'Big Swords' and 'Red Spears' (no relation to the Communists), were prominent early in the twentieth century, raised and led by Buddhist monks, operating to defend localities from bandits, and against the Japanese in Manchuria.

As you may be guessing, this is one of my subjects, and I am attached to it. I should have realized how 'Master Kong ' might have been taken, and stuck to the familiar name.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[BidenBacker]

91. The basic teachings of many religions

and what men actually do with it are two totally different things. I would hazard a guess that far fewer people have been killed because of Tibetan Buddhism than have been slaughtered by those quoting from the Bible, the Torah and the Koran. But sounds like you would know better than I if that is a good guess or not.

I'm not a real big fan of any "organized religion"... but I must admit I've sometimes found some small amount of solace in scratching just the surface of Buddhism during the loss of some family members or friends in the past. But quite honestly I also find just as much comfort studying science...whether the topic is the entire Universe covered by cosmology or the infinitesimal world of quantum physics.

[The Magistrate]

95. In Such Calculations, Sir, One Must Allow For Density Of The Field Of Endeavor

I am simply pointing out that what makes it over here is what one might call 'high' Buddhism, and often bears little relation to actual common practice where the faith is widely held. I have found Confucian and Taoist writings illuminating and enlightening, but am under no illusion that what I perceive in them would come close to what someone sitting for the provincial exams a few centuries ago took them as meaning.

[BidenBacker]

96. Exact same problem with studying history

Learning history is easy...comprehending it is the hard part.

It's almost impossible to study past history whether recent or ancient without viewing it through skewed 21st century eyes. The people during the time being read about had different values, customs, morals and knowledge than we do now. Plus with our hindsight we know what happened as a result of the choices they made or did not make. Our past was their future so we can know what they could not.

It's very difficult for most people to erase these inevitable biases from our minds and put ourselves back in time to when these people were alive and breathing. That's why it sometimes helps to read works that were written by eyewitnesses or not long after the period in question and how I slowly learned that "newer" isn't always "better" when it comes to history books. Unlike science...LOL.

[The Magistrate]

97. That Is Spot-On, My Friend

They called journalism 'the rough draft of history', yet it is invaluable to get some sense of what things looked like at the time. There is a tendency to accept what happened as happening inevitably, and even if that is a correct assessment, it would not have seemed inevitable to many while it was occurring.

[ehrnst]

115. Which candidates running against Trump were supported by Russia and the GOP?

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure it out sir.

[George II]

34. Need you ask?

[sheshe2]

82. What does Truman have to do with Bernie?

The slogan?

If that were true and the buck stops with him why is it always that we hear that it is the medias fault that he is losing? From BS and his supporters:

He does not get enough media attention.

They are so mean to him.

How dare they quote Bernie. They are all haters when they quote his very own words.

Sadly it is everyone else's fault and not his or his dysfunctional campaign staff. Today, even they are telling him to drop out.

We are in a severe crisis. It is time to put the county over oneself.

[The Magistrate]

87. He Lacks The Nerve, Ma'am, To Openly Assail Mrs. Clinton

That is clearly his object, but he knows what response he would get, and how completely Sanders' 2016 contributions to the installation of the cheap thug in the White House would be aired out, if he dared.

[sheshe2]

88. Truth, Sir.

Also it is time...time to exit stage left with some grace and leave it to the Democrats to clean up the filth of the last three plus years. We always have to do the heavy lifting.

[LizBeth]

21. He is working hard on it.

[Cha]

58. Thank you for the REALITY!! DAMN!

[we can do it]

7. Enough already.

[The Magistrate]

8. This Has Been Another Episode Of Lame Comments From No One In Particular, Sir

There is a bit of wisdom in the mess, though, and it is this:

"But the Bernie 2020 campaign has never been only about winning."

Rather a damning indictment, actually....

"Americans love a winner! And hate a loser."





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Indykatie]

9. Pandemic or Not Bernie Has NO Change to Win or Even Amass the Most Delegates Unless Biden

suffers a tragedy that takes him out of the race. Do you really expect Bernie to start winning 60% of the vote in non-caucus races? Even if he did, with the proportional allocation of delegates that still won't be enough.

[empedocles]

31. Hard to imagine the Dem Party, based on 2020 primary results, would ever nominate

trump's favorite Dem candidate, to be the Dem November nominee.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

40. But that does weaken the Democratic Party

Of course, Bernie, being a Democrat (for now) wouldn't want to do that...

[Orrex]

10. Yeah. No.

Since Sanders has failed at another futile bid for the Democratic nomination, he should abandon his vanity campaign and back Biden.

Of course, Sanders the self-aggrandizing, Sanders the divider, Sanders the self-declared foe of Democrat and Republican alike will never do what's best for the party if he can instead do what's best for Sanders.

[George II]

22. Sorry Senator Sanders, you're wrong here:

Link to tweet

I've got news for the Independent establishment. You HAVE been stopped.

[sheshe2]

102. T'was not either group.

It was the voters that stopped him. They spoke in unison.

[still_one]

13. NO!!! This isn't about Bernie

[MFM008]

16. Everyone

Is concerned about staying alive right now
Not keeping Sanders campaign alive.

[George II]

17. Does Sanders report articles like this from commondreams or Jacobin on his FEC filings....

....as "in-kind contributions"?

[LizBeth]

19. Sanders has a responsibility to get behind Biden 100% and help create our Blue wave. Instead he

creates obstacles and takes money from people when he has already lost. It is shameful.

[Cozmo]

26. JUST IGNORE HIM THEN HE'LL GO AWAY

[IluvPitties]

29. This is over, bro.

Give it up!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

30. No, it doesn't. Bernie is no longer relevant.

[Callado119]

33. Nope...makes him more irrelevant and desperate than ever..

...time to drop out BS...

[msongs]

39. might be a better OP to keep bernie ideas and drop bernie the person nt

[NanceGreggs]

42. Yeah, it's absolutely vital ...

... that Bernie's campaign continue to spread baseless propaganda about Joe having dementia and raping women.

The fact that Bernie the Fraud still has any supporters left never ceases to amaze.

[LongtimeAZDem]

43. The Pandemic Makes the Bernie 2020 Campaign a risk to human lives

The more he detracts from Biden's campaign, the more we risk the continuation of Trump.

Let it go, already!

[SidDithers]

47. commondreams. LOL...nt

Sid

[DetlefK]

53. Bullshit.

If Sanders wanted to strengthen the progressive cause, he would reign in on HIS voters who would rather vote Trump than Biden.

[DenverJared]

54. Commondreams?

[betsuni]

55. "vital"

[MrsCoffee]

57. Better Believe It!

[BGBD]

59. no.

It is the abnormal political behavior that let this get so bad. Any normal president would have been much more prepared.

[Kahuna]

60. Or not. nt

[gibraltar72]

61. How is this helpful?

[Happy Hoosier]

63. Sanders just makes himself look more petty and delusional

With each passing day.

He knows he cannot win. Yet, he persists in pretending he can. For what !?

[SaveOurDemocracy]

64. Trash thread. 💣

[LakeArenal]

65. What a bunch of hypocrites

After Iowa, VT and Nevada you guys were calling for Joe to end it.

Then POC got a chance to vote and since then Bernie is not only losing he’s losing BIG.

Time to do the right thing and save lives in the process.

[awesomerwb1]

66. Jesus h Christ

Stop already. Bernie supporters will tell themselves anything to keep this charade going.

common dreams
jacobin
the intercept

Dear lord. Stop. He's done unless you want four more years of trump. Bernie or bust??

[GemDigger]

67. Hahaha

[Demsrule86]

72. It makes it more important that he bow out...so we can beat Trump. We know Sanders'

views ...over and over we have heard his shtick...he and his worthless Biden attacking campaign need to bow out so we can pivot to the General and fund raise...Sanders only helps Trump and all the nonsense from sites like Common Dreams are meaningless. Sander lost now get the hell out.

[Skittles]

75. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

NOPE

[katmondoo]

78. No it doesn't Uncle Joe. Dream on!

[Politicub]

79. This article is complete nonsense

It builds up a strawman of people who are calling for “normal political behavior.” Who are these people?

I see lots of people longing for a competent leader. No one believes we are living in a normal time. Biden is doing an outstanding job of showing us how he will lead as president. And it’s the kind of leadership we need.

[nolawarlock]

101. what do you expect from Tara Reade Dot Com?

They might as well change their web url to that after contributing to that face.

If they're pushing that, they certainly aren't blue no matter who.

[Peacetrain]

83. Problem is U Joe.. you need someone who can handle the crisis..and Sanders has never handled

anything. He is not the person for this..

[LongtimeAZDem]

94. "Sanders has never handled anything". This cannot be stated enough

[ibegurpard]

85. I disagree

He's been running for President not coronavirus czar. He can suspend his presidential campaign and pivot to that if he thinks he can make a difference on that front. Or he can continue on his quixotic presidential campaign and Biden will continue to pile up victories and just work around him.

[whistler162]

89. So what is the number of his Senate bill?

and AOC's House bill?

[Beringia]

98. You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!

So I'll meet 'im later on
At the place where 'e is gone
Where it's always
double drill and no canteen
He'll be squatting on the coals
Giving drink to poor damned souls
And I'll get a swig in Hell from Gunga Din
Yes, Din, Din, Din
You Lazarushian-leather Gunga Din.
Tho' I've belted you and flayed you
By the living God that made you
"You're a better man than I am,
Gunga Din!

[nolawarlock]

100. Another rag I'd never heard of pushing the obviously false narrative of Tara Reade ...

Considering the only sources who have even touched this are Intercept, this, a couple of other radical trash rags, and right-wing sources Fox News and Economist (with that teetering Newsweek taking a dip), I'd say this loses all credibility. And even Fox only tiptoed through it without the invective in the Common Dreams article about it.

So yeah, whatever they're peddling after that, I'm not interested. #DROPOUTBERNIE

[ucrdem]

103. No it makes it more cynical than ever.

Peddling false hope to gullible voters who might risk infection to go and vote for him is utterly self-centered and shows a complete indifference to the lives of the workers he professes to care about. I really hoped he wouldn't end like this.

[Gothmog]

104. How is sanders' magical voter revolution doing in the real world?

In the real world, no one in congress is going to be paying attention to sanders unless and until sanders is able to generate his magical voter revolution in the real world. I admit that I never considered sanders to be a serious candidate and never understood sanders appeal. sanders has no significant legislative accomplishments in his time in Congress in large part because sanders never bothered to attempt to get his fellow members of congress to support his programs. In the real world, it takes hard work and getting along with people to get major legislation passed. I was not surprised with sanders admitted that he does not try to get along with his fellow members of congress and that he was not good at pleasantries

Link to tweet

I agree with the NYT description of their decision not to endorse sanders in that sanders is too inflexible and that he is not able to compromise. Compromise is key to getting legislation adopted in the real world

Link to tweet

I admit that i do not understand sanders magical voter revolution that sanders claims will enable him to get his agenda adopted. I do not believe in magic and I have seen no evidence that sanders has a magical voter revolution.

Here is on one more question

Link to tweet

Merely announcing a proposal is meaningless in the real world One needs votes to get a major piece of legislation adopted and sanders has not shown that he can do this in the real world

How is sanders going to get anyone in Congress to pay attention to this proposal without his magical voter revolution?

I like the real world and in the real world magic does not work. I doubt that the real world is taking sanders all that seriously

[beachbumbob]

106. bernie who?

[NurseJackie]

108. It's over. OVER.

[Dem4Life1102]

109. Never say die Uncle Joe

I'll give you that.

[MineralMan]

110. Actually, it makes the campaign even less relevant than ever.

Look at the election results, please, in the states that have already voted. Look at the delegate counts.

Bernie Sanders is increasingly irrelevant, and will continue to be so.

[Happy Hoosier]

112. On our next episode "Things the Berners Say":

"Now that Bernie is utterly defeated, his voice is more important than ever!!"

[The Magistrate]

113. Cold But Fair, Sir

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[la-trucker]

116. Bernie Campaign's suspended vitality is legendary!!