Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimlup
(8,002 posts)don't you get it yet? Time to stop hitting Bernie. If he is really irrelevant and Biden's lead so strong why are you still worried? Says something. Since I'm a Biden supporter now I won't say the obvious.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimlup
(8,002 posts)if he is irrelevant then he is irrelevant.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)DISMISS him in favor of real ongoing issues. That's what he fears.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimlup
(8,002 posts)I mean really...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimlup
(8,002 posts)but you won't notice. At least not now.
I'm bored. Bye!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sigh... there are actually bigger issues right now or didn't you notice?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I admit - I'm wasting typing energy. I don't CARE! It doesn't matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK OK OK you win by repeated assertion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)I just listened to a doctor in Chicago. Desperate. So what the fuck ever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimlup
(8,002 posts)Joe has the nomination. Even though Bernie was my choice before Joe I now see "the light" I know we have to defeat that Orange Scum that has invaded the White House. I am on board for Joe. Stop being worried about Bernie. It is OK! Joe will win assuming reality is at all predictable (yes, I know it isn't which is why I'm still listing as undecided.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(29,772 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
no just pointing out the obvious
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(29,772 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimlup
(8,002 posts)don't you think so? Biden has it. What are you worried about?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sop
(11,121 posts)parties are the same, will convince Sanders' more impressionable followers to not vote, or vote third party.
People are concerned the longer Bernie pursues his Quixotic quest for the nomination, the less time the Democratic party will have to unite behind our eventual nominee.
People worry that Sanders will not really do everything he can to support the Democratic nominee, like all the other primary candidate have done.
People worry Bernie's likely lukewarm "support" of Biden will be seen by too many as a signal that it's not genuine, and Biden is not to be trusted.
People aren't worried Sanders might be the nominee, they're worried Bernie's and his followers' actions will damage the eventual nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimlup
(8,002 posts)you have not seen the reality yet. I know those of which you speak. They are not a threat to your world reality. I think that you are so concerned about them says a great deal about your insecurity.
I sincerely hope we can fix this before the general because tRump's evil surrogates will understand this insecurity and exploit it. Time to close ranks and stop worrying about those you can not control.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive dog
(7,219 posts)We are witnesses to it happening now and have no expectation that it will stop.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna
(27,314 posts)even after Bernie conceded at the convention, he saw to it that his supporters would make disturbance after disturbance. Even after he conceded at the convention, every time he was seen on camera he sat with a scowl, signalling his disapproval to his supporters. Then even after Hillary allowed his input on the platform committee, those he appointed ended up actively supporting Jill Stein.
You know how the saying goes, fool me once....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimlup
(8,002 posts)I'm behind Biden 95% and waiting to see what Reality dishes out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)Trump is the alternative. That is the reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Sanders in his colossal egotism conflates support for certain policy goals with desire for him to be the leader of a movement to achieve those goals.
This is nonesense.
Even leaving aside the fact that most of those goals are general among Democratic voters and enjoy broad support among Democratic office-holders and Party officials, virtually no one, not even among Sanders' supporters, thinks he can actually achieve them should he come to hold the highest office in the land.
Expressions of support for Sanders are made as a marker of political orientation. Expressing support for Sanders says 'I'm not a moderate, I'm well to the left of most people', and as with most such things, serves to identify a 'cool' group separate from the general run of 'squares'. People doing this do not even particularly want to prevail, in the sense of being in the majority. It is axiomatic that a majority can never be 'cool', the feeling of being 'hip' and part of an 'in-crowd' depends on being outnumbered by the host of the unwashed and unenlightened. The point is not to achieve any political goal, to secure any discrete reform, it is simply to be sure one is perceived as a particular, and special, kind of person.
People who have an actual interest in achieving the goals widespread among Democrats, the goals of all left and progressive and liberal persons in general, recognize readily Sanders is far too flawed as a politician, and as a personality, to make any progress towards their goals. They know Sanders has not achieved any measurable advance towards them in his long Congressional career. They know Sanders' claim to hold patents and copyrights on these goals is nonesense, because they know their own desires pre-date Sanders, and exist in their hearts and minds without the slightest reference to him or influence by him.
In short, while Sanders imagines himself to be the indispensable man, an overwhelming majority of Democratic voters are clear in their minds that Sanders is quite dispensable, and are determined to see him disposed of, as soon as possible.
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(70,995 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,770 posts)Nottadem has done enough harm to this country by sowing discord last election. Enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BadgerMom
(2,948 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bearsfootball516
(6,502 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)You also are a good decent person. Democrats are more united than I have ever seen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna
(27,314 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(29,772 posts)Maybe soon to be secretary of.....?
Something good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)She deserves a place at the table when policy, and the strategy and tactics to see policies through to enactment, are discussed and set.
"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MyOwnPeace
(17,273 posts)I believe we should demand she is given a place at the table. As a candidate she has shown she has the knowledge and skills to work to BETTER our country. Her efforts to establish the Consumer Affairs Dept. showed that she has the interests of the PEOPLE in mind, not the "desires" of Wall Street.
We would be so foolish not to make the best use of this marvelous leader.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)It is clear that Biden considers her quite highly and will seek her expertise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Green Line
(1,127 posts)But we have a Republican Governor, there would be a special election in 160 days, even so, why take that chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MyOwnPeace
(17,273 posts)Several of our "very qualified" candidates would have been vacating an important position just to take another very important position.
Hopefully there will be some good, smart planning regarding the power structure of the Congress (and, of course, results from the November election will play a big part in that) and where the best talent can be used most effectively.
"Senator Warren" could still serve as Senator - and yet provide valuable insight and direction in many matters and ways.
But first, we must GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,454 posts)Her work on COVID 3 bill was stellar.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NNadir
(34,597 posts)...a very high opinion of Senator Warren, even as I disagree with her on one of the most important issues to me, energy and the environment.
She was, during the open campaign, my second, and for even a short while, my first, choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(70,995 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,684 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,154 posts)went exponentially up when she refused to endorse Saint Bernard post drop-out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pillow talk
(265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)"From Bernies perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they dont want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)One suspects a number of these fellas have 'mommy issues'....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,684 posts)and that she was underneath the chassis staring at the exhaust system after she withdrew and did not immediately and fulsomely endorse the glorious leader of the class struggle, but now it appears they are backing over her repeatedly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)They don't weigh much.
There is no real force behind the thing, it is just a species of troll, with no more significance than the usual hate that is commonly directed at any woman noticed on the internet. I do not mean to downplay the usual run, it can be fearsome and disgusting and the platforms need to do something about it. But by now it does not seem to be a marker for any real political force.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,684 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)I was thinking of some sort of blow-up toy done with helium, but could not get the image to work quickly....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,454 posts)Even before that, she had become "that woman" to some Bros.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)of the nastier types on twitter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)I regret not having noticed your comment here before.
Be well, and stay safe!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)I noticed you. I'm glad you are here and really glad to read your posts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jorgevlorgan
(10,612 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(49,696 posts)from an amazing woman.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)Don't run all the way down to the 1-yard line and then step outta bounds.
Take one extra step and punch it in for the score.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,889 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)That would seem like an appropriate time to do it...especially since there is such a long dead zone after that.
Even with the original schedule after WI there was nothing scheduled for another 3 weeks after that which always struck me as a weird lull to have. This virus has made things even worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blue-wave
(4,488 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DarthDem
(5,359 posts)She's a class act. And she's right.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,287 posts)As a Warren supporter who has become an enthusiastic Biden supporter, it means a lot to hear what Warren thinks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(11,476 posts)This is how we win, unifying behind the Democratic Party's presumptive nominee Joe Biden.
Thank you, Senator Warren. You've always been a class act and a loyal Dem.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(34,584 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Senator Warren is a class act and are genuine Hard working patriot. Her kind words for VP Biden reflect well on both of these leaders. Id love to see her as Senate Leader working with a President Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,815 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,440 posts)adversary, trump
Bravo Senator Warren
Unlike some, she realizes what the stakes are
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pillow talk
(265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)We all need to come together, right now (with social distancing, of course).
I love Elizabeth. May she do all she wants in this life. She has a great opportunity to help us all, in the senate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,493 posts)Bernie isn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
turbinetree
(25,250 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(43,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,853 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ismnotwasm
(42,443 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DenverJared
(457 posts)Thank you Sen. Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,443 posts)of Obama/Biden. SMH.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(52,202 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nsd
(2,480 posts)Until she does that, I for one have no interest in her opinions.
Klobuchar endorsed, Buttigieg endorsed, Booker endorsed, Harris endorsed, Gillibrand endorsed, Bloomberg endorsed.
What is she waiting for?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dustyscamp
(2,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
onetexan
(13,889 posts)given their close relationship and from what we've seen so far Obama's invisible hand is at work. I don't doubt Joe often consults with Obama and that having 2 terms of a successful presidency Joe is well prepared for the mess this rogue administration will leave him. It will be a tough road but we'll be on the road to normalcy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden