3/27 5am Bernie Sanders On His Campaign: 'It's Going To Be A Very Steep Road'

[Sunlei]

March 27, 2020·5:00 AM ET
Biden currently holds a more than 300 delegate lead in the race for the Democratic nomination. During an online press conference Wednesday, Biden was asked about whether there should be more Democratic primary debates and answered, "I think we've had enough debates. I think we should get on with this."

Sanders conceded that he substantially lagged Biden in the race, saying "it's going to be a very steep road," but said there was value to holding more debates.

Sanders told King he's convinced the Senate's emergency relief package will be followed with another "massive" bill within the next month. Sanders said the pandemic has caused Americans to rethink the nature of the role that government can play in their lives.

"I think there is growing sentiment in this country that people now understand that it is incomprehensible that we remain the only major country on earth not to guarantee health care to all, that we have an economy which leaves half of our people...living paycheck to paycheck," Sanders said.


"I think given the nature of the healthcare crisis and the economic crisis, Congress will be back once again (within the next month) for a major, major stimulus package," Sanders said.


edit, I forgot the link npr https://www.npr.org/2020/03/27/822171139/bernie-sanders-on-his-campaign-it-s-going-to-be-a-very-steep-road

[The Magistrate]

1. More Like A Cliff Face, Ma'am

The sort of thing Wiley Coyote runs into full tilt when it is painted to look like a tunnel....





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Sunlei]

13. I thought the info about another bill in a month was news worthy

Just to let uninsured (unemployed) know, healthcare.gov again has open enrollment for about 15 states & the rest of the states should be on board soon. There are several plans where the insured wouldn't have to pay any premiums. Hopefully this pandemic hits the curve soon & people reading this stay healthy. If not though, it's best to have a Doctor/insurance in place to call for help.

Obama Foundation has released several statements about the pandemic. I think Obama had a lot to do with re-opening insurance enrollment. It was mentioned two days ago Obama is in contact with the campaigns. He's not ready to endorse or called to end the primary 'debate' and neither am I.

These are extraordinary times, even Joe Biden mentioned about his VP choice- He wants a VP 'ready to be President'. That statement gave me chills- our contenders know(god forbid!) they could catch corona virus and die.

We're all in that dark tunnel together, let us hope by June/July? everyone makes it out the other side.

[The Magistrate]

20. I Expect There Will Be Another Relief Bill, Ma'am

It takes no great wizardry to predict that. This crisis is going to persist, and the necessary public health measures will continue to depress economic activity. Even wretches like McConnell recognize in such circumstances the people must be brought off, lest civil disorder complicate matters further. The only wrangle will be about the level at which these bounties for quiescence will be set, not whether they will be paid.

I am quite willing to call the Presidential primary over and done. Viewed dispassionately, Sanders is in the position of a baseball team with a season won/lost record of .400, ten games out of first, with the team on top enjoying a season won/loss record of .600. With eleven games to go, it will be clear to anyone the pennant is going to the latter team, not the former, and that by the end of the season the distance between them will have expanded to a dozen games.

Viewed with regard to its political effect, Sanders' continuing is the act of a splinterist wrecker, nothing more. It can bring no benefit whatsoever, and will do real harm. Again, the only questions are how much harm will it do, and will the harm done be sufficient to maintain Trump in office. It cannot even be assumed 'Bernie' does not intend this worst possible outcome, or would be too discomfited by it. 'Bernie' is not really running for the Party's nomination for President, 'Bernie' is running to overthrow the 'Democratic Establishment', and may well consider in his heart of hearts that balking success in ousting Trump just might contrive that. A silver lining for his life-long radical aspirations, in a damned dark cloud for the people and our country.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[redstatebluegirl]

32. This!

[The Magistrate]

50. Thank You, Ma'am

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[redstatebluegirl]

53. Welcome back Magistrate we have missed you!

[Aquaria]

64. Oh please

Everyone expects another one.

So he's no Nostradamus, and is, if anything, late to the show.

Same old boring grandpa glomming onto yesterday's news.

[Hortensis]

16. :) Try, try, try, try. If only he'd tried a tiny fraction as much

in congress...VT would have retired him long ago.

[The Magistrate]

21. Thank You, Ma'am

I appreciate the illustration.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Hortensis]

25. :) Proportional delegate allocation, making it impossible

for him to catch up (even if Repub-Russia tsunami'd the nation with poison Kool-Aid like never before) is the evil DNC's "hidden hand" rigging the election against him.

The paranoid poison his own campaign's been hosing the nation with is not always completely wrong, although it is always despicably dishonest and unprincipled. Strengthening our democratic process to accurately reflect the will of Democratic voters, instead of winner-take-all, made it much harder for wily coyotes to smash and take. And that was entirely on purpose.

[The Magistrate]

26. Exactly, Ma'am

I am quite willing to call the Presidential primary over and done. Viewed dispassionately, Sanders is in the position of a baseball team with a season won/lost record of .400, ten games out of first, with the team on top enjoying a season won/loss record of .600. With eleven games to go, it will be clear to anyone the pennant is going to the latter team, not the former, and that by the end of the season the distance between them will have expanded to a dozen games.

Viewed with regard to its political effect, Sanders' continuing is the act of a splinterist wrecker, nothing more. It can bring no benefit whatsoever, and will do real harm. Again, the only questions are how much harm will it do, and will the harm done be sufficient to maintain Trump in office. It cannot even be assumed 'Bernie' does not intend this worst possible outcome, or would be too discomfited by it. 'Bernie' is not really running for the Party's nomination for President, 'Bernie' is running to overthrow the 'Democratic Establishment', and may well consider in his heart of hearts that balking success in ousting Trump just might contrive that. A silver lining for his life-long radical aspirations, in a damned dark cloud for the people and our country.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[Hortensis]

31. He's certainly not trying to win spreading poison about Biden+rape.

That's aversion therapy to decent people, and most Democrats are decent people.

Sanders is providing his never-dies with themes to keep them rallied around him and attack with, just as his fellow populist leader is doing to also keep his from looking for new blood.

[empedocles]

28. Ever wish he would fall off that 'Cliff Face'

[brush]

51. The phrase "one trick pony" comes to mind.

[Zoonart]

2. Full disclosure...

in 2016 I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary. I fully supported Hillary Clinton and wish to God the she were President right fudging now.

I am off the Bernie bus for several years. The fact that his surrogates are currently pushing and old Russian bot rape accusation of Joe Biden without any intervention by the candidate has torn it. ANY respect I have ever had for this man is totally gone.

I don't want to hear about his "steep path". Stay home Bernie. Why would you endanger more Americans by forcing states to continue the primary voting during a crippling pandemic when you have NO CHANCE of winning the nomination?

You are as selfish and narcissistic as Rump. Where is your decency? YOU.NEED.TO. DROP.OUT.TODAY.

[Cha]

12. Mahalo, Zoonart.. Well said!

[Zoonart]

14. Mahalo.

Be safe Cha. I enjoy your posts.

[Cha]

61. You Be Safe, Too!

& Thank You!

[Sunlei]

15. just as a thought, what if Biden picked Clinton for VP? Biden just said he wants someone ready

Biden just said he wants someone ready to be President. I think Hillary is ready to be president.

[Zoonart]

17. Would be totally cool with that.

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. Actually, the Democratic electorate has already spoken about who they think is ready to be...

President, and it ain't Bernie Sanders. And as for who they trust to handle a major crisis, Joe Biden swamps BS in that category as well. So the only reason to keep this going is money, ego, and hoping something bad happens to Joe Biden? Really? And even if something happens to Biden, do you think BS wins the nomination by default?

[Sunlei]

24. 1,991 delegates needed to win the nomination. Let all the states/voters have their vote.

Even if Joe Biden and Obama were still President/VP right now, (except for bail outs to stock market/corporations) I don't see much difference in the current bills that mandate direct $$ help to low income/uninsured/unemployed Americans. If this pandemic persists through June/July as Sanders mentioned 'Americans will need another huge help bill within 30 days.

Joe Bidens right to recently say he want a VP 'ready to be president'. He may be having second thoughts about limiting his VP choice to one gender and trying hard to adapt his campaign to the current crisis.

[Aquaria]

65. Yawn

BSers still acting like they're special little snowflakes who have never had their candidate lose the nomination months before the convention, when it's happened multiple times--this year alone! Do you think supporters of Warren, Buttigieg and all the others aren't upset about having their candidates backing out so early? The difference between them and BSers is that they're mature adults with dignity, while BSers would rather lie about "losing their vote" were BS to do the decent thing and concede. What, did the Warren and etc. voters after Super Tuesday lose their votes? Of course not. They simply had to make another choice--like millions have done before them for decades now.

You're not special, BSers. You're not owed anything. You'll still have your vote if you're a registered voter in one of the upcoming primary states. Go down and see. You'll be able to go to a polling place and cast a ballot. It's just that if you vote for your self-serving fraud, he still won't become the nominee. You can cry about that all you want, lie and pout and stamp your feet all you want, but that will not change/

BS has lost, Democratic voters have told him they're just not into him, so he either needs to concede and get behind Biden 100%, or go away, once and for all.

[marble falls]

30. How in the hell did you get into my head??? What Bernie doesn't realize is 90% were/are ...

aware the US short comings in the economy and worker's rights before we heard from him. I don't think there's anyone left who doesn't know that for Bernie to enlighten.

[Zoonart]

35. That's a secret.

LOL.

[marble falls]

39. Spooky stuff, bro - that was my experience!

[redstatebluegirl]

33. Very well said!

[Zoonart]

37. TQ

[showblue22]

3. He's just looking for an excuse to stay in.

Americans soundly rejected him and the will continue to do so.

[Happy Hoosier]

4. So he thinks that COVID-19 will change voters' minds...

I’ll point out, again, that Joe Biden could lose every remaining contest by 10 points and STILL clinch the nomination.

More Bernie-Math.

[Hav]

5. Another hail mary

This time it will be different and the people will realize who their savior is...

I think BS is giving his supporters false hope and there'll come a point when it becomes very questionable that he's selling something that just isn't there. It's hard to believe that he thinks he can win the remaining primaries with almost 2:1 margins. Everything else won't do it. He won't win NY and he'll get demolished in PA. Another two big prizes gone.
I suppose we'll have to wait what the post-crisis polls show but before corona, it showed spanking after spanking for BS. It's like he enjoys the punishment the voters dish out.

[redstatebluegirl]

34. He is selling snake oil right now.

He is insisting on destroying the Democratic party.

[R B Garr]

6. I really resent him holding us hostage.

He needs to drop out so Obama can come forward, which surely would drive Trump even madder. Obama is forced to hold his powder until Bernie exits because everyone has to pussyfoot around Bernie.

[The Magistrate]

10. No Need To Hold To Precedent Here, Ma'am

Party leaders should proceed as if 'Bernie' already had conceded, and begin public endorsements and raising and disbursing of funds. It might be necessary to change some Party rules to do this, but those are internal matters that could be changed at will. There really is no need to maintain Sanders' pretensions in countenance. He is not really a candidate for the Party's nomination, Mr. Biden has won the line, and is the only Democrat remaining of the field.





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[R B Garr]

45. I would love to see this. Sanders is not a candidate and is obviously clinging to the stage

from his own personal denial. I hope that the big stars like Obama do come out and do what you suggest -- ignore Sanders. It's just that Sanders' has insinuated he is the real star, when it actually is Obama who is probably reluctant because he doesn't want to alienate anyone.

Your comment says it all perfectly: "no need to maintain Sanders' pretensions in countenance." So well said...

[redstatebluegirl]

36. WE need to ignore him and his supporters right now.

They won't vote for Biden anyway, no need to pander to them. If we ignore them they are not able to take all the air out of the room. What he is hoping for is that turnout will be low in the primaries that are coming and he might actually win one.

[R B Garr]

46. Agreed. I can't even tolerate Sanders' desperation anymore to make

everything about him. It's at 5-stage clinging at this point.

[Turin_C3PO]

48. I wish Obama would come out for Biden anyway.

I know he probably won’t, and I respect his decision. But we need to get going onto the general election.

[still_one]

7. Not really, and according to the latest polls in Penn. and Wisconsin, Biden verses trump is within

the MOE, while Sanders loses to trump outside the MOE

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

In fact, in those polls Biden is doing significantly better against trump than Sanders

Also, the favorability ratings of trump are NOT as good as the media was pushing a few days ago

[Aquaria]

66. Polls this far out regarding the general election

Are effectively useless. They're fun, but they mean nothing. Not only can a great deal change between now and then, but people aren't thinking about who to vote for seriously right now. They will later.

As it is, I don't see Biden losing PA in November. When push comes to shove, PA will vote for the guy who's one of them, who was born and mostly raised there, the guy who "speaks their language" and understands them, and not for that ugly, fat orange filth from New York City who doesn't have a clue about PA. He probably doesn't even know how to spot it on a map.

Watch for how much he creams BS in the primary. The bigger the win, the more likely he'll win the state in November.

[still_one]

68. I agree

[MarianJack]

8. In other news,...

...Custer says it will be a steep road to win at Little Big Horn.

It's time for Sanders to take his fistful of $27 checks and to go the hell HOME!

RESIST

[Sloumeau]

9. More like climbing Everest without rope, clothing, or oxygen tanks. :) nt

[BidenBacker]

11. "Very Steep Road"???

Kinda like this?

[George II]

19. Does he say WHAT this so-called "value" is to holding more debates? There have been a dozen....

....or more where he's said almost exactly the same thing over and over again.

Even in that interview he lapses into his stump speech about "healthcare for all and people living paycheck to paycheck". How many times do we have to hear that?

Did the interviewer ask him what primaries he might possibly win going forward? He's not even close to winning a single one, much less winning by enough to get the nomination.

[BidenBacker]

23. Don't forget my favorite Bernie line

"I am sick and tired of millionaires and billionaires...". Man, if you had a drinking game party during a debate you'd be plastered by the end of it.

I think Sanders keeps pushing to have endless debates ad nauseam because he keeps hoping that one of these days Joe will come out in a big diaper, pee all over the stage floor and start drooling all over his bib.

I have to admit, if Biden did that I might have to change my vote.

[Hortensis]

22. Sanders has spent his entire DC career combining corruption of

his own beliefs by voting as a +1 to our Democratic legislators with his passion for complaining, and that always got him reelected. Now he's complaining to be president and doesn't understand why it isn't working.

[empedocles]

27. BS has never stopped complaining, or annoying an awful lof ot people, - which

is why his Presidential campaigns are so . . .

[DarthDem]

29. Drop. Out. Now.

Senator Sanders: it's over. You've lost. Do what's best for the country that you love and suspend your campaign. The sooner you do that, the sooner that Mr. Biden will listen to you and your supporters - those that are persuadable at least - and give you a voice in shaping his campaign for the general election.

[BidenBacker]

38. Are there any Biden supporters here

who if both men were roughly tied in delegates and Bernie was projected to win around half the states going forward would still be calling for BS to drop out?

I sure as hell wouldn't be.

And are there any Biden folks who if the shoe was on the other foot and Joe was trailing BS by 100s of delegates and not predicted to win a single future primary would not be saying that Joe should drop out so we could start coalescing and begin focusing on beating Trump?

I sure as hell would be.

I wouldn't like it at all but I'd still be trying to pull together so we could win in November. And even though I would probably be convinced that Bernie was gonna get his ass kicked I'd still dutifully check his name on my ballot.

Is that really so effing hard?

[The Magistrate]

41. Exactly, Sir

I would not like it, but I would do my duty.





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[NCProgressive]

43. If the situation were reversed

I'd be calling for Biden to drop out .. for the good of the party and the country.

[Aquaria]

67. What if games are intellectual masturbation

It does no good to waste time speculating about what if scenarios about Biden and the guy who won't concede being roughly tied, because they don't change anything.

They can't, because the two aren't roughly tied, and they won't be. Not now. Not ever. The road ahead is nothing but epic fail for BS. The math isn't there, and someone who cared about the party more than his ego would face up to that and step aside so that the party could unite behind the choice of the voters.

BS and his BSers had their chance to make their case. They lost. They're the ones who need to deal with that, rather than pitching whiny-ass hissy fits about it.

And knock off the lie about their vote. I don't see any of the people making this ridiculous argument explaining why we need to make an exception for BS and his whiny ass titty baby supporters, but not for the supporters of Warren, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and all the others who had to concede, way back when, but before their supporters had a chance to vote in the primaries.

If they could pull up their big kid pants and get their asses to the polls to vote anyway, then BSers can do the same damned thing.

[honest.abe]

40. Steep?? More like this..

[NCProgressive]

42. The road ahead ....

[NurseJackie]

44. The only "value" in holding more debates is to benefit Bernie.

but said there was value to holding more debates.

The only "value" in holding more debates is to benefit Bernie. Joe shouldn't (and probably won't) agree to waste time debating someone who's already lost the race.

This thing is over, and Bernie is still pretending that he has a chance... that he can serve up a miracle come-from-behind victory. But it ain't gonna happen. He knows it. I know it. You know it. We ALL know that Bernie is not going to be our party's nominee.

He's had PLENTY of time to come to terms with it. He's had PLENTY of time to come up with a nice and face-saving way to withdraw from the race and endorse Joe Biden.

The window of opportunity for him to do this gracefully and to preserve any sense of honor and integrity that may be remaining... well... that window is closing. Time is short.

If he wants to make a difference, then the first thing he needs to do is withdraw and get on the Biden Bandwagon to help defeat Trump and the GOP. Anything short of that will only serve to divide and weaken the Democratic party. Not endorsing Biden only creates resentment and distrust.

What good purpose does that serve? It's does nothing except create an atmosphere of negativity. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

[Turin_C3PO]

49. Your last paragraph nails it.

[Cha]

62. There's No "value". BS Lost ahd his surrogates

are smear sleazing Joe Biden.

Biden has Important Real issues to deal with.

[MineralMan]

47. There is no gear low enough to go up that grade, Bernie.

Not even your lowest compound gear ratio will suffice. Please be sure to turn your wheels to the curb before exiting your vehicle.

[BidenBacker]

55. Yeah, but don't forget

that Bernie always has Nina gear. And if that don't work the ultimate Orfalea gear...guaranteed to be able to pull 50 tons of horse manure and steaming bullshit up an 89-degree incline.

[NurseJackie]

52. Bernie's road to VICTORY... looks a little shaky. It's a dangerous game he's playing.

[BidenBacker]

54. Every time I see that video

it now bums me out a little ever since I heard that the driver of the car left his little pooch in it when they took off. If it had been me pretty sure I woulda ended up in the water before leaving any of my pets behind.

[NurseJackie]

57. I did not know that... so I did some more research and found this:

I did not know that... so I did some more research and found this:

https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/10/the-only-victim-of-the-tacoma-narrows-bridge-collapse-was-a-three-legged-dog/

[BidenBacker]

60. Yeah, that's it

I first heard about it when I was watching one of the "Engineering Disasters" episodes on cable TV many years ago.

I was always thankful that nothing I ever worked on ended up making it on that show! My first job was on the Space Shuttle but thank God it was the O-rings on the Challenger that failed which I had nothing to do with. Then when the Columbia came apart during reentry I was deathly afraid that it WAS my part that time but when I read the accident report it turned out that what I had worked on was actually firing like crazy to keep the vehicle pointed in the right direction as the wing melted and kept the crew alive as long as it could until it reached its limit and that was that.

Sent a real chill up my spine reading that report, boy.

[BlueCheese]

56. In 2016 I had the nagging feeling...

... that some in the Sanders camp were hoping that Hillary Clinton would be forced to drop out because of the FBI/email thing.

This time, I can't shake the feeling they're hoping for something like that again-- and the events of the last few days hint at what they're trying to do.

[BidenBacker]

58. Bernie may be hoping

that Putin releases some bogus Burisma documents that his IRA boys will claim they obtained after they hacked into the company's email system.

But ol' Vlad probably doesn't want to blow his wad on a losing cause and will keep his powder dry until later this year when his REAL protege is going up against Joe.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

59. Hope he has his climbing gear

[Demsrule86]

63. Here is what I think about the steep climb...the impossible dream.

I can't deal with Sanders and honestly I will block those with his picture on their posts because he has lost and everyday he stays in makes it more likely Trump will be reelected...our nominee is being attacked right and left always a dangerous thing...see you when the last primaries occur or after Sanders concedes whichever comes first. Hope it it is not to late to beat Trump...which is the only reason we have a primary ...nominate our candidate. Take care.