I proudly stood with @PennaNurses and @District1199C to fight the closure of Hahnemann.

[Uncle Joe]

Link to tweet

[George II]

1. Wasn't that like six or seven months ago?

[Uncle Joe]

2. Yeah, so?

[George II]

4. What has he "proudly" done in the last few weeks? Today is his first day in the Senate in 2 months..

...and back in January when he was last there he was groaning about "why do I have to be here?". Reminder, he did that months before anyone even knew about this virus.

He's a United States Senator from Vermont, not the Mayor of Philadelphia.

[Uncle Joe]

5. Who are you kidding George? It makes absolutely no difference

what Bernie does or says, you will find a way to crap on it.

[George II]

9. If he does the right thing tonight or tomorrow, I'll laud him for it.

The thing is people have built him up much bigger than he ever was. We're finding that out more and more each week. I don't know how many times I've asked here, "what has he accomplished?", the only answers I get are vague "he changed the narrative", or "he transformed" this, that, or the other.

I'll try one more time - what has he accomplished? Maybe if someone can actually articulate that he'd get more credit around here.

[LanternWaste]

14. The corollary to that is just as true.

Regardless of how old, out of date, dated or dusty, you'll pretend relevance... unless of course, we begin quoting Sanders' own words, in which case it magically becomes an attack on him.

"Who are you kidding" indeed.

[NurseJackie]

21. Bazinga!

[sheshe2]

24. +++

[NCProgressive]

22. I am proud to say that I made the success of the Hoover dam possible.

I stopped my car and looked at it while traveling from Phoenix to Las Vegas. I proudly stood with all the people who built it and who maintain it daily.

[BeckyDem]

3. Thank you, Bernie.

K&R

[The Magistrate]

6. No One Minds Another Body On A Picket Line, Sir

No reason to suppose hs is worth more than that of anyone else there, however. Nor does this make him an effective political leader, able to wrangle needed legislation through a Congress he has damned few friends in.

[Uncle Joe]

7. It is what it is sir, a matter of record

the question of our life time being, is the thing an estrangement between Bernie and establishment politics or establishment politics and the average American?

In either case political leadership is at play, it's just a question of who are the "leaders?"

[The Magistrate]

11. If You want To Know What It Is, Sir

This would be the summary.

Sanders considers the Democratic Party as much the Establishment as he does the Republican Party. He has always considered them interchangeable opponents of revolutionary action. He wishes not to ally with or assist the Democratic Party, rather he imagines he can take it over, make it over into his own image, and having thus breached the castle wall, use his new revolutionary party as the tool of destruction for the remaining institutions of the Establishment. A course of action, on reflection, rather like that of a virus towards a living cell.

Had Sanders not made this second sally, he could have maintained that his views had considerable support among 'working class white men', as demonstrated by their votes in 2016. By going once too often to the well, Sanders has shown that in fact, his voting strength in 2016 among 'working class white men' owed not to support for his policies, and those men's openness if properly inspired to revolution change in a left direction, but rather to a long rightist reactionary campaign of hatred for Mrs. Clinton which he chanced along to be a beneficiary of, and of retrograde attitudes towards 'uppity women' in that demographic which this campaign fed on. Sanders might have had a legacy as a real contender for radical views. It would not have been an honest one, but it would have looked swell on video and in print.

[Uncle Joe]

15. What is a party if not its' beliefs or values and as history has shown

these are if not interchangeable, highly mutable.

Even states which Biden won, Medicare for All consistently carried a majority in the exit polls.

Bernie is on the right side of the issues.

[The Magistrate]

20. Meaningless, Sir

Sanders purpose is as described. The course of action he has adopted has tended, throughout modern history, to bring political benefit to the reactionary right. His intentions, as he believes them to be, must be weighed against the actual effects his actions achieve. When a person persists in a behavior which has effects contrary to his stated intentions, at some point people must conclude the effect achieved is the actual intention. A junkie does not acquire heroin to feel good, a junkie acquires heroin to inflict pain and squalor on himself, by the insertion of the needle, and the condition of life he embraces.

"Watch the hands, not the mouth."

[George II]

13. Obviously "established politics" (whatever that is) isn't estranged from the American people....

...the candidate being identified as the "established politician" (whatever that is) is overwhelmingly winning the primaries and will be our nominee in July.

Will you support Biden when he's the nominee?

[ucrdem]

8. Hanhemann filed for bankruptcy on June 30, 2019, and closed its doors on Sept. 6.

How is tweeting about it now going to change that?



https://www.hahnemannhospital.com/SitePages/Closure%20FAQs%20for%20the%20Community.aspx

[Uncle Joe]

10. Did you not read the tweet?

[ucrdem]

12. Yes, it says he's fighting the closure.

How? It closed six months ago.

[Uncle Joe]

16. It actually says "re-open" in the OP. n/t

[ucrdem]

18. Fine, but it's a little late for that.

But if he surprises us with legislation to make it happen I'll K'n'R your thread!

[The Magistrate]

17. Apparently, Sir, It Was Closed Anyway

It may be reopened now in the current crisis as a relief facility. I am not familiar with the local considerations which led to its closure. Two small things seem worth noting, however. First, Sanders did not succeed in preventing the closure, though he made a grand gesture. Second, failure may be touted as readily as success for radical credentials. Victory is optional, it is the struggle that counts.

"Remember the war against Franco, that's the kind where each of us belongs. Though he may have won all the battles, we had all the good songs!"

[ucrdem]

19. Ah, so he marched with Hahnemann.

Thanks, I'm getting the picture.

[violasays]

25. I live in Philadelphia

Hahneman has been sort of a pink elephant for awhile, so I heard. It was my mother's hospital of choice and she said that when it merged with Drexel University in the 90s, it went way downhill. I'd only been there once, to have an emergency eye infection treated, and it was not a pleasant experience. It was also in somewhat of a precarious location, being on North Broad Street, where gentrification has sort of taken hold but there's not really anything there except the school of the arts and the old Philadelphia Inquirer building. Jefferson and Temple University Hospitals are much better. Penn is not that great but gets by on reputation.

A lot of doctors did get displaced, and I believe Hahnemann had a large number of doctors from overseas, so it is nice that Senator Sanders stood with them to help them not lose their jobs. Sadly, it didn't work.

[The Magistrate]

26. Thank You, Ma'am

The information is appreciated. It is a shame when a facility goes to waste. As the present crisis shows, medical facilities ought to be maintained in reserve. That is something it is difficult to get business types to even comprehend nowadays, let alone to actually do. Some shareholder will whimper about losing a quarter percent on return compared to what might have been had by some other employment of the capital.

[BumRushDaShow]

28. When they closed it, they decommissioned it

so it is pretty much stripped inside and the city has been weighing the cost/benefit of bringing it back into operation - although they have been considering maybe using it for triage.

It is in a central location downtown (near 2 interstates - I-676 & I-95) plus it has a heliport on the roof (was a Level I Trauma Center at one time).

[renate]

23. what's the point of crapping all over Bernie (not you, OP)? It's not a good look

I'm not personally a fan of his, but good grief. We would have been absolutely offended (and rightly so) if Bernie had become the presumptive nominee and his people were insulting us and making fun of us. It's rude as hell, and in a practical sense it's also incredibly unhelpful--we need everybody in November if our country is going to survive. But the reason we shouldn't do is is that it's unnecessarily mean.

I'm sorry, Bernie people. This is a tough time for you and DU should be a place you feel at home in.

[NBachers]

27. I support Bernie for walking with the unions, and advocating for the re-opening of this hospital.