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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

andym

(5,676 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:19 PM Mar 2020

We know Joe's VP will be a women, but how to balance the ticket? On what principle?

The ticket is typically balanced on geography. However, in reality the ticket should always be balanced on helping to gain voter blocks that the candidate doesn't attract as well.

So which voting blocks did Biden have a weakness with during the primary?
African Americans? NO. Women? NO Latinos (Somewhat), Younger voters (less than 45) (Yes).

Basically those younger than 45 according to the well documented "age gap" in the primary. Joe's running mate should be someone who can increase turnout and enthusiasm among younger voters--maybe not the teens to 20'a crowd, but those 30-45 who vote more reliably than the 18-29 demographic.

In these troubled times, there is another key qualification, Joe has to pick someone who is viewed as experienced and competent enough to take charge in an emergency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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We know Joe's VP will be a women, but how to balance the ticket? On what principle? (Original Post) andym Mar 2020 OP
Totally been thinking along these lines. cilla4progress Mar 2020 #1
It will a much younger woman of color evertonfc Mar 2020 #2
I agree with that. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #6
Definitely keep geography in place question everything Mar 2020 #3
Stacey Abrams would be good. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #7
So, do you have anyone in mind that fits that criteria? FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #4
A woman with a STEM background... Basic LA Mar 2020 #5
I did a poll relevant to this at... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #8
I didn't specifically mention the left andym Mar 2020 #9
Biden wants an assistant president and friend who will Hortensis Mar 2020 #10
Ideology, geography, demographics Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #11
Want vs need pinkstarburst Mar 2020 #12
 

cilla4progress

(25,868 posts)
1. Totally been thinking along these lines.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:21 PM
Mar 2020

Does Harris fit the bill? Is she seen as progressive enough? I don't know if Bernie supporters are enthused about her?

I think the ticket needs youth, competence, and racial / gender diversity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
2. It will a much younger woman of color
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:27 PM
Mar 2020

POC saved his ass. Not picking one would be a real slap in the face

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(48,762 posts)
3. Definitely keep geography in place
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:30 PM
Mar 2020

Biden is an East Coaster so Harris is out. We need someone from the middle.

Someone who will be in a lockstep with his ideas. So, again, no Harris, no Warren. Someone who, if called, will be able to immediately continue with Biden's ideas and will not try to sneak own agenda.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(15,815 posts)
7. Stacey Abrams would be good.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:03 PM
Mar 2020

I think Harris is still an option. African-Americans saved our asses from disaster so we should definitely pick an African-American woman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FailureToCommunicate

(14,314 posts)
4. So, do you have anyone in mind that fits that criteria?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:44 PM
Mar 2020

I was initially for Kamala Harris in the Primary, so I'd be happy with her. But you don't think Biden needs help with African Americans. I think she appeals to a MUCH broader group then just that voting group, would excite the younger voters (and maybe help them get out and vote?) and would clearly be ready to become President, if the time arose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
5. A woman with a STEM background...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:57 PM
Mar 2020

...preferably in Medicine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

andym

(5,676 posts)
9. I didn't specifically mention the left
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:44 PM
Mar 2020

but the idea of balancing with a progressive advocate is another good point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Biden wants an assistant president and friend who will
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:15 PM
Mar 2020

be to him what he was to Obama, able to take on a full portfolio and run with it.

The conservative Republican party still has a very hierarchical structure and ideology, rule from the top, and their VPs are still expected to attend funerals and helicopter to golf dates. Thus choosing people like little Danny Quayle who checked the boxes for advantageous home state, white skin color and male gender makes sense.

But our egalitarian Democratic Party has advanced with the times. Our are chosen for their desire and ability to do important work, not go into semi-retirement or posture at appearances in Nancy Reagan-style devotion.

And, of course, being a spare who is genuinely capable of being a good president has always been important, but with the oldest potential president in history that ability has a spotlight on it. But that means the spare should be someone who would fulfill what the electorate voted for. Used to be the VP could even be from the other party to "balance" and get support of some faction.

For all these reasons I like letting our presidential candidates choose their workmates and potential replacements, and decide on what balance will work overall.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
11. Ideology, geography, demographics
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:40 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pinkstarburst

(1,540 posts)
12. Want vs need
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 03:31 PM
Mar 2020

#1--the VP must be ready to president on day one.

#2--If we're looking in terms of shoring up Joe's weaknesses with voters, he has a problem with voters under 45. But he can't just pick any candidate who "appeals to people under 45." Voters under 45 for the most part tend to be highly progressive. He needs a choice like Warren, who is the leading female progressive voice in the party and a national figure to bring those votes in. If he wants young, progressive voters to turn out in November, he has to give them a reason.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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