Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumTime for Bernie Sanders to drop out.
The people have spoken and we have work to do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,769 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)if he does drop out.
Bern: what the hell are you doing?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dhol82
(9,431 posts)He seems to prefer being a spoiler to admitting that the American people dont want him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kingofalldems
(39,196 posts)He must know he would be swamped in the GE.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... is no match for the sheer number of voters who dislike him and who prefer Biden (and winning) instead.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zonkers
(5,865 posts)and the political landscape. He knows his quixotic quest for the presidency is over. He's a realist. Bernie has fought for so many who have had no voice and will continue to do so. He is a man of conviction and guts who has ignited imaginations. And all you and so many others can do is rabidly belittle him and impune his integrity. It's pathetic and disgusting and a lot of other things I wont say. because I don't want my post removed by jury. The vindictivness displayed towards him is counter productive and bad mojo.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)He needs to do the honorable thing now. It's over. Why is he pretending like he has a chance? This is getting embarrassing to watch.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zonkers
(5,865 posts)perfectly reasonable to think he would have done a hell of a lot better in Chicago. And while it didn't happen, it was a possibility. And don't you think that he thought he owed it to the millions that contributed to his campaign to at least see if it did. Especially in a freaky election cycle in which Biden came from behind after being counted out.
Bernie is one of a kind and a good dude. He will come into the fold as he said he would. DUers need not worry -- the socialist boogy man will join the fold as he said he would. He is so unappreciated and savagely derided as are many who are ahead of. their time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(17,405 posts)He just ignores them. Doesn't matter how much time you give him. He just ignores reality and keeps dividing and damaging.
We don't need more time. We know.
If he wants us to believe otherwise, he has one way to do it. He won't use it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blue cat
(2,438 posts)When he knows its over.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
peequod
(189 posts)Tell Joe Biden if he's worried about raising cash from Dem donors to ring up ole Mike Bloomberg, he was lighting his cash on fire by the pallet full during his short run.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jarqui
(10,474 posts)Then he lost Super Tuesday badly and was behind 900,000 votes at that point.
Last week, he barely won North Dakota pseudo caucus and lost most of the other five states badly. He was behind 150 delegates and 1.4 million votes.
He had his final debate shot Sunday and lost by most accounts - corroborated tonight.
And then he got swept tonight and would have lost Ohio. He's ~300 delegates and 2.47 million votes behind.
He's lost key battleground states like Michigan and Florida without winning a county.
Next week, he's going to get clobbered in Georgia.
He's very likely to get clobbered in PA, DE, OH, MD & LA
So in order to win, Bernie will be required to win about 75% or more of the remaining delegates after only winning 39.8% last week and only 32% of them tonight.
Fivethirtyeight and others could see what was coming a couple of weeks ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stand and Fight
(7,489 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Piasladic
(1,162 posts)Please give me a day to deal with this and fully support our guy (Biden). Don't be so quick to grind my nose in his (Sanders) loss.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)This should come as no surprise to anyone. Anyone could see this coming from ten miles away.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Piasladic
(1,162 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)No excuses. No delays. Now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Piasladic
(1,162 posts)I'm a good democrat, and I will vote blue no matter who, and I will be the biggest Biden supporter in my area (go team!). I am set to recruit new people at my college. I'm a Floridian, so tonight was a bit hard for me. I just asked for a day to deal, but you just want to be right and cruel.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... to continue their kneecapping efforts against Biden.
Honestly, His losses should come as NO SURPRISE to anyone. Bernie has had plenty of time to "deal" and so has anyone who's paying attention.
It's over. Finally. Over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)is that Bernie is pandering to the so-called young voter basking in thick crowds out on the beaches of Florida right now, hoping they'll turn out at the next primary, or the next, or quite possibly the next, and that he could care less that these continued primaries are endangering the lives of the elderly voters. I guess I can see why. After all, he thinks he's the candidate of the young voter. Clearly he doesn't care if the aged come out to vote like they always do and catch this horrible virus. He's almost as responsible for keeping this deadly contagion going as Trump. These primaries should be cancelled. Smaller elections and ballot questions can be postponed. Presidential can't (Article Two). So yeah, I think it's pretty mean that Bernie doesn't care if millions of old people die just so he can get a few more weeks to pressure Joe into adopting some of his policies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(84,216 posts)Whatever my feelings for each of the two last men standing, I WAY sympathize with how you feel.
When you give your heart to a candidate, and he or she isn't able to go all the way, it just sucks.
Sounds like taking a day (or three) to process stuff is a good idea. Most of us are house-bound anyway. This would be a great time to catch up on rest, or old emails, or something. Finish a craft project. Watch or read the news and keep up, and maybe take some notes. it may help arm you well enough to win an argument (with someone who obviously doesn't follow facts because otherwise, why would they support trump?). Now that spring seems to be here where I live, I may do some gardening out front, when I'm not sitting at my laptop doing Indivisible work, that is.
The next few days might be THE perfect time to give yourself a time-out. Sounds like the moment to cue the vintage McDonald's fast-food jingle that starts "you deserve a break today..." And besides, if you have to "shelter in place," and you're not in the mood for McDonald's, there's always the Food Network!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zonkers
(5,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peequod
(189 posts)Except I don't agree that Bernie's quest was quixotic, that would imply that he was delusional as was Don Quixote of literary fame. A lot of young people and myself, not so young, think his ideas should be the foundation for the Democratic party: Medicare for All, a minimum wage that rises with inflation, free state college tuition, some kind of student debt relief, a Green New Deal, etc. It's funny how these ideas were mocked as quixotic, pie-in-the-sky and impossibly expensive by corporate Dems, like Biden, and Republicans for ages. Now they are ideas with die-hard supporters that will have to be reckoned with.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,221 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
And also this!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,221 posts)Mahalo and StaySafe!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,443 posts)Put the health & safety of the country first.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,221 posts)down to that!?!
Aloha and Mahalo, Tarheel.Stay Safe
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,221 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squidly
(867 posts)Its been my fear all along that he would pull the same stunt he did last time around. Hes going to stay in all the way to the convention and fracture our party even more. Should have dropped out after super Tuesday, should drop out after tonight. But he wont.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,474 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vercetti2021
(10,395 posts)He's gonna fuck us again. I hope a real Democrat challenges him in the Senate. Time to put him out to pasture.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,815 posts)in Vermont. I could be wrong but I think I remember reading that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,221 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sunonmars
(8,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,147 posts)around Biden and launching a full attack on Trump. His voice would galvanize the party and the nation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,454 posts)Go out gracefully and as a statesman, Senator.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(12,008 posts)Another one of these threads? Really?
And by the way, "the people" have not all spoken yet. I'm starting to think Bernie should drop out too, given the circumstances, but proclamations such as "the people have spoken" really piss me off because many of us haven't had the chance to vote and may not even get the chance at all now.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomSlick
(11,852 posts)Plagiarism is the highest form of flattery. Besides, there hasn't been any original writing among lawyers since Coke wrote about Littleton.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)It's reality. Now, let's focus on Trump, please.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(12,008 posts)But please don't call yourself "the people" as if those of us who haven't voted don't matter. It's offensive.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(51,652 posts)opinion on this DU thread and all similar threads.
Your voice for Bernie has much greater impact here than your vote would ever be, buried somewhere beneath a landslide.
A real battle lies ahead of us.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(8,365 posts)Show me a path where Bernie can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I empathize. We really have little to no choice in reading this stuff, eh?
If we're tired of "these threads" we're simply unable to scroll past them as we're being held hostage, coerced or simply tricked by on-topic and relevant thread titles indicating the substance.
Those wascally-wabbits.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lettucebe
(2,339 posts)Why continue to run primary elections that he will not win when people need to stay out of crowds. He should do the right thing. The people have spoken.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Takket
(22,479 posts)it is literally bad for the country to continue with this. end it and let health officials not have to worry about more primaries
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(70,995 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(18,706 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
amuse bouche
(3,663 posts)Bernie didn't win one county in Florida
Illinois just called for Biden. Sanders has done a lot worse than in '16 and he lost in '16
He needs to concede and we need to get on to de-throning trump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
liberal N proud
(60,939 posts)1. What are the numbers it will take for Bernie to win the nomination, talking percentages for each of the remaining primaries.
2. Realistically, what are the odds of those percentages working out taking into account the recent primary results all the way back to South Carolina.
At some point reality bites you in the ass
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)It's simple math, really. Sanders would need a 20-to-30-point surge in every state just to be competitive and he'd probably still lose. And that was before today.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-sanders-needs-something-extraordinary-to-happen/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)And he will win every state after this. Your Dear Leader has zero chance of winning the remaining red states. He has zero chance of winning smaller blue states like Connecticut, Hawaii, Rhode Island and Delaware. And he has beyond zero chance of winning the big prizes remaining: New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Maryland and New Jersey.
When you have no path to victory, you put on your big kid pants and concede, for the good of the party and the country.
You don't keep hanging on because your ego (or worse) refuses to believe that the American people have decided that they don't want you or what you're peddling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
amuse bouche
(3,663 posts)I just saw an open invitation from him on twitter, for a virus discussion in an hour
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Frances
(8,578 posts)in the last debate
He didnt look like someone who could handle a crisis.
He didnt inspire confidence
My opinion
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
amuse bouche
(3,663 posts)I'm happy with Biden. He was not my first, second or third choice, but I think he can beat traitor trump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
texasfiddler
(2,188 posts)Some states are in jeopardy of losing their delegates if they wait too long. This makes Bidens lead closer to 50 plus 1
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yavin4
(36,236 posts)Good times then. Good times....oh...you're talking about the primaries. Never mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(17,405 posts)Use ohio as an example. The primaries will never be held. So no candidate will get to 50% of the current number. The line will move, and joe will be over it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,847 posts)The process is the process and there is little reason to short circuit it. This is Biden's perfect opportunity to reach Sanders voters. There is no reason to deny him that and to infuriate the Sanders supporters in the process.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)Just because it's Sanders in the race, we should ignore reality? Nah.
Candidates withdraw before the primary process has completed pretty much every election cycle. Sanders supporters aren't unique in supporting a candidate who no longer has any chance in the race and should withdraw. It happens to most voters every cycle.
The race is clearly over. He's just wasting everyone's time and energy at this point. If Sanders supporters are infuriated by simple math and reality, there's not much we can do to change that other than to suggest that they try some deductive reasoning. They should probably be more upset that he's giving them false hope and still asking them for money for a campaign that is clearly going to lose.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(7,003 posts)So better to start getting past it earlier than later
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)That's not unique either, of course. There is always a subset of voters who won't vote because their candidate didn't win the nomination. It happens every cycle. We just have to account for it and ignore the ones who are intent on disruption and won't show up regardless.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(17,405 posts)They are and always will be non-democratic voters. Even if bernie were the nominee, many of his supporters wouldn't vote for him.
Just the nature of his so-called base.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(7,003 posts)Whatever we lose in the sore loser camp, will be more than made up for with independents and never trumpers
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,847 posts)There is no reason to short-circuit it out of fear. Let Biden take this opportunity to bring it home. He shouldn't fear Sanders, he should be welcoming to his voters.
I don't see the need to bypass some pretty low-hanging fruit and piss off voters in the process. Biden is much stronger than you apparently think he is.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)Plenty of candidates wrap up a nomination long before all voters get to see a ballot. Until 2008, I saw neither hide nor hair of a primary candidate in my state during my adult life because, in previous races, the nominee had already been decided by then, so why bother? We voted, but that was because we had down-ticket races to deal with. Our votes didn't change anything about who the nomination became. Because it was already decided, long ago.
We in the tail end states put on our big kid pants and got over it when the nominee became clear before we got to vote. We didn't stamp our feet and demand to get to see all of the candidates, just because the voters decided early on who they wanted. That's because we were adults, not whiny-ass titty babies wanting their wishful thinking coddled.
Why do you demand that we all make an exception to the tradition of losers bowing out graciously when they have no clear path to winning, and, worse, demand it for a self-serving fake Democrat? Do you not comprehend the concept of good sportsmanship?
It's over, and it's time for the party to coalesce around our candidate, Joe Biden, rather than coddling a sore loser past his sell-by date.
if you don't like it that other people are ready to support their candidate and look ahead to November, then just go home and cry before voting for Dolt45 like you must want to, to keep supporting a loser staying in a race only because he wants to promote himself and his unicorn agenda, both of which Democratic voters--liberal voters--have made clear they do not want.
Because he will not be the candidate and dragging out the primaries because he refuses to accept that helps only the Mango Menace.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,847 posts)If you want potential Biden voters to feel cheated and left out then sure, it;s a great plan.
But what's the point? Biden is going to win. Let it play out as it is designed to play out What is a god damned rush? This is the perfect opportunity for Biden to come out with a unifying the party by demanding a full process where everyone is heard. Why is that hard? Why is that bad?
Your premise demands that Biden be too weak o defend himself. That's clearly wrong. Biden has proven he is stronger than that. Why blow the opportunity out of unfounded fear?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SunSeeker
(53,619 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
splunge63
(158 posts)I'd love to be wrong about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NBachers
(18,116 posts)I just donated again. Let's give Joe the fuel he needs to blast off into the White House.
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/joebiden1
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Magoo48
(5,290 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)like Bernie
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Smart thinking.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,254 posts)he should have dropped out last week. I'm glad he lost by embarrassingly large margins tonight.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)To Sanders and supporters, I understand how hard it is to let go of your dream.
But its time to unite behind Biden so can focus on beating this dangerous moron in the White House.
Peace
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapfog_1
(30,110 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(27,255 posts)the sacrosanct nature of the two-party system). Would I take away enough votes from the Democrat to elect the Republican? But a funny thing happened on the way to Election Day. I wasn't the spoiler, after all, the Democrat was."
He won't drop out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive dog
(7,219 posts)and enthusiasticly endorse Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden