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grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:19 AM Mar 2020

Don't Expect Bernie To Drop Out Just Yet

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I want the senator to stay in,” Nina Turner, a national co-chair of the Sanders campaign, told the New York Times on Monday. “I think other voters have a right to have a choice. This is not a coronation. We know what happened last time in 2016—it gave us Donald J. Trump.”

But some in Sanders’ camp have urged him to stay in the race because they still see a potential avenue to victory. “I don’t think anyone can predict for sure what’s going to happen between now and the end of this primary contest,” Charles Chamberlain, chairman of the Democracy for America political action committee, told Politico, suggesting Sanders could nab the nomination at a brokered convention should neither candidate reach the delegate threshold outright. “There’s plenty of time, plenty of delegates left, and this game can change at any minute.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/dont-expect-bernie-to-drop-out-just-yet

Bern it Down part II?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Don't Expect Bernie To Drop Out Just Yet (Original Post) grossproffit Mar 2020 OP
Nina - YOU voted for Jill Stein, YOU helped give us trump. Of all people to be talking! George II Mar 2020 #1
This makes my blood boil: Maven Mar 2020 #2
Nina True Blue American Mar 2020 #6
At this rate there won't be another primary. Drunken Irishman Mar 2020 #3
There can't really be a brokered convention, or any convention frazzled Mar 2020 #11
It does mean there will be an emergency rule change. Drunken Irishman Mar 2020 #12
Yeah, it's gonna be ugly no matter what frazzled Mar 2020 #14
We need to ignore them. showblue22 Mar 2020 #4
He will not be happy until he burns our party to the ground. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #5
Ain't gonna happen! True Blue American Mar 2020 #7
That's not true. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #16
"it gave us Donald J. Trump". Uh no, Nina, people like *you* gave us Trump. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #8
Nina needs to understand that a primary is not an election...and in every primary some don't vote... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #9
Nina, no one expects Sanders to quit. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #10
Someone needs to explain the electoral college to them. ReformedGOPer Mar 2020 #13
I've seen this movie. It was shitty the first time too. Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #15
I guess its why he's accomplished nothing ReformedGOPer Mar 2020 #17
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Nina - YOU voted for Jill Stein, YOU helped give us trump. Of all people to be talking!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:20 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Maven

(10,533 posts)
2. This makes my blood boil:
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:22 AM
Mar 2020

"We know what happened last time in 2016"

YEAH WE DO NINA. And your boss never took responsibility for his role in what happened. And neither did you or your cohorts, many of whom voted third party or stayed home. And now, you and your candidate seem poised to do it all over again. How DARE you talk about "what happened last time in 2016".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Blue American

(18,152 posts)
6. Nina
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:27 AM
Mar 2020
could not even win her election in Northern Ohio. I put little faith in her. She is a political hanger on. Who ever will hire her.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
3. At this rate there won't be another primary.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:26 AM
Mar 2020

After today, it's possible they get their wish and all the other primaries are postponed. Then what? Bernie contests the virtual convention by saying Biden didn't win a majority of delegates and since most states didn't vote, we truly don't know who the nominee is and therefore, it should go to a brokered convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
11. There can't really be a brokered convention, or any convention
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:43 AM
Mar 2020

if delegates aren't elected from each of the states. The superdelegates can't vote until the delegates do, and you can't have a convention with fewer than half of the delegates.

Unless there are emergency rule changes.

Besides, a brokered convention means the superdelegates will vote on the second round, and very few will be voting for Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
12. It does mean there will be an emergency rule change.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:50 AM
Mar 2020

Similar to what happened in 2008 with MI and FL where both Obama and Clinton were given delegates in states that technically voted but didn't have their votes count.

My guess is that it'll happen in these states similarly. Problem is, it'll only embolden their cries of disenfranchisement and that the nomination was stolen from him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
14. Yeah, it's gonna be ugly no matter what
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:06 PM
Mar 2020

But this is life in the new Corona State

If I were to vote in a presidential
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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
4. We need to ignore them.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:26 AM
Mar 2020

We should pivot to the general and ignore them and any of their supporters who believe he is truly still in this race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,474 posts)
5. He will not be happy until he burns our party to the ground.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:26 AM
Mar 2020

I have more than had it with him. A vast majority of the people who continue to support him will never vote for a democrat. We need to quit pandering to them. I hope Joe can beat him badly enough people see him for what he truly is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Blue American

(18,152 posts)
7. Ain't gonna happen!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:29 AM
Mar 2020

Democrats have made their choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Turin_C3PO

(15,815 posts)
16. That's not true.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

Polls right now from one of the states that already voted show that about 80% of Sanders voters will vote Biden. I predict that number will reach 90% by fall. In my admittedly anecdotal experience, the seven Bernie supporters I know, my mom included, will happily get behind Biden in the general. Most Bernie voters aren’t like those toxic assholes on social media.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
8. "it gave us Donald J. Trump". Uh no, Nina, people like *you* gave us Trump.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:29 AM
Mar 2020

They really are completely detached from reality, aren't they?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,995 posts)
9. Nina needs to understand that a primary is not an election...and in every primary some don't vote...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:32 AM
Mar 2020

Ohio rarely matters in a primary. This is the same old excuse they used before.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(29,772 posts)
10. Nina, no one expects Sanders to quit.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:40 AM
Mar 2020

As a matter of fact, we know the course Sanders will take. The selfish endless campaign that hopes to drag the whole Party down. And I don’t mean the Republican Party.

Once his tactics fail, he’ll Independent his status again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ReformedGOPer

(478 posts)
13. Someone needs to explain the electoral college to them.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:01 PM
Mar 2020

I have often said (in 2016) and now, that at some point , Bernie has no pathway to a win. When I ask them "what pathway do they see for a Bernie win, they often start calling me names and they end the conversation.

They continue to think that Bernie has a chance as long as the primaries last.

Someone needs to explain to them, that very soon, mathematically, Bernie can't get the delegates to surpass Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(8,365 posts)
15. I've seen this movie. It was shitty the first time too.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:10 PM
Mar 2020

In 2016, Sanders stayed in WELL past the point of viability.

He'll do so again now.

And that's why he is such a bad politician. He can't bring himself to back off. Ever.

For example, it's why he voted against the 2008 bailout. It wasn't "good enough" for him, and he'd rather the economy collapse than we get something less than optimal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ReformedGOPer

(478 posts)
17. I guess its why he's accomplished nothing
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:24 PM
Mar 2020

in his legislative career. It has to be his way or no way. And then he hangs on so long that you hate his guts.
Like they say- Fish, and company go bad in 3 days. Bernie's gone bad 3 years ago.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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