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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:07 AM Mar 2020

Let me tell you my experience with older voters

I live in Traverse city Michigan, my wife and I live with my mother who is 66 years old. It's her property and we take care of her and my grandmother who is still alive at 80. I take them to the local salon once a week so they can get their hair done. I get a window into what is on the minds of the ladies there who are all mostly around 65-80. They also hosts spades card game they play once a week. Anyway, They're both very social still.

They were so exited to vote for Biden here, I know they would risk their lives or walk through glass, as they say... to be able to vote. It's more than a pro Biden vote, it's also an anti Bernie vote. The hate they feel for him is visceral and it is a big motivator to vote. I don't think Bernie supporter have any idea that there is a large amount of older folks who feel this way. I'm sure there is a lot of Ohio voters disappointed they can't vote tomorrow. I remember how exited and ramped up my mom and her friends were here in MI.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Let me tell you my experience with older voters (Original Post) showblue22 Mar 2020 OP
I am old and that is how I feel about Bernie. katmondoo Mar 2020 #1
In a way, Bernie is driving a large voter turn out. showblue22 Mar 2020 #2
nah Skittles Mar 2020 #5
No, Bernie True Blue American Mar 2020 #27
Both, both seen as toxic manifestations of electorate dysfunctions. Hortensis Mar 2020 #30
me for sure Skittles Mar 2020 #39
Me, too! I want him to go away, and not come back. n/t Tess49 Mar 2020 #11
My older sister is 69 a life long Democratic voter and she thinks Bernie is a evil commie kimbutgar Mar 2020 #3
It's very real. showblue22 Mar 2020 #6
No, True Blue American Mar 2020 #28
Honestly True Blue American Mar 2020 #31
Thanks for that, showblue.. Ohio voter.. Cha Mar 2020 #4
Bernie is running negative ads showblue22 Mar 2020 #8
I know what he's doing. Cha Mar 2020 #10
So do I. showblue22 Mar 2020 #12
Too bad he had such a Cha Mar 2020 #14
It's interesting showblue22 Mar 2020 #15
Yes.. I didn't know DeWine was on the Sunday shows.. Cha Mar 2020 #17
I visited in Sterling Heights last month k8conant Mar 2020 #7
They are the exception showblue22 Mar 2020 #9
I'm impressed you know any Democrats of that age in Traverse City! MaryMagdaline Mar 2020 #13
Many of us are democrats. showblue22 Mar 2020 #16
Apparently young people like that Grumpy Grandpa personality, pnwmom Mar 2020 #18
What the young like True Blue American Mar 2020 #32
I've known my lovely MIL for 35 years renate Mar 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2020 #20
At age 70, I can assure you that "older," voters are as diverse as whathehell Mar 2020 #21
Ohio will be interesting tomorrow c_junk Mar 2020 #22
I'm a 70 year old Michigan voter and I didn't vote safeinOhio Mar 2020 #23
Did you move from OH to MI? showblue22 Mar 2020 #24
Yes, Moved back a few years ago. safeinOhio Mar 2020 #26
I'm young, and I feel the same way. Shell_Seas Mar 2020 #25
Every Democrat I know is for Biden. True Blue American Mar 2020 #29
My takeaway: rownesheck Mar 2020 #33
My father was 5 years younger than my mother showblue22 Mar 2020 #34
Yeah, wondering that myself frazzled Mar 2020 #35
She's my fathers mother. showblue22 Mar 2020 #37
Got it. frazzled Mar 2020 #38
From my outreach and canvassing in a local 5 county area NCProgressive Mar 2020 #36
 

katmondoo

(6,495 posts)
1. I am old and that is how I feel about Bernie.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:09 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
2. In a way, Bernie is driving a large voter turn out.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:13 AM
Mar 2020

LOL

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Skittles

(158,741 posts)
5. nah
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:15 AM
Mar 2020

it's really disgust with Trump that is the major factor

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

True Blue American

(18,152 posts)
27. No, Bernie
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:36 AM
Mar 2020

Has earned his reputation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Both, both seen as toxic manifestations of electorate dysfunctions.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:52 AM
Mar 2020

People who've been around longer have seen more. Those who lived through the similar dysfunctions of the 1930s are gone now, but children they raised and for whom that history was the recent past are still with us.

As for Sanders' obsession with socialism, reportedly some younger people are seeing romance in this idea. But older voters all lived through the decades during which all the socialist experiments failed, usually turning into oppressive and impoverished authoritarian states but causing dreadful suffering in all those nations while the rest of the planet saw great advances. Older people see no romance in poverty and oppression to keep power, and certainly not in fanaticism and mass stupidity.

Thanks for the view from Traverse City.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(158,741 posts)
39. me for sure
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:28 PM
Mar 2020

I am not a big fan of Biden but I'd take him any day over DT and BS....it is utter DISGUST for Trump that is driving me to vote

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tess49

(1,596 posts)
11. Me, too! I want him to go away, and not come back. n/t
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:32 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kimbutgar

(23,205 posts)
3. My older sister is 69 a life long Democratic voter and she thinks Bernie is a evil commie
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:13 AM
Mar 2020

I was surprised by her visceral dislike of Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
6. It's very real.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:18 AM
Mar 2020

These older voters for Biden are super excited and motivated to get out and vote. They want Bernie done ASAP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Blue American

(18,152 posts)
28. No,
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:38 AM
Mar 2020
i feel the same. Bernie goes beyond Socialist. It has been clear since 2016.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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True Blue American

(18,152 posts)
31. Honestly
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:04 AM
Mar 2020

[b I wanted to use that word but hesitated.

Bernie is too enamored of the RUssian way of life and his dogmatic my way or the highway is pretty clear how he thinks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,220 posts)
4. Thanks for that, showblue.. Ohio voter..
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:14 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
8. Bernie is running negative ads
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:27 AM
Mar 2020

In PA and OH, swing states and knows he has no path. We can conclude from that whatever we choose, I guess.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(305,220 posts)
10. I know what he's doing.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:30 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
12. So do I.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:33 AM
Mar 2020

I wish we could say it. It's actually in his early writings.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Cha

(305,220 posts)
14. Too bad he had such a
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:37 AM
Mar 2020

bad debate performance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
15. It's interesting
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:41 AM
Mar 2020

That Ohio waited until after the debates to make the moves they did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(305,220 posts)
17. Yes.. I didn't know DeWine was on the Sunday shows..
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:58 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

k8conant

(3,034 posts)
7. I visited in Sterling Heights last month
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:21 AM
Mar 2020

and my cousin and her husband (in their 80s) were both Bernie supporters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
9. They are the exception
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:29 AM
Mar 2020

Just look who is voting for Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MaryMagdaline

(7,863 posts)
13. I'm impressed you know any Democrats of that age in Traverse City!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:36 AM
Mar 2020

My cousins in Detroit area were equally motivated to vote for Biden and against Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
16. Many of us are democrats.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:44 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(109,537 posts)
18. Apparently young people like that Grumpy Grandpa personality,
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:17 AM
Mar 2020

but most older women don't appreciate being yelled at and scolded.

And they know that no woman would ever have gotten anywhere behaving like Bernie, and that's annoying, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Blue American

(18,152 posts)
32. What the young like
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:15 AM
Mar 2020

Is that FREE! They are too young to realize nothing is free!

My Son was shocked to hear that Jane bankrupted a College, then managed to get a Government job, asking why he never eard this stuff. He is too busy to pay attention to Politics, although he votes Democrat he despises all those free promises.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

renate

(13,776 posts)
19. I've known my lovely MIL for 35 years
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:48 AM
Mar 2020

And never ever ever discussed politics. Never. I’ve always assumed I was too far left for her Midwestern sensibilities, because... I’m pretty far left.

We talked politics for the first time ever today. She LOATHES him.

I’m not surprised, because she is a good and wonderful person, but... yay!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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whathehell

(29,757 posts)
21. At age 70, I can assure you that "older," voters are as diverse as
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:06 AM
Mar 2020

other demographics, and just as "surprised" by each others choices.. Why in hell anyone on the left side of the aisle, would "hate" Bernie is beyond me. He's an opponent, not an enemy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

c_junk

(46 posts)
22. Ohio will be interesting tomorrow
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:14 AM
Mar 2020

DeWine closed the polls. A little after that tonight a judge said no to the delay.

Tomorrow there will be a tsunami of confusion in Ohio, IMO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

safeinOhio

(34,016 posts)
23. I'm a 70 year old Michigan voter and I didn't vote
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:19 AM
Mar 2020

against Sanders, I voted for Biden. I call myself a Democratic Socialist and that makes me an Anti-Fascist.
I voted for Sanders 4 years ago and then voted for Clinton in the elections. I think it is now time for Bernie to throw in the towel and save some older voters from the risk of the virus by having to go to the polls in the primaries that are left.
I truly think we all need to unite to dump trump. I won't bad mouth anyone on the Left, even Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
24. Did you move from OH to MI?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:23 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

safeinOhio

(34,016 posts)
26. Yes, Moved back a few years ago.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:28 AM
Mar 2020

It became safe for me to move back. I love Ohio and met the love of my life there. But, my heart was still in Michigan and I brought my love back with me and she loves it too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Shell_Seas

(3,446 posts)
25. I'm young, and I feel the same way.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:25 AM
Mar 2020

If you think 39 is young.

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True Blue American

(18,152 posts)
29. Every Democrat I know is for Biden.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:43 AM
Mar 2020

We will be voting for Biden, one way or the other!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
33. My takeaway:
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:29 AM
Mar 2020

Your grandmother gave birth to your mom when she was 14?! Yikes!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
34. My father was 5 years younger than my mother
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:32 AM
Mar 2020

He passed of metastasized bladder cancer. It's his bio mom. He didn't have insurance, too young for SS so by the time he went to the DR it had penetrated the bladder wall.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
35. Yeah, wondering that myself
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:16 AM
Mar 2020

I’m kinda hoping that was a typo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
37. She's my fathers mother.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:23 AM
Mar 2020

My father was 5 years younger than my mom. He has passed. Where else do we leave grandma?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
36. From my outreach and canvassing in a local 5 county area
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:31 AM
Mar 2020

I find that loyal, lifelong Democrats hate Bernie as much as they hate Trump.

After Nevada, alarm bells sounded in those people's heads and they became far more energized and enthusiastic to come out and cast an anti-Bernie vote for Biden even though many of them supported other candidates before.

Bernie's going back to being an independent has left a bitter taste in their mouths that he cannot possibly overcome.

Now, November cannot come soon enough for these people and they will carry their energy and enthusiasm to kick the orange clown out on his hiney.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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