Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumLet me tell you my experience with older voters
I live in Traverse city Michigan, my wife and I live with my mother who is 66 years old. It's her property and we take care of her and my grandmother who is still alive at 80. I take them to the local salon once a week so they can get their hair done. I get a window into what is on the minds of the ladies there who are all mostly around 65-80. They also hosts spades card game they play once a week. Anyway, They're both very social still.
They were so exited to vote for Biden here, I know they would risk their lives or walk through glass, as they say... to be able to vote. It's more than a pro Biden vote, it's also an anti Bernie vote. The hate they feel for him is visceral and it is a big motivator to vote. I don't think Bernie supporter have any idea that there is a large amount of older folks who feel this way. I'm sure there is a lot of Ohio voters disappointed they can't vote tomorrow. I remember how exited and ramped up my mom and her friends were here in MI.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
katmondoo
(6,495 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)LOL
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
it's really disgust with Trump that is the major factor
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(18,152 posts)Has earned his reputation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)People who've been around longer have seen more. Those who lived through the similar dysfunctions of the 1930s are gone now, but children they raised and for whom that history was the recent past are still with us.
As for Sanders' obsession with socialism, reportedly some younger people are seeing romance in this idea. But older voters all lived through the decades during which all the socialist experiments failed, usually turning into oppressive and impoverished authoritarian states but causing dreadful suffering in all those nations while the rest of the planet saw great advances. Older people see no romance in poverty and oppression to keep power, and certainly not in fanaticism and mass stupidity.
Thanks for the view from Traverse City.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(158,741 posts)I am not a big fan of Biden but I'd take him any day over DT and BS....it is utter DISGUST for Trump that is driving me to vote
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tess49
(1,596 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kimbutgar
(23,205 posts)I was surprised by her visceral dislike of Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)These older voters for Biden are super excited and motivated to get out and vote. They want Bernie done ASAP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,152 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,152 posts)[b I wanted to use that word but hesitated.
Bernie is too enamored of the RUssian way of life and his dogmatic my way or the highway is pretty clear how he thinks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,220 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)In PA and OH, swing states and knows he has no path. We can conclude from that whatever we choose, I guess.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,220 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I wish we could say it. It's actually in his early writings.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,220 posts)bad debate performance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)That Ohio waited until after the debates to make the moves they did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,220 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
k8conant
(3,034 posts)and my cousin and her husband (in their 80s) were both Bernie supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
showblue22
(1,026 posts)Just look who is voting for Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MaryMagdaline
(7,863 posts)My cousins in Detroit area were equally motivated to vote for Biden and against Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,537 posts)but most older women don't appreciate being yelled at and scolded.
And they know that no woman would ever have gotten anywhere behaving like Bernie, and that's annoying, too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,152 posts)Is that FREE! They are too young to realize nothing is free!
My Son was shocked to hear that Jane bankrupted a College, then managed to get a Government job, asking why he never eard this stuff. He is too busy to pay attention to Politics, although he votes Democrat he despises all those free promises.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
renate
(13,776 posts)And never ever ever discussed politics. Never. Ive always assumed I was too far left for her Midwestern sensibilities, because... Im pretty far left.
We talked politics for the first time ever today. She LOATHES him.
Im not surprised, because she is a good and wonderful person, but... yay!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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whathehell
(29,757 posts)other demographics, and just as "surprised" by each others choices.. Why in hell anyone on the left side of the aisle, would "hate" Bernie is beyond me. He's an opponent, not an enemy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
c_junk
(46 posts)DeWine closed the polls. A little after that tonight a judge said no to the delay.
Tomorrow there will be a tsunami of confusion in Ohio, IMO.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
safeinOhio
(34,016 posts)against Sanders, I voted for Biden. I call myself a Democratic Socialist and that makes me an Anti-Fascist.
I voted for Sanders 4 years ago and then voted for Clinton in the elections. I think it is now time for Bernie to throw in the towel and save some older voters from the risk of the virus by having to go to the polls in the primaries that are left.
I truly think we all need to unite to dump trump. I won't bad mouth anyone on the Left, even Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
safeinOhio
(34,016 posts)It became safe for me to move back. I love Ohio and met the love of my life there. But, my heart was still in Michigan and I brought my love back with me and she loves it too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shell_Seas
(3,446 posts)If you think 39 is young.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,152 posts)We will be voting for Biden, one way or the other!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)Your grandmother gave birth to your mom when she was 14?! Yikes!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)He passed of metastasized bladder cancer. It's his bio mom. He didn't have insurance, too young for SS so by the time he went to the DR it had penetrated the bladder wall.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Im kinda hoping that was a typo.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)My father was 5 years younger than my mom. He has passed. Where else do we leave grandma?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
frazzled
(18,402 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)I find that loyal, lifelong Democrats hate Bernie as much as they hate Trump.
After Nevada, alarm bells sounded in those people's heads and they became far more energized and enthusiastic to come out and cast an anti-Bernie vote for Biden even though many of them supported other candidates before.
Bernie's going back to being an independent has left a bitter taste in their mouths that he cannot possibly overcome.
Now, November cannot come soon enough for these people and they will carry their energy and enthusiasm to kick the orange clown out on his hiney.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden