Joe Biden/Susan Rice

[IluvPitties]

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What you guys think?

[Ninga]

1. No.

While there are many women who are admirable, we do not need a VP who has to undergo a learning curve. We need a VP with:
Legislative experience. Understanding the dynamics of the House and Senate and already knowing the people who serve. Experience questioning in hearings.
On day one the VP will have to hit the ground running to carry out the Presidents agenda and do so with successful messaging.

[onetexan]

9. agree, we need someone who can hit the ground running from Day 1.

There is just so much to rebuild/reverse/rethink. Kamala is the better fit. I'm sure the other 2 ladies can be appointed to other positions in the administration, as there will be great need of good Dem leaders as they.

[Ninga]

13. Biden was the perfect VP for Obama because

he brought 40 years of experience to the position.

[onetexan]

14. spot on. Experience matters.

[Dem4Life1102]

31. If experience mattered

Trump wouldn't be President.

[LAS14]

51. Tump is the poster boy for why experience matters! nt

[Dem4Life1102]

56. Not in electoral politics

or Clinton would be President.

[Skya Rhen]

20. Rep. Val Demings (Impeachment House Mgr) fit these criteria. Seems to be a fav of Pelosi & Clyburn.

[peggysue2]

43. Val Demings was very impressive during the impeachment hearings

And . . . she hails from Florida, a state I'd love to see us win.

Biden has a wealth of choices to consider!

[FM123]

52. Yep!

We have so much "crazy stuff" here in FL- she is the bright shining light that gives us hope and makes us so very proud.

[leftieNanner]

2. Ooh!

I like. He should choose someone who is not currently in office - governor, House rep, or Senator. We need to keep our Dems in those positions.

[exboyfil]

3. Susan Rice has a lot of appeal

Because you don't have to muck around with the Senate seat, and, given this crisis, I think we want all our Senators in Washington and not on the campaign trail.

Stability and competence

[CTyankee]

5. She's impressive and young, but not too young. I think she's perfect.

Can't wait to vote for that ticket...

[2naSalit]

23. Either VP or Sec of State.

[stillcool]

30. it makes perfect sense..

[evertonfc]

4. good

ATL mayor Bottoms

[Skya Rhen]

19. She's loyal and can hold her own...

[LizBeth]

6. Rice. I do not need any big personalities. I want substance, smart, capable.

[Skya Rhen]

16. Yes, I'm not interested in any "Ms. Popularity". We need someone with gravitas, who can take charge.

[BlueSky3]

61. This speech by Susan Rice

I've been on DU for years and don't post much, but this mention of Susan Rice got me to look for speeches of hers. In this one:

-- she's speaking last year for Class Day at Tufts, she shows a lot of wit and that quality everyone talks about, likability.

I hope Joe Biden seriously considers her. But then, I like Val Demings, too.

[Ninga]

7. Biden will need an experienced VP. The times

circumstances require it.
Each and every experience will be new and present as a steep learning curve. Not this time.

[Polly Hennessey]

8. Two great choices.

I am in the Samantha Powers corner. Susan Rice would be perfect, too.

[JaneQPublic]

10. Samantha Power isn't eligible.

She was born in Ireland.

Not a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution.

[2naSalit]

24. Perhaps she could return as Sec. of State?

Susan Rice would be one of my top picks.

[JaneQPublic]

26. She would be an ideal candidate for that job.

And after dealing with Pompeo, the entire world would heave a sigh of relief to deal with Samantha.

[Celerity]

32. she is not eligible, yes, but she was born in London, to Irish parents

[JaneQPublic]

44. Her Wiki page says she was born in UK, but many other sources say Ireland.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22793939

https://www.rcsi.com/dublin/news-and-events/news/news-article/2019/11/former-us-ambassador-to-un-samantha-power-receives-emily-winifred-dickson-award-at-rcsi

https://www.who2.com/bio/samantha-power/

https://ballotpedia.org/Samantha_Power

https://www.economist.com/books-and-arts/2019/09/21/samantha-powers-portrait-of-american-diplomacy

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-education-of-an-idealist-and-tough-love-review-the-fog-of-policy-11571433893

https://awpc.cattcenter.iastate.edu/directory/samantha-power/

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/How-the-genocide-in-Bosnia-shaped-Samantha-Power-605883

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/conversations/samantha-power/11715930

[Celerity]

45. in her autobiography she says she was born in London, raised in Dublin

https://aerbook.com/books/The_Education_of_an_Idealist-227723.html?social=1&retail=1&emailcap=0



snip




here is the Irish times saying the same thing

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/samantha-power-being-the-only-woman-in-the-un-made-me-a-feminist-1.3290460

and

The Encyclopaedia Britannica

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Samantha-Power

[JaneQPublic]

46. Her bio doesn't actually say she was born in London

It says she was born "while Mum was still studying to become a doctor in London."

That says London is where her mother was pursuing a medical degree, not where she gave birth. She doesn't specifically say there where she was born.

The Irish Times article is the same one quoted in her Wiki entry.

[tavernier]

49. Doesn't matter. According to Fox it will be

Kenya.

[dailytroubadour]

11. I like Rice

Susan Rice strikes me as solid, stable, intelligent, experienced, with the right kind of gravitas for the moment we are in. Assuming there are no skeletons in the closet, she would make a fine VP choice.

[OnDoutside]

12. Samantha Power was born in Ireland, emigrating as a child.

[Celerity]

33. she was born in London, to Irish parents nt

[OnDoutside]

38. Not born in the US anyway.

[Celerity]

39. yes, either way she is not eligible, you are 100% correct

[OnDoutside]

40. Indeed

[samnsara]

15. Val Demmings!

[Skya Rhen]

17. Yes - solid, well-accomplished individual who can also help deliver Florida in the GE.

[Ninga]

21. Yes. She has congressional experience and would be ready to go day one.

[MacKasey]

18. Samantha Power born in Ireland

That's too bad

Rice born in Washington D.C. Only 55, is good

[Celerity]

34. she was born in London, to Irish parents nt

[MacKasey]

47. You are correct

The summary on Wikipedia says Ireland but when you click on the details it says London

Thanks

I won't go by the summary anymore, will look at the full Wikipedia

[IluvPitties]

22. Too bad Powers is not elegible! Still, I feel Rice could do a phenomenal job!

[2naSalit]

25. She could be a Cabinet member again.

She was before.

[Jarqui]

27. Susan Rice is a smart, no nonsense lady

She'd be on my short list.

I like Samantha too but born in Ireland would be a problem.

We have a lot of great, talented women candidates who can also help fill a great cabinet

[applegrove]

28. Love Love Love them both.

[Chakaconcarne]

29. Kamala...

[gulliver]

35. Rice is brilliant and would be a great choice.

I love listening to her. On the fly she can verbally put together parsable sentences with about sixty words, three sub-clauses, and a parenthetical–with zingers. I almost feel sorry for Pence if he has to debate her. He would be obliterated.

[IluvPitties]

36. Yeah- I am feeling her! Biden/Rice would be a wonderful ticket.

[LiberalFighter]

37. I love Susan Rice. She is very smart.

[Blue_true]

41. She is not a politician by nature.

Do we really want a technocrat facing a liar like Pence in a debate?

[Tercules]

42. Don't understand the commenters saying she doesn't have the "experience"

She's been in politics basically her entire life. Advocating a president's policy goals to legislators doesn't require having actually been a legislator. And she's probably second to none in the ability to deal with foreign governments, given her foreign policy and ambassador background. IMO would be a much stronger ticket than someone like Stacy Abrams, a current favorite amongst many here, and much more able to hit the ground running if something happened to Biden.

[tinrobot]

48. Not a campaigner. Gotta go with Kamala.

[LAS14]

50. I like it very much! nt

[skylucy]

53. I like it! I am very impressed with Susan Rice!

[awesomerwb1]

55. She has "baggage" (the russiapublican fake type)

So it would be a no for me.

[3catwoman3]

58. The Republicans would be beating the "meeting on the tarmac with Bill"...

...drum immediately.

[Pompoy]

62. No, that was the AG, Loretta Lynch n/t

[3catwoman3]

63. Thank you for the correction.

My apologies.

[beachbumbob]

57. GOOD GOD NO NO NO

why give GOP bait to attack????????????????????????

[3catwoman3]

59. I find Representative Demings impressive as hell.

She is one badass woman.

[Happy Hoosier]

60. Nah. But maybe for SoS?

[Pompoy]

64. I love Rice as VP

I hope Biden hasn't already shut the door on her by saying he prefers the ones he debated already.
He needs a woman, and he needs her to be black.

Stacy Abrams, sounded great, but we don't really know her. Kamala sounds like the front runner, but I do have reservations about her, from her making funny faces when Schummer told her to be more respectful, to her past in San Francisco climbing the ladder with Willie Brown's help.

Val Demings got me excited because she was great during the impeachment hearings, but I don't know if she has any negatives I'm not aware of.
Susan Rice is awesome, and she has been vetted, Susan Rice it is for me.