Pulse of DU poll- The Biden Veepstakes

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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	Kamala Harris
	48 (55%)
	Stacey Abrams
	8 (9%)
	Elizabeth Warren
	9 (10%)
	Amy Klobuchar
	13 (15%)
	Catherine Cortez Masto
	1 (1%)
	Susan Rice
	3 (3%)
	Other
	6 (7%)
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[stonecutter357]

1. Stacey Abrams !

[LakeArenal]

2. I like three of those.

But I also like Pete.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Joe committed to a female vice presidential running mate tonight.

[LakeArenal]

5. I understand that, thank you.

I still like Pete. I can say that.

[Walleye]

14. Pete can be Kamala's running mate in 2024.

[LakeArenal]

16. Not for me. But I'd like to get through this election first.

[padfun]

4. Rice for VP, Harris for SCOTUS

[LakeArenal]

6. Obama for S.C.

[padfun]

10. 8. I like that. Either one.

[FailureToCommunicate]

17. I fear that if Rice were the choice, it would be Benghazi Benghazi 24/7 from the

Republicans.

[WheelWalker]

52. Benghazi is a dead dog, in my opinion, and will not hunt.

Rice is an excellent choice and I believe she's got a good chance of being on the ticket.

[sop]

80. No hunting dog ever dies for Republicans, even dead ones will continue hunting Hunter Biden.

It will be Ukraine/Burisma for the entire 2020 campaign, and Benghazi/Hillary if Rice is Biden's running mate.

[relayerbob]

7. Val Demings

[left-of-center2012]

9. As was discussed on CNN & MSNBC tonight

There are many qualified female candidates for VP,
beyond the ones frequently mentioned.

I think he will surprise us.

[Awsi Dooger]

28. Our vice presidential field has vastly more depth than the presidential field

Not even close. You really have to thread the needle with that presidential nominee.

[FM123]

11. Congresswoman Val Demings from Florida

[House of Roberts]

12. OK. Which one can you see being a really top-notch

presidential candidate in 2024?

I don't see Biden (or Bernie) going for two terms at this time.

[trueblue2007]

13. i think he will nominate Kamala Harristo the supremes .... fullfilling his other campaign promise

i hopes he will choose WARREN. get those women ..... more liberal and younger voters !!!!!!

[happybird]

15. Love Kamala

Think she would kick more ass as Atty. General.
Went with Klobuchar.

[BidenBacker]

18. You could probably throw a dart and hit a good VP pick

But I'd rather throw it at the current Veep...preferably a poisoned one.

[Turin_C3PO]

95. Good one!

Lol.

[ElementaryPenguin]

19. It will be Amy.

Susan Rice for the Supreme Court.

I love Kamala, but I think when she turned on Joe in the debate, (about bussing) the chances of ever being his running mate vanished.

[BidenBacker]

20. Amy might be too "moderate" a ticket

Harris actually has a better lifetime progressive voting record than even Bernie does on "crucial votes".

But Kamala sure does look like a great utility player...Joe can pick her for a multitude of positions and she'd be a fine choice for any of 'em.

[BidenBacker]

22. Actually

Harris has a better score than Bernie overall and not just on crucial votes...

https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=senate&sort=overall-lifetime&order=down&party=

That oughta help shut up any Bernie Bros who are true progressives and not just cult members.

Warren if Joe wants salt...Harris if he wants pepper...Rice if he wants a running mate with tons of national security cred.

Any one of those would drop Pence in the 2nd round.

[dansolo]

39. He doesn't need Rice

Joe has more than enough National Security cred, and I don't ever want to hear the word Benghazi during the election. I think it will be Harris.

[Celerity]

21. Rice doesn't have a law degree (yes I know it is not needed, but the odds are so low of that

happening.)

James F. Byrnes, whose short tenure lasted from June 1941 to October 1942, was the last Justice without a law degree to be appointed; Byrnes resigned from the Court after only 15 months to head the Office of Economic Stabilization. His Supreme Court tenure is the second shortest of any justice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_F._Byrnes#United_States_Senate_and_Supreme_Court

[comradebillyboy]

23. For me it was between Klobuchar and Harris. My wife

likes Klobuchar so I voted Klobuchar. I always do what my wife wants when it's what I want too.

[Awsi Dooger]

27. Wives everywhere would like Klobuchar

Harris remains overhyped here because of her aggressive senate questioning style. That type of thing doesn't play well in swing voter living rooms.

I'm amazed that isn't better understood

[ZZenith]

30. Do you have evidence for those assertions?

Any of them?

[MrsCoffee]

43. Wtf?

Cuz you say so?

Yeah, no. Not this wife.

[Turin_C3PO]

96. I don't agree,

I know plenty of married women who would, undoubtedly, be thrilled with Kamala Harris.

Whoever Joe picks, it should be a woman of color, not Amy Klobuchar. No disrespect to Amy but I don’t think she adds that much to the ticket.

[chia]

24. Very satisfying to be able to vote for Kamala Harris

[SKKY]

25. Just to throw a dark horse candidate out there...

Sally Yates has been very impressive every time I’ve heard her testify.

[dansolo]

40. I'm hoping he has Sally Yates slotted as AG

She would add instant credibility to the AG office. She has the experience, and she is apolitical. I don't think she would even want to be VP.

[SKKY]

45. That would be the obvious choice, for sure...

...but since he limited it to a female VP, thought I would add Sally to the mix.

[TruckFump]

26. Kick. EOM

[Bayard]

29. How about Tammy Duckworth?

I'm thinking I'd rather have Kamala Harris as AG.

[StevieM]

32. ITA about Duckworth. (eom)

[quickesst]

31. someone other than former candidates

Kamala Harris? No no no no no!!! What is she going to do for a Joe Biden campaign? She barely reached 5% support among black voters during her run for the nomination.
I would rather he look at someone like Val Demings or Ayanna Pressley. He has plenty of time to make a choice.

[StevieM]

33. Tammy Duckworth. (eom)

[RicROC]

34. yes !I'm glad you brought Tammy's name up.

While I lean towards some woman of color for VP because they have the hunger to setting things right in this country, I like Tammy Duckworth. Besides, if Trumpf says anything about his having bone spurs, Tammy can remind them that her's were blown off in service to our country.

I also like Tammy Baldwin. She needs to get more national exposure

[StevieM]

35. Tammy Duckworth is Asian-American. (eom)

[Jose Garcia]

93. She would be an excellent choice

[Bucky]

36. Wait, what? Not a single vote for Bloomberg?

[Dem4Life1102]

37. Harris doesn't make much sense

She comes from a solid blue state and her history as a prosecutor won’t help attract progressives.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

38. Warren was my choice for Prez

I worry about Joe’s age even though Warren isn’t much younger. But if we have a 70-something Prez, we sure don’t need a 70- something Veep too. So let’s try to keep that pick under say, 60?

Call me ageist if you want, but I’m 65 and I know I would have been better suited fo a high powered job 10 years ago, as would many other older friends. I know there are some people who are still really sharp into their 70’s , but most are not.

[Dem4Life1102]

46. She would definitely help with progressives

But also comes from a blue state.

[Kaleva]

41. We progressives already support Biden

[Dem4Life1102]

47. Not in enough numbers

Don’t want a repeat of 16

[Kaleva]

83. You are talking about the fake progressives

I see no reason to make an effort to attract them.


Progressives in 2016 knew that Trump was incompetent fool and needed no outside motivation to get them to the polls and vote for Hillary. Fake progressives didn't give a shit if Trump won.

[Dem4Life1102]

84. Maybe so

But why not try to be unifying?

[Kaleva]

88. I'd rather spit in their faces. Figuratively speaking of course.

I'm not going to waste one second of my life trying to find common ground with the useless pieces of shit who call them self "progressive" yet had no problem with Trump getting elected.

[Dem4Life1102]

91. I understand your feelings

but that's not how you win elections.

[onetexan]

42. i love all the ladies listed but Kamala by far is the best fit for Joe

This will be extremely beneficial in so many ways, but to name a few:

- Selecting Kamala will be Joe's big THANK YOU to AA voters for saving his campaign. I'm being blunt & speaking my mind here folks, so don't shoot me if you disagree. Black voters saved Joe's & our butts!

- Selecting Kamala will be Joe's big THANK YOU to WOMEN voters for turning out in droves helping push the surge in votes across all states

- Kamala's breadth of experience in government, first at the state level then in the Senate, will help Joe tremendously in the work of rebuilding the government and the country in reversing the harmful policies this admin has inflicted upon us.

- Kamala's strong debate and campaigning experience will help GOTV for Joe. She's highly intelligent and capable, and inspires confidence in people, something we so desperately need restored for the American people.

[MrsCoffee]

44. Great post.

Thanks!

[Dem4Life1102]

50. Excellent first two points.

Third one not so much in that experience doesn't matter in electoral politics.

Fourth one might actually be a minus since Harris spent much of her debate time attacking Biden and will be seen by some as a hypocritical opportunist.

Two points that you missed are that Harris comes from a solid blue state and doesn't put any swing states in play. And that her record as a prosecutor might not attract progressive voters.

[onetexan]

51. i respectfully disagree, experience is always important, but esp'ly in this election

Furthermore, given Joe's age that person will need to be ready from Day 1.

Re: my 4th point, I'll just say this much: politics makes strange bedfellows

[Dem4Life1102]

54. If experience mattered

Trump wouldn't be President.

Obama would have lost to McCain

Gore would have beaten Bush

Clinton wouldn't won either

Experience doesn't matter. Never has.

[onetexan]

55. Each of those past elections had many other factors that heavily influenced the elections

so to paint a broad brush like that to me doesn't make sense.

[Dem4Life1102]

56. Nor does it make sense to claim

experience matters when there is no example that proves that is does. Just to say that it does, doesn't make it so.

[onetexan]

57. LOL i can see this is going nowhere so let's just agree to disagree

[Dem4Life1102]

63. You mean

you don't have any evidence to back up your claim.

[onetexan]

64. oh stop the BS. At this point u're just trying to egg me on. Not wasting my time. Adios.

[Dem4Life1102]

66. No I'm pointing out

that your argument has no evidence to support it.

[Ninga]

60. Sorry, but today, in this dangerous climate, all bets are off. Experience equals stability.

By the time Nov rolls around, we may be a shell of our former selves.

[Dem4Life1102]

62. Show me an example

of when experience mattered in a Presidential election please.

[Ninga]

67. Show me an election that had the exact dynamics we are experiencing now. All bets off, means

we cannot depend on history for our answers today.

[Dem4Life1102]

68. No election has the same dynamics as another

and I never claimed that. But experience has never been a factor in electoral politics so there is no evidence that it will this time. The main factors have always been ideology, demographics and geography.

[TwilightZone]

76. "Experience doesn't matter" is a ludicrous assertion.

Particularly with a 78-year-old president in the context of a pandemic.

"doesn't put any swing states in play"

False, she would be an influence nationally, both as a woman and as a person of color. Limiting one's scope to one state while ignoring the big picture doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Dem4Life1102]

81. Show an example in any election that it did.

And exactly what swing states does she put in play. If we went by national results, Clinton would now be President.

[LanternWaste]

89. You made the assertion. Your responsibility to support it with evidence.

[Dem4Life1102]

90. If experience mattered Trump wouldn't be President

McCain would have defeated Obama.
Gore would have beaten Bush II.
Clinton would have lost to Bush I.

Enough evidence for you?

And if you want to make experience an issue isn't the guy who has been President the last 4 years more experienced than someone who never has?

Now answer my questions. Show an example in any election that experience mattered. And what swing states does Harris put in play?

[spicysista]

61. Yes!!!

I agree on all points. There are some fabulous ladies to choose from. However, I believe Kamala would be the best fit for Joe. I'm also super biased since she was my first choice for president. 😉

[PunkinPi]

65. Agree with all points, plus it will be fun watching her debate Pence (if he's still on the ticket).

[onetexan]

69. that would be quite a fun debate to watch her drag him thru the mud wouldn't it?

[PunkinPi]

71. Yes it would.

I'd have my at the ready.

[honest.abe]

49. Val Demings needs to be in that list.

But I still think Kamala is the one.

[Bayard]

77. She's a first time Rep!

I wish people would stop saying this just because she's a black woman. She doesn't have enough experience to be VP.

[honest.abe]

79. That is an issue but she has a interesting background that could play well to voters.

Plus Florida.

She's not my top choice but should be considered.

[PunkinPi]

85. Some people seem to think black women are all interchangeable, and it's sad. nt

[LaMouffette]

53. I'm for Val Demings, too, but Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams would also be wonderful.

Here's why I like Val (to save time, I copied this from an earlier post I did):


I have enormous respect for both Kamala Harris and Stacey Abrams, and I believe either of them would make excellent VPs. But looking further down the road, I think Val Demings might have a slight edge over Harris and Abrams to be president after Joe Biden. I have only recently "alerted" to Demings and her potential as VP and future president, and I have just started reading up on her and watching her interviews on YouTube, but my first impressions are that, along with her many wonderful qualities and impressive background and experience, she has that crucial presidential gravitas. Watching her questioning the witnesses during the impeachment process, she reminded me a little bit of Barbara Jordan during the Nixon impeachment trials. Plus, she's a two-term Congresswoman from Florida (a state with 29 electoral votes), she is a former police chief with a sensible approach to gun control, and—fun fact—she rides a Harley!

But in the end, I would be thrilled to have Kamala or Stacey or Val for VP and then president.

[FailureToCommunicate]

70. Not just a Harley rider. Val also had the badge to go with one!

[LaMouffette]

74. Great picture!

Thank you for posting this! With Val Demings as VP for four years and then president for EIGHT years, just imagine the progress that could be made, as far as the Black Lives Matter and #MeToo movements, not to mention restoring dignity and humanity to the executive branch?

November cannot get here quickly enough!

[FailureToCommunicate]

82. Belated welcome to DU!

[LaMouffette]

86. Thank you!

This forum is the only thing keeping me from going insane at this point! We live in a red county in a red state where we actually have to be careful what we say in public places because we know we're surrounded by Trump Humpers. I had lunch at a small café with a friend last week (a fellow Democrat) and our conversation couldn't help but turn to the Mango Menace. A woman at a table nearby twisted around in her chair and gave me the stink eye! We ignored her and kept talking. Figured if we kept talking, she MIGHT get a clue that Dear Leader might not be the best president this country has ever had after all!

[Ninga]

58. VP must have legislative experience and a history of understanding the dynamics of

compromise, messaging to promote the Presidents agenda, knowing current elected officials, having time questioning in hearings, and much more.

The VP must.

[TreasonousBastard]

59. There are a few, like Harris and Klobuchar, who might well do better in...

the Senate, rather than dragging them out to make Biden's run easier.

Why interfere with a successful Senate career to run for Veep? A possibly dead-end job.

Now, Justice and economic cabinet and leadership posts just may be what the doctor ordered for the likes of Harris and Warren. They have specific talents and skills for that sort of thing. We have crises and insanity at HUD, Education, and other departments that need tender loving care.

FWIW, I think a woman for Veep is a great idea, but I don't know why Biden locked himself into it. What's done is done and I hope it works and doesn't cause him more trouble.

[Maru Kitteh]

72. Biden/Harris or Harris/Biden has been my pick from the beginning.

[Odoreida]

73. Michelle Obama n/t

[honest.abe]

75. Any discussion of Biden's VP should consider the real possibility of Nikki Haley as Trump's VP.

There has been alot speculation about it and it does makes sense from the GOP point of view. They may be desperate when they see the polling running up to the convention and they could throw a hail mary like they did with Sarah Palin in 2008.

So our VP needs to match-up well to Haley. She is very knowledgeable, has lots of experience, "young" in relative terms, has good stage appeal and is a minority.

Considering all that, I think Kamala Harris would be the best against Haley. It clearly cant be Warren who would look like her mother or even grandmother on stage. Abrams or Demings would also be good choices but Harris seems the best.

[mikelgb]

78. Val Demmings

[Shrek]

87. Kyrsten Sinema n/t

[Jose Garcia]

92. Kyrsten Sinema

[mvd]

94. Warren would be a nice choice, but Tammy Baldwin is younger

And also pretty progressive. Both could help move Biden to the left.

[Turin_C3PO]

97. Harris is pretty progressive, too.

I know she was a prosecutor but her record in the Senate is very progressive.

[mvd]

98. She's another good choice

I hope her record wouldn’t hurt her but I am sure Biden’s people would do diligence on that.